Outrage in China after toddler run over, ignored (Yes i copy pasted the cnn title)

I remember that video. Watched it on worldstarhiphop. That shit was crazy!

China is so beyooond fucked up as far as human rights it’s sad.Japan is just as bad countries where even the 1st graders have a suicide rate and people are viewed as numbers and creativity is stifled.like china has a low regard for human life already but women are pretty much a second class

damn this shit is hella fucked up

this makes me a sad panda

why couldnt it have been something funny, like the chinese cracking down on tibet protestors instead???

sigh

i dont understand why someone wouldnt at least call the cops. you dont have to get involved, just let someone know that someone needs help.

either way, that dude needs to lvl up his fighting skills

In china even the good Samaritans can get sued it’s cheaper to them die than to save them.

This is a case where I can say most Westerners would not comply to the bystander effect; heck, this is just plain apathy on a disturbing scale. I mean 10 whole minutes and no aid to a defenseless and injured child! I normally am not surprised by news of inhumanity but come on, this is just disgusting.

China’s outlook is a sign that creating a dog-eat-dog mentality, which is making them an economic powerhouse, can backfire hard. They pollute their own country with impunity, slaughter their endangered animals, imprison suspects who are never seen nor heard from again, and have an almost cultured sociopathy towards each other, i.e., everything is for the “nation” but not for the people. They groom Olympians from pups who have no other purpose other than to fulfill a nationalistic dream and the competitors can’t even keep a Silver Medal. This kind of behavior doesn’t just spring about out of a vacuum, it is a clear sign of [anti]social conditioning.

The only time I see glimmers of mass communal love are in those isolated ethnic communities where tradition and family bonding is paramount; every “developed” city or town where situations like these occur seem socially bankrupt. Then again, I only have to go by what I’ve read, heard from Chinese friends/acquaintances (many of whom hate there), and watched in documentaries made from Westerners. I would love to visit if I could afford it.

Sad part is, even when reading about the past Dynasties, their world always seemed like a hell to anyone not of status (yes, the rest of the civilized world wasn’t much better.) Maybe their brand of communism is just a modern variation of that theme.*****

Note: It’s easy to misconstrue my critical observation/opinion with pro-Western feelings of moral superiority, but let’s be real here, China has problems when it comes to human rights. Not than any country can claim to be ethically above another (save the neutral nations like Sweden and Switzerland) China IMH*O seems to be a step above considering the fact that they are a developed nation, a growing economic powerhouse with nuclear weapons and a population than dwarfs multiple continents.

Wha…

This is disgusting! This is unbelievable! How could those two men drive over her like that without even trying to avoid her? How could all those pedestrians walk on by as if nothing happened? How can human beings be so callous? What is the explanation for thi…

Makes perfect sense.

(Ah, human suffering. It’s so glorious. It’s like Viagra for news outlets.)

Don’t worry. China can rebuild her. They have the technology. They can make her better than she was…even if they don’t want to spend a lot of money. Bionically better…slightly stronger…fractionally faster.

The Six Thousand Dollar Girl! Dying of blood poisoning from all the lead used in a theater near you come Spring 2012!

Uh…“if”? Get ready to lose money then.

Even as much as I hate that phrase (because it’s almost ALWAYS misused, though it’s perhaps ironically correct from this thread’s point of view), it’s too bad I’m pretty sure not every state has that or that isn’t just a federal level thing. Oh well…

Seriously. As much as I don’t like China, the amount of moral grandstanding in this thread already is almost as bad as this all too common type of incident, especially when similar things have happened in America and other places and will continue to happen.

I think I actually take more issue with those people who basically defrauded the “Good Samaritans” into helping them and then sued the hell out of them than I am with most of the people who left her there. Also, have to wonder why people seem more pissed off the bystanders who had incentive not to get involved (because it was entirely possible her parents would/could sue them, especially like literally hundreds of precedents) than the damn hit-and-run driver. Also, why I don’t see anyone wondering where her parents were for those entire 10 minutes? Did she honestly get that far away from them?

Then again, I guess faux moral outrage has its priorities.

Doesn’t sound very polite if you ask me.

Sheesh, some of you acting like this sort of thing only happens in China.

Back in college, in front of my dorm, a girl was pinned under the wheels of a car. Did the dozens of students walking past help her? Nope. Instead, a small group of them gathered around the car and DEBATED on whether or not it was safe to move the car while others just gawked or ignored the situation entirely.
By the time the ambulance arrived, the girl was dead.

Call a me try-hard pansy, but if I was there, I would like to think I would have enough common decency to move the car off the girl. If she tried to sue me, I’d finish the job the car started.

Why do things like this happen? When did it become so hard to at least phone the police, or care for someone for a minute? You can remain anonymous too if you want! Sometimes I just can’t believe what goes on these days…

I had a co-worker pass after being hit by two cars…he was a full grown 5’11 260 pound adult…he had asthma though…miracle she survived

I can also see them making a movie out of this…she grows up…trains…and hunts down the triad members who struck her when she was a toddler

Call it…Mirror’s Edge the movie

It’s disgusting but the only thing that is even worse is that a lot of people in America would do the same thing in said situation. Hell, due to all their crazy racist and sexist and just plain crazy behavior, they’d probably do the same thing regardless if there was consequences or not. At least these Chinese people were rational in their inhumanity.

(Damn it. Manually multi-quoting things is so slow…)

Devil’s Advocate mode, activate!

realizes he’s already in that mode

Well, shit. No wonder I couldn’t DHC into.

Meh. Then you’re not as jaded as you think. I can’t say that I agree that most Westerners wouldn’t act the same here. Maybe not as many as usual due to the age of the victim, which I’m sure is what you’re getting. However, that’s arguably just as bad as if age was the only reason they helped someone that injured and defenseless. Ultimately, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if more often that not she still got ignored, especially if she was a minority of whatever theoretical Western nation we’re using here (and I’m pretty sure Chinese are minorities outside of China and Hong Kong).

Um, outside of the Olympian thing and the people disappearing into prison never to be head from again (oh wait, Guantanamo Bay–never mind), this is different from other countries, like America, how exactly? Are we comparing levels of severity here? Because China sure as hell isn’t the only sinner in any of these categories.

(Also, seriously, Olympians is the thing you end on when it comes to China’s horrible treatment of people? Uh, okay. That is a prime example of jaywalking coming up after arson and murder.)

Makes sense. I’m pretty sure those isolated ethnic communities would fuck you over in a heartbeat if you’re a complete outsider, though.

It’s just human nature.

Not sure why it’s especially sad if you admit every other “civilization” does and has done it. So, yeah, why wouldn’t their “communism” just be like that anyway, especially when it really isn’t even communism but capitalism?

It’s not really misconstruing if you’re acting like China is some spectacularly bad and unique offender (at least compared to everyone) while at the same time admitting that pretty much every “civilized” country has at least shades of this. You can’t have it both ways and have an opening paragraph like that, even if China has had repeated problems with “human rights” and many think it’s the worst offender of “civilized” countries–as horrible as it is, I doubt that it is the worst unfortunately, especially depending on how wide one casts their net.

So you’ll have to understand if I “misconstrued” this.

Sound about right.

As a question of morbid curiosity, I have to ask: How did she get pinned under the car in the first place?

Must…resist…urge…to…rant…

For the record, I’m not saying that people shouldn’t “do” more, they should; the article doesn’t say that police or ambulances were never called at all, though. I just believe that people are going to fuck up regardless, so it’s best trying to not get into those situations one way or the other.

However, I have seriously never understand people why say this and believe themselves when their uttering this type of inane phrase side of some delusions of grandeur for “the good ole’ days”.

Do you honestly think things like this didn’t happen before “these days”? Even knowing how loathsome humanity is? Really?

Sigh. It’s rather easy to realize, if one just actually thinks about it for a mere moment, that like this only seem like they didn’t happen as much before is because, simply put, they didn’t. Tautology aside, for the most part, that isn’t because humanity magically became less kind. It’s because there are more people around this rock and it’s far easier to report things as well as learn of them. I suppose, too, there is also the illusion that we have more power to get help than we actually do; not that it isn’t easier to get help with cellphones or social media, just that it’s not going to make emergency assistance appear instantaneously or work even at all, especially if multiple people blow the lines/network by trying to report the same damn crime or just calling all at once.

So, yeah. “These days”? Really?

Just as I am done reading this thread I turn on the local news and watch an interview with a man on his way to work late last night that saved some random person trapped inside a burning car on the side of the road. The person was unconscious, so he risked his life to save him. These fools can’t even pick up one child in the middle of the street. hmmmm

^ @Damnd(Don’t feel like quoting that long ass post) Yao Ming was (forcibly) worked basically into retirement, having to play all year with no rest between the CBA and NBA, all for the state of China(they forced him to play)… Yao Ming was essentially bred to become a basketball player, as he was born to two basketball players and physically examined by doctors at a young age to play. Well if you wanted one more working example of Chinese (government) cruelty. There are probably many other stories like I don’t blame him one bit for making sure his child was a U.S citizen. Hell, if I was from China I wouldn’t be mad at him. The state determines everything from birth until death and they are socially conditioned to do everything for the state, and there is no such thing as disobedience to the state unless you want to be thrown away in prison for the rest of your life.

what can you say.

Eh, regarding my post, I didn’t actually mean “these days” as in it never happened before. I meant it as in why things like this are seemingly so common. I guess you could thank the media for reporting all these incidents.

(Walk walk walk.)

Man, I feel dirty just for “defending” China–this is different from excusing it–but I figured someone has to, if only for the lulz.

Hunh. I wasn’t aware of this, not having never really followed sports.

It’s not remotely surprising because, outside of it being so explicitly state-sponsored and prison being so implicit for non-compliance, it really isn’t that atypical to how other a lot of athletes grow up and are ultimately treated. China sure as hell isn’t the only country to work the shit out of its Olympians/athletes or treat them relatively poorly. And, in a really morbid way, at least they’re honest about doing it for the sake of the nation instead of the individuals competing (like pretty much every other country does considering what a pissing contest such a thing naturally becomes), even if they do it in completely horrible ways (like a lot of other countries).

It was still a horribly odd and relatively unimportant thing for white shadow to end that particular paragraph on, IMO, especially considering all the other human rights abuses that China has.

“This will happen again, so let’s me up next outrage thread and talk about for a day or two before it drops off the first page and dies forever even though there’s a ‘bad news’ thread around here somewhere. GGPO.”

Well, maybe not exactly that, but it seems apt.

Ah. I see.

Well, yeah, the media can be “thanked” for all the reports of “bad” news they give over good news. I don’t want to say they over-report necessarily since it does indeed happen quite a bit, but they tend to focus on bad news to the exclusion of anything of else at times.

Gotta think of ratings, especially with 24-hour news channels. (Sadly, Network is still really relevant.)

Apparently she or someone else forgot to engage the emergency brake and it just rolled over her as she walked behind it.
Final Destination moment.