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That’s why it’s better to exchange consumables. The evidence goes up in smoke

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Always with the jokes this guy…

I think I’ll register as a charity cause people around here just keep giving me money

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I want to play some AE. Someone host.

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show up at gonq gathers scrub

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Really looking forward to this tournament coming up!

I think the trick to a bigger FGC is to have more people playing multiple games.

But I also think that the transition from random guy who thinks he likes fighting games to fighing phenom is also important. I was a scrub at Tekken once too, just like all you guys once sucked at Mahvel or SSF4AE once. If some random guy enters a tournament, gets deuced, then never shows up ever again, we failed.

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Yeah, I agree. And I also think that the more you expose different people to different by having a bunch available for people to see and try or take interest in or whatever the case may be. That being said, there ARE a lot of fighting games these days, and I’ve always wondered if Ottawa ever had a Soul Calibur scene.

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Can anyone bring the AE PC mod this thursday that updates the game to the most recent location test?

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Agreed, all y’all should play Anime games :slight_smile:

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I can try. I’ll let you guys know if I get it running.

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I don’t know sounds like I’m gettin’ paid again.

Like anything else it is you the participant’s job to take the initiative of joining a community or not. The scrub shows up because they have an interest in the activity, if the other people partaking in that activity aren’t to their liking then they’re able to go home and play by themselves or with friends. If you’re here in the community it’s cause you have a COMPETITIVE DRIVE to improve and beat other people; you want to be able to look at that next player and say you’re better than them or say that it makes you mad that they’re better than you. If you don’t feel that way then you’re what I refer to as a filthy casual and I won’t think twice about ignoring you or feel bad about not sitting down and giving you tips.

As for playing multiple games, most people barely manage competency in one game so to ask them to play multiple and play at any sort of respectable level is a bit much. Numbers are the key but playing weeaboo games won’t make for a stronger scene imo

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Playing more than one game is on the person, and sometimes people do learn better by playing more games. Like, I’ve learned more about how to approach things since playing Tekken and giving DOA5U and UMVC3 occasional shots, than I did just playing Blazblue and semi-AE. There’s obviously something to be said for having the drive to improve, and there’s merit in saying people should be determined, but there’s also treating new people with respect when they show up.

By showing up, that often shows some kind of drive to improve in and of itself, and there’s nothing really wrong with shaking their hand after and saying “good games”, and giving them a couple of tips if they ask for them. Like, I’m not supporting babying people who won’t stick around because they lost to try and force them to stay, I’m just saying that I don’t really see a need to try and run them down if you beat them.

I mean, ideally we’d want people who weren’t sure on how to get better to think that by coming to things like the Gonq events and tournaments and stuff, they have the means and tools to improve their game there if they wish to use them. I don’t really think being visibly angry or having a salty rant about a loss is really a more beneficial way of showing you care about improving than say, talking to people about mistakes you might have made, or re-watching your matches to see and try to improve on bad habits you may have are. I think something can be said for sort of silent or turning to analyzing things instead of being frustrated over them.

And well, the game you play doesn’t have as much of an impact as how you approach it. There’s no beneficial reason to be randomly bashing Air-Dashers as ‘lesser games’ or things that don’t have/won’t help the scene get stronger, as well, obviously they’re not, and if even a few people show up to play them and how interest and try to get better and get more people involved, then that in and of itself helps make for a stronger scene.

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Unless you count +R and want to level up with players who don’t get exposed by Toronto. /profoundcockiness

Seriously though, I get what you’re saying and you’re right, depending which game we’re talking about. Someone playing a weeaboo poverty game, or any small game in general, is only going to have something to contribute to the Ottawa scene as a whole if that someone is finding a way to work themselves up to higher-level fighting game play with it.

I’ve screwed around with playing multiple games, and I’d argue that the transferable skills that you develop juggling games are only really worth it on three levels: 1) execution, 2) strategy, and 3) meta-learning. The thing about execution and strategy is that they’ll still only get you so far when you switch games. They only really become difference-makers with games that relate and share something in common. There are, however, fighting games out there that will never directly benefit from your years of practising crisp wavedashing or understanding when to pop burst.

What you really play a second game for is to capitalize on any potential enthusiasm and inspiration you have locked away, IF that’s what it’s going to take to motivate you to develop further than the last game you played. If the key to pushing yourself to train harder and drop time/money on actually travelling comes from playing that second game, go all into it. You’ll learn about how you learn and how you overcome hurdles in the process, which are the real universally transferable skills you want to develop as soon as possible in fighting games, imo. The more players that understand this, the more upper-end potential a local scene will have at its fingertips.

The thing is that you have to have enough motivation to deliver yourself to a high-level playing-field, and, the smaller the game’s scene, the further from home you’ll likely have to travel, the more effort you’ll have to put in alone, etc… etc…

Most people are simply better off focusing on one game, and maintaining their motivation-level via their own willpower. If the game comes with regular exposure to a community that’s good at motivating them—maybe through heated rivalries (the old-school American way), or maybe by pressure to give their peers the most “real” contribution possible (the over-idealized Japanese way)—even better. If the game comes with seven-figure prize pools and world-wide recognition… uh, wait, why aren’t you playing MOBA’s right now?

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Mario Party MM me, $5

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Gonq College Thursday Meetups: Breathe in my Virulence Edition

Guh. I feel like shit. Everyone get to Gonq tomorrow.

e206b, Student Commons. 2nd Floor, above the Starbucks.

Bring your controllers, bring extra stations if you want.

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A lot of the FGC-related arguments seem to boil down to two main camps: 1) work as a team, support one-another and grow the community as a whole, 2) grow as an individual, but shit on others who are less skilled/knowledgeable/experienced/driven, dog eat dog. It’s hard to establish a solid camp in Ottawa because both sides always compete for dominance over the community. Its like Skyrim. James is Jarl Ullfrick; He wants us to be free from organised rules, but he wants to be king of the free world.

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What time can we show up to Algonquin tonight? 5pm? Is there a venue fee?

Started playing AE again, will probably drop by.

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We start at 5pm.

You have two options for a venue fee. Pay nothing and be eternally free OR have a one dollar money match with James.

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Hype

But I won’t be there tonight :frowning:

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Sure I’ll have a $1 MM with James next time I see him.

I should be there very shortly after 5pm. Leaving work at 430 and my bus stops right outside the commons building.

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Anyone down for a Salty MM setup at gong tonight