With some guy crying about Instant Kills (I mean, REALLY?! You complain about this?), someone who doesn’t know how to evade a normal fucking beam from across the screen, and the assholes puckering because some people opt to do auto-combos even though they do little damage, I’m beginning to see why games have changed to be more entry-friendly.
Some of you are too fucking stupid to know any better so you gotta be coddled. Holy shit.
too harsh but I agree.
also, your avatar gives me seizures. that should be seriously forbidden…
I’ve posted here way too long. I’ve never had what most would call a “soft touch” to help communicate my thoughts in both my actual life and posting here. And while it may be callous, it needs to be said. Everything I talked about are either easy to avoid or just a way for beginners to get used to how a mechanic (a very important one) in the game works.
And my avatar is meant to cause all pain because the shit I have to read cuts down to my soul.
So, from what I’ve seen as far as the execution barrier goes, and the general way the game plays, it probably won’t be too terribly hard to play more than one character.Be interesting to see if anybody will be doing it in tournaments.
I really like this one (for the cool combos and the Anarchy Reigns music lol) :
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A lot of the combos even seem pretty practical, which is nice too.
I wanted to be this harsh, but didn’t have the heart for it. Honestly though this games zoning characters aren’t even that great. Yukiko does absolutely abysmal damage and has low health, and Elizabeth dies in two hits.
If anything people who want to play keep away characters have more of a right to complain, since just about every mechanic is built against them: evasive action, IAD, invicible full screen supers given to rush down characters, gaurd points on overheads making everyone scary up close, seriously I could go on. To play keep away in this game you seriously have to be on point with both your reactions and how you read your opponent.
Then you have characters like Chie who is just the derpiest character I have ever seen, but I’d rather learn my matchups than bitch about certain characters.
I disagree. Knowing matchups means a ton in this game, and learning the nuances of even just one matchup takes a while. New things are still being discovered for certain matchups in ST 18 years later, and I would argue that knowing a matchup will get you just as far in this game. Also, learning to play your bad matchups correctly tends to make you a better player with your character.
Learning your MUs is always a huge deal, but from initial impressions you can spend more time investing into that then having to focus on execution and intensive combos… You still need to optimize, practice set ups, learn confirms etc etc but it seems to be coming pretty quickly. I’m not saying it’s easy, and shit still pops up (Naoto -_-) but it seems pretty practical to me at this point.
Anyways, I agree with your point, but I still think it’s possible.
I love the moment when someone loses to a character, that character instantly becomes cheap or OP.
Didn’t you hear? Kanji is S+++++ tier now >.>
Not really. It’s pretty easy to tell when people jump back and do that because they have no idea what they are doing and don’t actually care to learn either. Keep-away and zoning is pretty different than spamming without awareness, which is what he’s talking about.
Even attempting to do instant kills is ridiculously scrubby. Most of the players do it when they realize they have nothing else to do and just want to random you out and hope you don’t know how to avoid it. IKs are probably the last thing people should be learning how to use in a match.
The auto-combo complaints from some people is more about many people becoming uninterested in learning the game beyond the auto combo because of how it lets scrubs do flashy looking combos. Like 95% of the people I’ve run into in ranked just mash A in every and all possible situations in a match(getting comboed, recovering, blocking, while comboing, etc) and they can’t even hit confirm after 4 A’s of the autocombo, which bothers me even more.
Oh god Emil found the thread, just turn away. Nothing to see here.
None of this should matter to you, as a player. IK aren’t the best moves to do when on the ropes, but they are akin to doing a random Ultra and hoping it hits when you have nothing else left. If you get hit by it, it’s your fault. It’s not as if the guy just unplugged your arcade stick and hit you with the move.
If a player only knows auto-combos, but wins, you need to up your game. It means you don’t know fundamentals as well as you should. And again, if they do that it’s the way they choose to play and you shouldn’t get a puckered asshole over it. If they really bother you that much, just go play people you know won’t use auto-combos. Everyone wins.
random IKs are nothing like random ultras.
The posts had nothing to do with them winning, it’s about the simple minded-ness of the players and that matches become uninteresting because people are mashing in every opportunity and not reacting to anything or changing their gameplay up.
The all out attack mashers are also annoying, I fought an Aegis that just mashed it whenever she got close, every opportunity…probably did it like 20 times in the match. The question is WHY? How can it give anyone any satisfaction to do that.
The situation you gave me with IKs are just like Ultras in a desperate situation. The other similarity they share is that they are easily avoided and you must be playing sloppy if you get hit by them. It’s like saying IKs in Guilty Gear are overpowered and that’s a very dumb stance to take.
People get satisfaction out of a lot of stupid things. If it isn’t hurting anyone, it isn’t your concern. Live and let live.
My argument isn’t about them being overpowered…
No point in continuing this, it’s way over your head.
Block and punish AoAs and R-Action A mashers. If you are losing to that you aren’t as good as you think you are.
It isn’t over anything. I just believe you want to cry for the sake of crying. You don’t offer those players any help. You just come in here and let the tears flow. If you don’t like what you’re finding online with randoms, play with people you know. That way you can pull out your fucking tampon and just play the damn game.
Even if it’s not about being “overpowered” and you just think they’re “simple minded”, then you still have a problem. If you lose to something you think is simple minded, you’re probably not playing the game too smart yourself.