Tips from me: In team modes, don’t yolo and run off into the enemy team without support. Japanese players always go for items so when in rome do as the romans do. Guard Master and Master Evader are the lamest(greatest) skills so no hope killing experienced players who used them without items, finishing your plate or catching them on a mistake. Framerate sucks on desert maps. Cage match should be played with 4 bars on both sides cause its just ass without good connection. Avoid 1 bar Barons and Rin sisters(TRUST ME!). TAG BATTLE IS DA BEST MODE!
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I play everyone so I have generic information on all the characters.
MagnumKnee: Anon grabs cause its part of his mixup. If he sees that you have trouble with teching grabs then he is going to abuse the shit out of it until you die. Grabs are so easy to tech in this game once you realize all you have to do don’t press buttons and wait for the beginning animation of it and press grab(For running animation grabs by Big characters: Wait til the grab starts and don’t press anything, then press grab when it does). Against players like Alda and Neon: Catch em off guard or break their guards.
Grabs are guaranteed on people who don’t know how to tech(obviously) and elemental stun/shield break.
Grabs should only be used to get out of situations(grabbing drones when low on health, someone charging a move, etc), finishing someone off after breaking their shield and they have low health.
Durga is a beast but not on Rin sister/Bayonetta level. Durga’s prolly hyped cause he has some instant shield breaking guard pressure (that you can avoid with some good blocking and rolling) and the people over hyping him got hit by stupid shit that isn’t suppose to work in the first place.
Durga’s KWLx3 -> Lean is a lag combo and doesn’t work with good connections.
In cage durga can air KWLx2 -> air KWH. That shouldn’t work either. I can’t remember if I’ve been hit by it outside of cage or not but if it works in a big mode, it’s BS anyway because I’ve tested it offline, CPU gets up after 2nd KWL.
Alright, took a break for a while, but got the itch for this game back. People on 360, add me up (or send me a message if my FL is full). I’m not sure if a recognize a name or two on here from when I used to play a bit more, but someone might have seen me, I main Baron. GT; Mr Adam0.
Durga is that good because he doesn’t have to give a shit about defensive players and he can grab kills safely with range on KWH and KWL, especially since anyone else around will get knocked out of the way if they try to steal it. Other characters like Douglas and Oinkie are really great at snagging kills, but they also put themselves in harm’s way to do it, which can be really, really bad.
You can’t just avoid it if you don’t have Master Evader because his slide is a lingering hitbox. He WILL catch you on block if you’re near him, and when he does, you’re stunned. That or you’ll be near stunned the next time he does it. And now you can twitch cancel the slide or the heavy to make this even less punishable than it is (it IS punishable, but you can’t really challenge the heavy after slide because lollagtech)
His lean light is amazing too. idk if I can stress how important having fast, far lean lights is.
Like I said before, not dying is more important than getting kills, and being the technically only “ranged” character in this game, he’s got an advantage.
Not saying you can’t just get smacked upside the head by someone else watching you, but eh. Same shit can happen to anyone.
It works at any range BUT up close. Not a lag combo. Didn’t you see Boo’s combo vid? You need to have the juggle limit push them away far enough. And actually I think it does work up close but it only restands at that point.
I have but it’s not like I remember it tit for tat. It seems you’re right.
His delay heavy is actually pretty easily punishable, you just have to treat it like a 360 attack, it’s a much smaller window but people with good dives can punish it pretty easily tbh. As long as you don’t block it anyway. Too much blockstun.
Hey TB EroticOreo/ TechnoNinja here. I didnt even realize this game had even this much of a following lol. Um from what I’ve seen you really dont need the new tech as much as you say guy. Ive faced you quite a few times and you end up using it unnecessarily and end up getting punished for it(In my experience with you, anyway.) As far as broke characters go Durga is a scumbag through and through. High priority, super armor for days, damage, range and everything else. Fei Rin Ice spears kind of annoy me but Fei Rin pales in comparison to AI Rin, but Fei Rin is easier. Bayonetta spam and glitching is cheap and easy, which is a shame because she has so many combos to work with. Annoying Players for me are def ExtremeDarkVoid(because he literally wont even try to attack me until i fight someone else) and any one with extreme lagg (ie deadcalm ninja, Harlequinn, and etc.)
As for the people you guys seem have a problem with, I don’t. Their connections are perfectly fine to me though L4ast Exile used to piss me off he has cooled down his master evading by a ton. Deadlock doesn’t lagg for me when he beats me he usually just outplays me. There’s my 2 cents on the discussions if ya want to play i’m on xbox TB EroticOreo is my Gamer Tag. Ill be back just didn’t know we had a community here until recently
Pretty much. Durga’s delayed launcher isn’t an insta-guard break. You need to have prior hits connect, but this can be kind of tough because of another very annoying thing about this game: people getting hit, but rolling out of the way instead of remaining in blockstun. There are people who are immune to blockstun and always evade out of the way (especially annoying during rampages), but thye can keep you trapped in blockstun with ALL their attacks (also very annoying during rampages).
Guy, you are right that Durga has a lot of tools, but I think you are exaggerating his abilities. He can’t do good damage without combos, allowing others to steal his prey, and he has major disadvantages in laggy environments, such as his KW shots (his most hyped tool) not connecting. The lingering hitbox also seems to be a product of lag. For example, when you delay->launcher, the animation is over and two seconds later your opponent goes flying… yeah, I don’t think that works in the training room. :-/
I know about Boo’s combo vids, what I’m talking about is KWL x3, than instantly without any animation lag/cooldown, without even me hitting the ground, I get lean kicked, as if I was in slowmo or the Durga was sped up. Or both.
@ YinYangTiger
Oh hey forgot to say this, but I love your themed AR videos. The comments you add for humor are also a nice touch.
@ EroticOreo
Damage? Durga’s biggest weakness is his damage output. I guess they needed to make it that way to offset his projectile KW. And i dunno about high priority either. No matter the character, seems I’m the one who’s always getting stunned. Either I have the best connection in the community or the worst, lol.
And I don’t mind Ai Rin. Her aKWL is good, but only if all the hits connect, which is much easier said than done. I’ve only once ever had every hit connect, and yeah, it does take of a ton of health, but mostly it’s pretty easy to dodge. Fei Rin is definitely a hell of a lot more annoying imo, and I’ve had more troubles with a couple of Rin Rins than any Ai Rin. Rin Rin should be used more, though, she’s the best Rin imo. Her projectile charged KWH us great!
Yeah, Extreme is annoying. He’s always KWH glitching with Bayonetta. As for Harlequinn, strange, he’s perfectly fine on my end, and I’m probably farther away from him than you. >.>
I don’t think you understand a lot of the frustration many have with those players. The lag is horrible, the master evading even worse. But what really gets me and many others, is the edges you guys use in not just team modes, but even free-for-alls. First of all, team deathmatches are always some combination of you, Inu, dead, Viper or Vixen, while the opposite team is made up entirely of randoms (and often not even lvl 50s). But forget team modes, you guys also play scummy in BRs. I’m not saying you specifically, but deadlock for sure. Like when Vixen is in red health right in front of him, but instead of killing her and hijacking the top spot, he decides to harass some other player who quite clearly has some connection incompatibility with deadlock. It’s pretty easy to win free-for-alls when you have your friends bothering everyone else.
Not only that, but you’re saying his connection is fine? Listen, I think you’re a good player, but it’s hard for me to take that seriously. I’m not sayin you’re lying, but I can’t help but feel you’re biased in your observations. A lot of people have complained about his lag. And the worst part is he probably knows this and intentionally abuses it by going after players that he knows will have a hard time dealing with him. I don’t get why Exile pissed you off, he’s not even that good. DL’s far more of a pain, the most notorious master evader second to only Paradonyx.
When people say he’s a laggy, master evading ass, they’re just telling it like it is. He’s laggy as hell, he abuses the shit out of ME (and he’s excuses are absolutely pathetic), and he uses asshole tactics (along with his buddies, which may or may not include you) to get an edge in this game. It’s frustrating when they come after you knowing full well that no matter how hard you play, there’s basically nothing you can do about it. Especially since he’s like always online so you will run into him and his “gang” whenever you play.
@MagnumKnee I understand your frustration in team modes I do, but you have enough people in the community to come fight our team. You have the same resources as us. As for BR honestly we fight whoever is there unless it will take too long. We really don’t do that alliance stuff that several other parties do. We do target bad players on those matches however because we (individually) can kill them fast which gives us faster score so we can win the game.Again to specify when i say we i mean as seperate platers not as a team in BR. As for scummy tactics i myself dont really use the master abilities but deadlock seems to get targeted (his words) so he does. Besides you should use whatever ability you are comfortable with, because again we all have access to it. If you say we rely on abilities me and deadlock cage match a shit ton and usually win so that’s kind of a sad excuse. I don’t even like Paradonyx that much and i can say he is great at cage match as well as other game types with or without abilities. I don’t understand the connection problem as the lowest connection with all the players we mentioned besides Harlequinn is Exile who’s only a 3 bar. Again we are all on the east coast so if you live farther away that might be an issue. I’m just listing my points no need to start any thing.
To PS3 people how’s your community and who do your players use. Im curious to see if its the same on both consoles. Are people using the cancelling a lot? And hows the lag? Just curious
Welcome to the thread, it’s more active lately, the PS3 GFAQ AR boards are also really active (Most 360 users post there as well)
I’m thinking as a community we should try and put together some sort of Anarchists’ Handbook, everything that can happen in every mode, how to play each character to a basic degree, advanced combos, twitch canceling, AA / jump canceling and all that good stuff. Known glitches, basically everything you can think of and then some.
I think having all the information organized would be a good idea but I’m not sure where to start at all, I mean I know crap about the game but I just have no idea where to start. I might write out a combo list to start and some basic meta-descriptions of how to play the characters I know how to play (some are so easy that it wouldn’t be hard to wing anyway). I know a bunch of people have written out stuff before but all of its never been organized or never all in one place, someone makes a topic here and there, or someone makes a good post here and there.
'Course this would include all the work everybody has down up until now, all the videos Boodendorf made, any Japanese videos we can find (AA canceling was actually discovered by Japanese IIRC), the twitch cancels etc
I guess I’m asking for some help with putting this together too, if anybody wants to. I feel like organizing everything would be a good idea for new players and old players alike, just have a basic understanding of everything as best we can.
I just started worked on an advanced combo list that incorporates twitch canceling and AA canceling I realize a video would probably be better suited but I don’t have the equipment or the patience even if I did it’d take forever to do everyone, it’ll probably be done eventually. I’ll need help filling in some characters:
Mathilda (does anyone even main her? There are seriously no legit mathilda players)
Rin’s (lol does anyone need help playing these? srsly)
Sasha
Bull, any bull players out there need to step up and reveal your secrets, spacing,what your super armor can take, how you make good use of your AirW, generally how the hell you play this sluggish mess of a character, he seriously has ZERO redeeming attributes. Jabs are crap, dash is crap, LKW takes forever to start up but when it does it hurts like a mother, he just generally gets interrupted by EVERYTHING.
Also, you 360 players need to get a PS3 and experience them real mean bastards for once, japan takes their shit seriously. Ain’t even funny. You guys seem to have a lot more drama than we do, most of our hate centers around one guy named neon6plz and even then its mostly just people complaining because neon mostly uses item abilities.
The lag is probably in the same boat, but most of the time the bars aren’t an accurate representation. You really have to play someone to get a feel. When its to the point where you know theres a window for you to punish something, but it doesn’t work, it’s not worth playing them.
There’s a lot of rins, douglas’, bayonettas, and zero’s.
I’m probably the best Oinkie hands down on PSN and Mathilda is just flat out not played on PS3. Max isn’t very popular either, most of the females are popular. Jack is about as popular as oinkie, I also play him pretty legit. Anyway if I’m off base anywhere someone will let me know, that’s just off the top of my head. Anyway regarding my original intent of the post, if everyone pitched in it’d be cool, if not then yeah just another idea… I’m going to try and finish that advanced combo list regardless.
Bull’s moves are slow but his actual movement is amazing, especially now that you can cancel out of his shift light and get back in quickly, + cancel divekick recovery (that part is mad hard though). The only thing he’s really got going for him. His jab sucks and it really limits him. lean extender makes him a good character. All there is to it.
Is there actually anyone using the twitch cancel tech on XBL? I’ve literally only seen one guy use it, other than myself, but I still tend to mess it up during matches, need to practice it more. Kinda sucks how dead this game seems to be on XBL.
@Adam-0 I just plain don’t feel the need to use it but the only person that really uses it is Guy. I know how to do it and can do it but prefer not to as mind games usually do the trick for me
@TunnelingEffect Yeah we probably have more drama because we have more mics and we also have the party system which makes human interaction occur more often so we clash. As for people who use certain characters on xbox, all the mathilda mains don’t really play anymore, we have soooo many rins, for sasha we have Paradonyx hands down as the best one. and guy’s probably the only consistent big bull player. As for us we have tons of rins, zeros, bayonettas, and actually alot of leo’s and jacks as of late but jack is more of a fad only a few of us actually play him. No oinkies or gargoyles besides a handful.
Hopefully we can get some people to help expand our community and help make better players out of everyone. Just us xbox people need to get over our differences (myself included)
Yeah I don’t really trust playing against that kind of connection regardless of how good they are. Lag makes anyone look good. Not that I don’t believe so because everyone plays on ps3 to begin with, but still.
I can second the notion that nobody on psn plays mathilda being the only mathilda main, but lately I use all the characters so in a sense I main everybody. PSN is hype but I wish I played xbox players more.
Seriously, I know everyone knows how good douglas is but I just fought a japanese douglas that was the biggest pain in the ass, you literally cnanot punish dougies dash attack. Now I know how it feels fighting against my douglas
God damn that crap is hard to fight, theres super armor on start up and on the end of it so even if you catch him on cooldown you can’t stun him into anything.
Maybe I should suck less, or stop fighting japanese people.
Yeah that dash attack i basically found that our real fast lol. It requires you to hit him 3 times out of super armor which is damn near impossible. Pretty strong move… douglas is fun
