Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale Announced

[Shadow_Ace]

Im on xbox…this destroys any chance I have of playing this competitively

and I just sold ps3 not to long ago…ugh…

[CSword123]

Surprise! It turns out Microsoft is also developing a crossover title starring its most popular characters. Here is a leaked screenshot:

Step 1: This game becomes a huge success for Sony.
Step 2: Microsoft responds with it’s own involvement in the fighting game genre.
Step 3: Xbox owners get Killer Instinct 3
Step 4: Sony will go down in history as the savior of Rare
Step 5: I go play KI3

THIS GAME MUST NOT FAIL

As for who needs to be in this game, Spike from Ape Escape comes to mind :tup:

[lordvaati]

Oh yeah, that game that no one ever played?
Yeah, what a great game. I like how almost impossible it was to actually get your hands on the complete version of the game.

Ok, then on the released games end,the closest example of the Meter system would be FOTNS(kinda).

[arekusu]

Step 1: This game becomes a huge success for Sony.
Step 2: Microsoft responds with it’s own involvement in the fighting game genre.
Step 3: Xbox owners get Killer Instinct 3
Step 4: Sony will go down in history as the savior of Rare
Step 5: I go play KI3

THIS GAME MUST NOT FAIL

As for who needs to be in this game, Spike from Ape Escape comes to mind :tup:

Very solid logic. Ill be counting down the days until ki3!

[Christiankid]

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Do you think this is a real leaked roster?

[Hawkingbird]

Step 1: This game becomes a huge success for Sony.
Step 2: Microsoft responds with it’s own involvement in the fighting game genre.
Step 3: Xbox owners get Killer Instinct 3
Step 4: Sony will go down in history as the savior of Rare
Step 5: I go play KI3

THIS GAME MUST NOT FAIL

As for who needs to be in this game, Spike from Ape Escape comes to mind :tup:

Rare has sucked since they were brought by Microsoft. I rather see the MK guys work on KI3.

[Hecatom]

Step 1: This game becomes a huge success for Sony.
Step 2: Microsoft responds with it’s own involvement in the fighting game genre.
Step 3: Xbox owners get Killer Instinct 3
Step 4: Sony will go down in history as the savior of Rare
Step 5: I go play KI3

THIS GAME MUST NOT FAIL

As for who needs to be in this game, Spike from Ape Escape comes to mind :tup:

i can assure you that they would find a way to make it suck, like that you can only play ki using the kinetic
not to mention that it would be 360 exclussive, fuck that shit

[SNAAAAKE]

can we get some hotshotsgolf bitches in here:coffee:

tony hawk and gabriel logan would be nice too. they DID help sell the ps1.

[MrSoda]

Nothing can tear me away from SFXT!!!

Try Hello Kitty Island Adventure they are both about equally stimulating and difficult.

[DarkArchville]

http://totalplaystation.com/ps3/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale/previews/10445/2/

An interesting preview which appears to be written by someone fairly well-versed in fighting games. I’ve selected the most interesting paragraphs. Here they are:

Now granted, I’m more than just a little snobby when it comes to fighting games.** But from a casual perspective, I find it too chaotic and random to be at all fun, and from a competitive standpoint, it’s a game so broken that its community had to ban features, characters and stages just to make it viable. Even then, the game’s strategic depth is oft questioned by members of the fighting game scene.** So when rumors started circulating that Sony was working on their answer to Smash Bros, I almost strained my eyes from rolling them so hard. But after spending over an hour with ***Playstation All-Stars: Battle Royale***, not only am I pleasantly surprised, I’m actually giddy with excitement over it. How could that be, considering how much I dislike Smash Bros.? The answer is simple:

Despite some obvious similarities, it’s a completely different game.

Now, limiting kills to supers only might sound radical, but it actually opens the game up to a tremendous degree. For one, the fact that getting knocked off a screen edge can’t kill you,** means that staying at the edges of the screen and controlling space with long range attacks is actually completely viable.** For instance, Killzone’s Colonel Radec is the kind of character that simply couldn’t compete in Smash due to his need to stay far away from opponents. His vast array of sniper rifle, machine gun and grenade launcher attacks are deadly at range, but up close, he’s nearly defenseless.** With such strong keep away play being introduced, it only made sense to create characters who are skilled at rushing down projectile based characters.** Sly Cooper fills that role perfectly. Instead of blocking when you hold L1 he turns invisible, allowing him to prowl the battlefield unnoticed. During another one of his moves he disguises himself as a barrel and moves around. While in this state, he is totally immune to projectiles, allowing him to close in on projectile spammers safely. Once he’s a bit closer, he can use his teleport move to instantly appear behind them, where he has access to special backstab attacks that leech AP from his target.

At the competitive level,** items had to be banned from Smash due to them adding too much of a random factor to the game and creating unearned match turning opportunities.** While talking to Paul Edwards, Battle Royale’s lead combat designer, he talked at length about how the team tried to make items **less flashy and more purposeful. **

“Where our item system differs from 'Smash’s is that we designed each of our items around a specific role within the combat system and it wasn’t just a unique thing to showcase an IP…the gravity shield is a good example where you just want to be able to set up an opportunity for a super, or get a positional advantage without having to worry about blocking, dodging or rolling. So if that gravity shield is out, and that spear of destiny is out, and you’ve already got super, you don’t need anymore AP. So you grab that gravity shield, run right into the middle of the combat ball, and just pop your super and kill everybody.”

Amazing! It sounds like they are genuinely attempting to fix everything everything that was bad about Smash Brothers when it comes to competive play. Perhaps this game might end up being accepted by the FGC after all!!

[the7k]

Okay, here’s the franchises I think have the greatest shot at showing up, arranged by likelihood. This isn’t necessarily what I want to show up (otherwise I’d have snuck Beyond Good & Evil and Psychonauts in there), just properties that either Sony has easy access to, or are just too important to the PlayStation brand for Sony to ignore.

Forgone Conclusions - I’d be hugely surprised if these properties don’t show up in some way or another.

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Jak & Daxter
Case For: Sony owned, stage already appearing in the game, very visible during PS2 era
Case Against: Not as relevant today as it was back then.

Ratchet & Clank
Case For: Sony owned, stage already appearing in the game, very visible from PS2 era to today
Case Against: Can’t think of any good argument against this franchise.

Uncharted
Case For: Sony owned, Sony’s most visible current property.
Case Against: Being regular people, it may be difficult for characters to play very uniquely. I highly doubt that they could ignore this series, though.

InFamous
Case For: Sony owned, popular property, has a set of powers that kinda demand he be in this type of game.
Case Against: None that I can think of.

Doko Demo Issho
Case For: The series that created Sony of Japan’s mascot, Toro Inoue.
Case Against: Not as relevant outside of Japan, but Toro’s many cameo appearances in games like Little Big Planet, White Knight Chronicles, Tales of Graces F and Street Fighter X Tekken have likely changed that.

Crash Bandicoot
Case For: Sony’s original mascot series.
Case Against: Currently owned by Activision - while I’m sure Crash has the highest priority, it’s possible that Activision will refuse to play ball.

Spyro
Case For: Sony’s second mascot series.
Case Against: Owned by Activision. They’ll have to play ball.

Metal Gear Solid
Case For: A series that’s entries definied the PlayStation, PS2 and PS3. Plus Kojima seems to be quite loose with where Snake shows up, having crossed over into games like Dream Mix TV, Smash Bros Brawl, Ape Escape 3, LittleBigPlanet and many other games.
Case Against: Not owned by Sony. Needs Konami/Kojima’s approval.

Final Fantasy
Case For: FF7, FFX and FFXIII have been games that defined respectively the PS1, PS2 and PS3.
Case Against: Owned by Square Enix.

Likely Candidates - Perhaps some legal mumbo jumbo would keep these properties from showing up in some big way. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them in, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t get in either.

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Team Ico Titles
Case For: Owned by Sony, very popular and critically acclaimed games.
Case Against: Team Ico may not approve of their characters appearing in a game like this.

LittleBigPlanet
Case For: Owned by Sony, stage already in the game, very popular Sony mascot.
Case Against: … How would a Sack Person fight? Slaps? Use the Pop-it Menu to summon items?

ModNation Racers
Case For: Owned by Sony, a property which Sony has pushed hard recently.
Case Against: Who cared about the built-in MNR characters? Everyone either built or downloaded their own!

Ape Escape
Case For: Sony owned, popularized the use of the Dual Shock during PS1 era.
Case Against: Lost a lot of relevance over the years.

Tomb Raider
case For: One of the games which, early on, defined the PS1. Remained very popular throughout PS1’s lifetime.
Case Against: Not as relevant, owned by Square Enix.

Silent Hill
Case For: One of the defining horror series on the PlayStation, still remains popular.
Case Against: Owned by Konami. However, if MGS shows up, SH would be much more likely.

Resident Evil
Case For: While a multi-platform title even in the beginning, it was widely known for it’s PS1 appearances.
Case Against: Owned by Capcom.

Heavenly Sword
Case For: Sony owned. Very early killer ap for PS3, helped define the system early on.
Case Against: Title has become irrelevent since.

Resistance
Case For: Sony owned, Sony’s first killer ap for the PS3.
Case Against: Would have to take some creative liberties for Hale to not play too similarly to Radec. (Chimera transformation?)

Devil May Cry
Case For: Genre-defining title that got it’s start on PS2 - and remained exclusive to Sony until DMC4.
case Against: Owned by Capcom.

Disgaea
Case For: Genre-re-defining title that started on the PS2 - and has remained mostly exclusive to Sony.
Case Against: Owned by Nippon Ichi.

Mega Man Legends
Case For: While multiplatform, MML was more popular for appearing on the PS1. Very large fanbase.
Case Against: Owned by Capcom, who seems uninterested in Mega Man in general.

[CSword123]

i can assure you that they would find a way to make it suck, like that you can only play ki using the kinetic
not to mention that it would be 360 exclussive, fuck that shit

That is indeed the worst case scenario. I was half serious making that post because I do know how Rare is these days. If they do ruin the KI series, at least do it with class. Call it Kinect Instinct or something. Killer Instinct 3 is too good of a name :nono:

[the7k]

Kinect Instinct

I’d play it.

http://totalplaystation.com/ps3/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale/previews/10445/2/

Good stuff, man - I’m also getting pretty excited for this game. Even though I had some fun with Brawl, I definitely wanted something with more meat. This looks like it may satisfy that craving.

[SynikaL]

Stop reading here. God forbid a Western studio can’t develop a VS platformer :rolleyes:

No one said they couldn’t. Somewhat ironically, I just don’t think Western studios house the cultural inclinations that make games like this seem novel to a Western audience. Aesthetically, the game is already chasing Japanese standards. I’d love to be wrong, but much of it already looks contrived. A lot of the problem is much of SONY’s IP aren’t as powerful in how they resonate. Little Big Planet is one of the few Western developed IPs that hosts a novel, light-hearted, and genuinely creative aesthetic, with characters that evoke an emotional response from the audience. Would you really put Radec from fucking Killzone in the same class?

Also, we all know about how that game controls in relation to traditional, Japanese, 2D platformers - not that the less than precise controls don’t work for that game, necessarily. But the game’s floaty, imprecision does have its plentiful detractors.

Idiots will see this as me putting Melee/Smash on a pedestal, but it’s simply me holding this new IP to the standards it was clearly inspired by. The differences between Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter are evident and a lot of them manifest themselves due to the cultural differences in how the respective developers feel a game should look and play. When it comes to the genre of fighting games, Japanese sensibilities traditionally win the battle and so the tastes of the genre’s fans go. Telling me japanese developers can make a bad game is meaningless.

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Finally, the Ignore Function works.

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I actually really want to see this game come out well. I think it’s absurd that in a world where SNK, Capcom and Arc Sys exist, such an obviously self-serving corporation like Nintendo dominates 4 player fighting games. There needs to be more competition in this space.

[Hecatom]

stupid stuff

yes, yes

[HD-Man]

This thread reminds me why I hate a majority of competetive Smash fans. Not gonna go deep into all that, but yea. I hope they never get near this game so the rest of us can enjoy it.

[Hawkingbird]

can we get some hotshotsgolf bitches in here:coffee:

They are in the background of the Jak and Daxter stage

[specs]

yes, yes

Without taking sides, I think you’re being a tad too harsh. SynikaL’s not shitting on anything, he’s relaying how he feels about the sorts of cultures that tend to make these games and which he thinks is best suited.

[MrSoda]

Without taking sides, I think you’re being a tad too harsh. SynikaL’s not shitting on anything, he’s relaying how he feels about the sorts of cultures that tend to make these games and which he thinks is best suited.

Naw Synikal does the pseudointellectual thing with fighting games (like triforce) and comes off as a douchebag (like triforce). How you can tell when someone is fluffing up their own intelligence:

1. They insult other people’s intelligence
2. They manage to say little or nothing by saying a lot
3. Appeasement is impossible to them (this is more pertinent for women, men are just stubborn as fuck)
4. They end up contradicting themselves
5. They make shit up
6. They get overripe and painfully obvious in their delivery
7. Awkward / unnatural word usage.

You can spot 4/7 from the list in this one paragraph:
“Idiots will see this as me putting Melee/Smash on a pedestal, but it’s simply me holding this new IP to the standards it was clearly inspired by. The differences between Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter are evident and a lot of them manifest themselves due to the cultural differences in how the respective developers feel a game should look and play. When it comes to the genre of fighting games, Japanese sensibilities traditionally win the battle and so the tastes of the genre’s fans go. Telling me japanese developers can make a bad game is meaningless.”

Four years observing insecure people trying to be smart at a top 10 university made me an expert on pseudointellectualism. I organize the yearly conferences and everything.

EDIT: Actually I just think Triforce is batshit insane and delusional.

[Prz]

Aesthetically, the game is already chasing Japanese standards.

I literally have no idea how you could possibly see this so. I mean, really, what the fuck?
Also, I have never played killzone but radec looks cool as fuck. Would rather play him than 70% of brawl/melee’s casts, even though I might enjoy those games more than killzone. Being “iconic” is not everything.
There’s already significant reason to see good design decisions in this. I dont see how vague praising of the gamecube controller and skepticism really merits your tone. I am not terribly interested in this game, but you really are putting smash on a pedestal in comparison.