-Harder to combo from j.2c now?
-My b&b doesn’t seem to work anymore:
2a2b2cd j.bbc2c V 6c 214a 6c 214a 6c 623b
The opponent can now recover after the 2nd 6c
She was top tier indeed but I hope Mags and Amy got nerfed too if that’s the case…
Pretty sure its all your imagination. Been playing with her all night and I haven’t been dropping any b&bs.
I have not noticed a single change to her since the patch.
I believe she was untouched. Phoenix doesn’t need any nerfs whatsoever imo. X-factor needs to be nerfed hard. In fact, I wouldn’t mind if Phoenix herself had her own unique X-factor stats (really low X-factor stats to compensate for Dark Phoenix)
I don’t get it. What are the numbers supposed to mean? Directions?
What he really said is…
:d:+:l:,:d:+:m:,:d:+:h:,:s:, jump, air:m:,
,:h:,:d:+:h:, land, :f:+:h:,:l:TK Trap, :f:+:h:,:l:TK Trap,:f:+:h:,:dp:
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Actually by looking at it… I’m not sure if the hit stun deterioration shouldn’t stop that combo before the last :f:+:h: hits. I’ll check it out later i guess. All my BnBs still work like clockwork. It could be your imagination but I’ll check to make sure later.
I don’t know man… I’ve been landing this specific combo at 90%+ success rate up until now. It still works but it’s WAY harder for me now.
try deleting the patch and doing it again
Just so you know that you’re not the only person who thought this, this was something I posted on a UK forum the day of the patch:
“her f+H does more hitstun scaling (or she may just have more hitstun scaling in general - basically trap loops are way tighter to hit”
but having gone back to play the pre-patch version again, I no longer believe this, so I would be interested to hear if you still think so after going back and comparing again.
Well after going back and testing the combo and all of my old ones and the full screenTK shot range…
She’s still the same. EXACTLY the same. I think you guys’ forgot your timing and panicked because after Sent, Dark Phoenix (not regular Phoenix, DARK PHOENIX) is seen by many as the most overpowered character in the game.
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It’s all in your head guys. Don’t sweat it.
I’m still waiting for an official change list from capcom… 
I feel Dark Phoenix herself is pretty sane. If anything, it’s Dark Phoenix with level 3 X Factor that goes over the edge, as some may see it.
I think she’s supposed to be OCV character. If you were to change her, would it be to just the character or to her X Factor? or to both? bring things down a lot or just a minor tweak?
I completely agree. But I didn’t really think Sentinel’s health needed to be nerfed as bad as it did either. I thought the point of having him be so big and have so much health was to be the best tank in the game. I also felt his immense size kinda traded off his immense health.
However, I do understand the cutting of Sentinel’s health. I mean the guy practically on everybody’s team and with good reason. What really were his negatives other than being big? He was still pretty mobile and could hit hard. One of the best assists in the game. Has super armor on 3 of his normals to get around a few of his problems up close with how slow his normals are. All 3 of his hypers have a use and none of them are level 3. Plasma Storm for raw damage, HSF for safe DHCs, and Hard Drive is invincible to everything in its path. He could get to anywhere on the screen pretty quickly. His dashes are fast. He can combo off all his throws. He’s even got a command throw. AND he can combo off of that.
He was a big gigantic easy mode.
I wouldn’t change a damn thing about Phoenix/Dark Phoenix. I’ve seen too many people running their mouth before she released about how she wasn’t even worth a slot because “OH! She can’t take any damage! I don’t want to waste my other two characters to feed her! Just snapback that bitch!!” blah blah blah. She’s fine as far as I’m concerned. In fact, I’d even say she’s perfect. There’s more strategy involved against her than any other character. She’s a game changer whether you use her or not. High risk, high reward. This was Sentinel’s problem. He was low risk, high reward. Why not throw him on a team?
X-factor is the thing. No… wait. X-Factor Level 3 is the thing. With Dark Phoenix Level 3 X-factor… I would say she’s better than anything we’ve ever controlled in a fighting game. She becomes stupid. I understand her not losing life with X-Factor. But being able to chip like she does with Level 3… I kinda lean towards it being unfair.
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But Jean/DPh is high risk, high reward. Everything changes when you choose her. You can’t just say “Man, I don’t know who to pick… oh I’ll just throw Phoenix in there.”. When you choose Phoenix, you’re making a committment. When you choose Sentinel, you’re saving money.
@ invincible swordsman
agreed to the FULLEST man…from the top to bottom of that post. everyone was telling me “dude its not worth picking her dont bother” …and now its “oh wow i gotta respect this character now that has no type of life…so lets say shes broken” folks dont make sense sometimes …i second that though she is PERFECT the way she is High risk/High Reward and all around dopeness if a character(comics included :P)…
Random Moment:
There needs to be a Phoenix combo and Ocv vid with the theme “my chick bad,my chick hood” instrumental lol cause our Phoenix does stuff that other teams wish they could 
so lame of me haha
invincible swords man saying are too gdlk!! yeah the only thing I thought had been nerfed was H tk shots range distance.
i thought they said she got more health? but only a bit more , i heard this somewhere
They changed it so that if the last hit she takes gives her 5 bars, she dies and doesn’t transform. I saw this happen in casuals (she was dead with 5 bars after the match) and I’m pretty sure she would have transformed pre-patch.
That’s not a change, that was the case when the game went live.
i doubt they patched anything,besides she doesn’t need it.
Yeah i’m with you guys, nerf X-factor not DP. She’s completely fine… I wouldn’t mind it if they gave her 100/120 lvl 3 x-factor stats…