I don’t think this is comparable to someone learning how to play a fighting game. An 8th grader is obviously on a different intelligence level than a 12th grader (in general. There are some exceptions), but playing against someone in a fighting game who is more skilled than you are can greatly benefit your game, especially if you’re being mindful while you play.
I’m reminded of a person I played in Accent Core over the weekend. He was also a Baiken player, but it was obvious that I was more skilled than he was. There were times when he flat out gave up mid match, but he still stuck around for a while and I even saw him adopting some of my set ups and combos, so he was learning while he played me. He sent me a message afterwards saying “You’re obviously the better Baiken.” I told him it wasn’t a competition to see who was better, I just hope he gained something out of playing me, which I saw that he did.
the risk is that if the opponent is so much better than you he can start doing stupid stuff to style on you and not taking you seriously. I think is beneficial expecially if he’s one who’s going to point out what you’re doing wrong, but I think you also need to play players within you reach… 'cause you also need to learn how to manage an advantaged situation, a situation that will never happen again a player that is leagues better than you (if he’s playing seriously)
If you’re having no fun, don’t play.
If you are, you’re probably learning stuff and trying to play better than normal.
As long as that’s what you’re doing, you’re going to start playing better. Avoid playing mindlessly and against any opponent you should learn something. Being demolished will teach you a lot. It won’t teach you the same kinds of things as having a lot of even matches, but it will teach you.
When you feel yourself slipping into mindlessness, step away and take a break.
People who hit, slap, tap themselves on the head/face are doing the same thing. ‘Wake up’. You should be serious(relative) about improving. You shouldn’t be serious about wins and losses in casuals. Which are what everyone plays 90% of the time. So when you find those things inverting (usually due to frustration when playing someone superior) just remember your actual goal. which should be (imo) improving.
gootreks vs MeanGuyMarc, KO when being forced to jump up into the Aegis with the crazy-never-know the parry timing at the top. It happened several more times to several other people.
He still ran around to say GG, I think.
-Quarter up kinda sat, shouldn’t have been USA cab trying to get games anyway but go watch those finals. America taught us wrong, Duck. I need some boots for winter though, whats a good one with insulation? “gore-techs” ?
I play sometimes against really strong players too and i’m trying to have fun, learning as much as i can and doing my best, simply that. Don’t worry about losing, just play with your mind.
If you’re a complete beginner who doesn’t even have a basic understanding of their character, then playing someone good will provide no benefit. You should hit training mode for a while. Other than that, it’s always better to fight players who are better than you as long as you’re observant, pick up on the things they do, and learn. Don’t let all those losses be for nothing. Try and implement some of those things into your play style and make note of your mistakes. Fighting someone good should bring out the best in you.
Thats the only way Iv gotten good with oro Is playing people that completly demolish me Sandybags, Muraltag Dude so high(my buddy dan) and late late night japanese players that put me to shame I think the biggest part in getting better is to lose and whatch what you did wrong and always try to improve bit by bit.
problem is that sometimes I play good, but others I am either too tired or do not focus that much.
good players usually focus the whole match and from the first game, adapting immediately. this is the biggest difference.
so if you are in a good mood and play more than 2-3 matches, it will benefit both.
if you’re playing just for fun, then it is pointless to play somebody at a much higher skill level because you won’t have much fun at all
if you’re playing to improve and dedicate yourself to this game, then it’s not pointless because it is the only way you will ever level up. To get better at this game you will go through long and painful periods of getting your ass handed to you until you are good enough to have even matches with top tier players. But that’s where the real fun begins. Just my 2 cents.
Actually that’s how I got better at the game because you begin to adapt and learn more high level strats. I remember as I was learning how to play Yun I use to play long sets with people who were generally above average with their characters even if the matchups would frustrate me (Urien, Akuma…) I still learned how to adapt and now it makes my matchups much more bearable.
Now I’m learning Ibuki so I have to learn all over again, but that’s part of the experience to become a more solid player.
Even if they’re acting like that (Hell, I might’ve done it to you myself sometimes since I’m drunk half the time on game nights and passing the time til certain games are set up or people are done running shit back, if so then sorry), it can still be helpful if you reflect on why you lost to them.
PS good shit in Kusoge Code last night, especially since you had like zero exp in the game. Gotta learn more patient and calculated defense to make people think about their offense more carefully, but that comes with time and exp. I’m saying this having come from the same boat you are, just like 99% of FG players have to.
Well crap, something tells me I may miss the time when I was a faceless forum name.
I last night was fun. While I got bodied, I believe I saw what caught me enough times over and over to try to start to learn how to try blocking it. Though honestly my defense is horrendous anyway, and I don’t adapt nearly as fast as I’d like to. Like you said it’s just gotta come with time. I saw Jason showup halfway through the night and adapt to crap way more quickly than I do right now.
Playing against someone way better than you totally depends on if you really want to get good at the game. At the very beginning, it’s much better to play against someone your level, and then go step by step. If you get beat and want to get better, there’s always training mode. If you don’t have it at home, just keep playing against someone your skill level. If someone’s nice enough, they’ll probably even help you out with advice.
That said, if you want to get better, then there’s nothing wrong with getting beat like 50 games in a row against someone way better. Eric Kim used to beat the shit out of me 50 games in a row, but it sure made me think “what can I do to suck less?”.
You were definitely getting better at seeing stuff, even if you didn’t notice it yourself. Also remember that even though you gotta play catch-up it’ll eventually happen, people hit plateaus themselves and overcoming those is one of the most difficult parts of becoming better. It’s not a linear, clear path for anybody.
@Aku: I think it depends on the skill-gap and characters in question. 3s Chun or Ken will (Or at least should) teach a newish player unfamiliar with the game or FGs in general how to block and respect the opponent when they’re put in a bad position, but a good Urien, Yun or Oro could just roll over them with seemingly unstoppable, weird bullshit that they can’t really be expected to adapt to or learn much of anything no matter how long they lose in that set (Unless maybe said good player also gives strong advice and possibly a little room for them to breathe). But yeah, players definitely still shouldn’t be afraid to lose a ton of matches straight in a row, as long as they’re actually thinking and putting forth some reasonable effort. Figuring out why you’re losing >>>>> Narrowly landing random shit and preventing the other guy from getting a perfect or getting a lucky match because they’re sandbagging.
‘‘You play them, you’re going to get better,’’ Warriors head coach Mark Jackson said. ‘‘They execute you to death and playing them is going to force you to get better.’’