I recommend calling it plinking. You know, like Plinko from The Price is Right without the “o.” Rolls off the tongue well.
Yeah, when desora first posted the video up (before the explanation), I spent time trying to analyze what was going on. His english isn’t good, so I couldn’t get him to explain it easily (he plays on ggpo sometimes if you’re curious). After the explanation video was posted, I got a friend to help me translate it and figured it out from there. I asked gilley to help me test it on irc before I posted how it works in theory on the akuma forums. Later on gilley links me to this thread on irc and I only had to read the first 2 lines before I yelled out “why didn’t I think of that!”. I’m glad someone did though. I don’t see anything wrong with naming it after him. Even though he didn’t come up with everything, he did apply it before any of us thought about doing so.
Naming this linking method after KIRBY is fair, and everyone seems good to leave the onus on him to decide.
When it comes to naming the actual technique based on what it achieves, it is basicly using the way the system recognises priority for simultaneous inputs in order to cancel the need for double-tapping a button. It can also help achieve faster piano inputs it seems.
According to the original vid, the discoverer was called TSUJI.
The main link I want to master with Rufus is s.lk into close s.hp, would i do s.lk+s.hp in this case?
Actually talking to my friend, he reminds me this technique was already found in japan and named “Tsuji Canceling” or “Tsuji Style”. So we could use that or P-linking. Only problem I have with kirby linking is that I immediately think of smash bros. 
mox, it’s
dive kick > st.LK > st.HP ~MP xx Tornado
… and it’s REALLY easy
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kirby WAS the first person to discover this(and subsequently make a thread about it), he didnt even know about the akuma trick when he posted this… since then others have come through and stated that they had already found this…
which begs the question of why didnt they post it first??? were they to stupid to figure out how groundbreaking it is, OR were they being stingy with the info? OR are they lying???
hmmm… either way it doesnt stop the fact that kirby posted it up before anyone else did.
so he gets the credit.
the fact that this can be used for a demon has NO SIGNIFICANCE with the fact that p-link can be used to make LINKED INPUTS come out easier, in fact they are two different things which happen to share a button technique. your talking about naming this technique after something that ONE character do when it can be applied to ALL characters in a totally different application. stupidity…no?
also, kara is a stupid name. NOTHING is being canceled… its a link.
you didnt discover it, you saw it in a video, you sound butthurt that you didnt get to name it… sucks for you, if thats how your thinking.
your case and kirbys are totally different, he didnt rip this off of a jap vid… he MAY have gotten the idea from the akuma vid but he has already stated that he did not in fact know about the akuma demon. the precedence for discoverers of a certain technique,invention, etc. is to name it after the person who discovered it or let them name it themselves (within reason) also he should get credit for it, because what other reason would there be for others to bring there discoveries to the masses. if they get no recognition other than “good job”… etc. etc.
people would be stingy with there discoveries (we all love you cole, but i’m lookin at you 
no biggy) its that kind of attitude that plagues the FGC, NO ONE can find EVERYTHING themselves, Daigo didnt find everything himself, neither did valle, choi etc. WE ALL become better when someone shares with the community rather than when they keep it all to themslves… i’m not saying that people have no right to be stingy with there shit… but just that more people might be willing to come forward if they didnt think that they were going to be forgotten for being the innovator that found shit.
anyways these are 2 DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES that both make use of overlapping move inputs. if you and some other people want to name the overlapping move input phenomenon… i’m certainly not going to try and stop you.
all i’m interested in is, this ability to make links easier… i could care less what it does for akumas demon.
and the LINKING aspect of this is, what we’ve come up with a name for, its the more useful anyways.
this isnt exactly a non precedent when it comes to new discoveries… it actually is standard that he who discovers, names.
why should you be able to come in and say that it should be different???
-dime
kara means empty in japanese
regardless my names suck.
when has it been the standard for the person who invents something to name it, ever? theres a reason you dont see choi cancels and bob throws all over the place.
fffffffffffffffffff
>Dime_x
you make it sound like the akuma video has nothing to do with the linking method… however, the video actually tells you how to do everything kirby mentioned… AND it was translated a day before kirby made his post… it even states in the video that this technique applies to ALL LINKS, it doesn’t say it’s ONLY for the Raging Demon…
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all kirby did was post this info on the general forum first… even if he didn’t copy the raging demon video… wouldn’t you give credit to the guy who “discovered” it first? I’m sure Tsuji knew about this technique more then “a few days ago”…
I give kirby props for putting 2 and 2 together when we should have on irc after we figured out the demon. Theres no reason he shouldn’t get props for that. I don’t believe that he didn’t get it from the akuma technique though. I also don’t think a lot of people here fully understand it as much as they think they do. I’ve seen people here completely wrong about the akuma technique in this thread (even kirby with the needless HK and F+MP kara). So yeah name it what you want, but lets get back on topic so people get a true understanding of whats going on in both techniques.
well i cant read japanese… if this is true then of course it should be named after tsuji if he did indeed figure out that it applies to links ALSO.
p-link still makes more sense tho 
why did you not link to the translation though??? we’re in america.
-dime
I’m probably a little late to the party, but good shit man.
edit: oh naming is an issue? Eh i’ll chime in later.
Yup. It’s called plinking now BECAUSE I SAY SO. Rawr.
Yeah dime, we should indeed have an American translation for it. I think everyone wants that, but I think people were just concerned over credit also being due to the founders overseas as well.
In all honesty, isn’t this just a variation of the piano technique credited to Daigo/Chris Finney in the Domination 101 forums?
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=34755
Look at the 8th paragraph.
I ‘discovered’ this kara-kirby-whatever-link on my own by just piano hitting 2 buttons instead of 3, simply because it’s easier. I applied this to specials, and the only new thing I learned in this thread is that it applies to normal links too.
<DS893> OH WAIT
<DS893> WAIT
<DS893> 2 buttons 1 link
I think the name is official now
Actually, this is not the same as that. This technique is specific to SF4. It allows you to press the same exact key, not just extra keys, within a time frame (1 frame) that is not possible in other games. That technique daigo uses is multiple button presses at different strengths to make sure he doesn’t miss a special. It’s used in majority of fighters and the button presses happen slower than the 1 frame this technique uses.
The Valle CC? =)
Fuck what Jinrai says. My name sticks. 2B1L. Come on. Work with me guys.
now that i’ve seen this.
i’m down with plinking!
lol luv u DS:rock:
if tsuji sticks, i vote we call it T-link, tlink for jinrai.
BOOOOOM BAM WOOOOOP WOOOOOOP
WHAT?
-edit… STUCK??? GO KIRBY!!
-dime