Other Publishers and General Comic Book Discussion Thread

You are going to have to read one of the FrontLine comics. I think that it was frontline 9 or 10.

Well it had something to do with that someone took control of Iron Man and used him as a pawn. I think it was in the execute program arc.

I see what you are saying in a way. But still they way how marvel is doing it is still not needed. If that is the case they mind as well do the initiative for all of the marvel comics. To honest you sound like the marketing rep for marvel :lol:

Justice League movie is in the early works…

check that link again…

the ending of civil war 7 was crap in my opinion. I mean it is obvious that the anti registration couldn’t win for the purposes of the story, but cap just giving up like that especially since it wasn’t even his idea to transport everyone to the middle of new york. Did black panther betray cap and give cloak the wrong coordinates to give to dagger? I thought black panther was against registration? I am really looking forward to the future issues of black panther so I can find out if the hand shake with pym was a front or not. World War Hulk is going to be the bomb, although I was kind of hoping to get a look at how he would rule.

Eh, I fell out with Civil War around issue 4.

Although I hear The American Way mini does what Civil War was supposed to do with more class.

Is civil war the one that started in Nov 2006 where groups of superheros join certain figure heads OR is that Marvel Illuminati

Haha, thanks. I’ve edited it with an appropriate reason.

Having tons of fun at the NY Comic Con, I’ll post up lots of info and stuff later on a seperate thread, prolly tomorrow.

The biggest reveal I heard today was that Marvel is going to do a New Avengers (Cap, Iron Man, Spidey Wolvie squad) crossover with Transformers!!! Takes place in Latveria so you just know Doom’s gonna stop by!!!

Finally found all of the Conan the Barbarian comics that invlolved Shuma-Gorath at the show, only payed 10 bucks for 4 issues! Now I have all of Shuma-Gorath’s comic book appearances, hooray!

Zeph - Robotech Shadow Chronicles is out, they premiered it at the show but I couldn’t wait and bought a copy. It freaking owns! :rock:

Man lol

you know everyone is gonna go get into their new groove, then hulk is going to come back home and kill everyone then Uatu is gonna come out and be like “wtfbbqsauce no.” and ret-con it back to pre House of M days.

Thats just how marvel rolls =P

Civil War started earlier in the year, where Iron Man and Cap square off on who revealing IDs that the government probably already knows. And a giant black guy got killed by a god-clone-cyborg.

I am thinking you might be thinking of Illuminati which is a mini series that started around that time based around a couple of Marvel’s figure heads. Only two issues have come out yet.

Finally read my copy of Amazing Spider-Man Annual #21. For those not in the know, this is the issue were Peter and MJ tie the knot. It started off slow at first but it turned out to be a good read. Both Peter and MJ were having doubts and Peter was constantly reminded that he and MJ come from different worlds. The actual wedding ceremony was very nice. Pete and MJ got married on the steps oc City Hall and there was a beautiful one page spread of the two in the middle, Spidey in his black costume in the background and all of Peter/MJ’s family and friends. Oh and the cover to the book was done by Romita Sr., one of my fav artists.

Let me see if I’ve got this straight, the 6 issue mini-series, The Man of Steel is the official origin of Superman? From what I’ve read on wiki, it sounds like an awesome read. I’ll have to have my comic shop order it for me. Does this mean all the Superman stories from 1938-1986 were retconned out of existence?

And Batman: Year One is now the official origin story of Batman? Another book my comic shop will have to order for me. Like Superman, does this mean the Batman stories from Detective Comics #27 up to Year One have been retconned? The DC world really confuses me sometimes.

Flipped through a TPB of Kingdom Come a few weeks ago. Book looks dope. It wasn’t the hardback but it still looked dope. Looks like the story takes place in what is mostly Earth-2 setting.

If you havnt checked out Image Comic’s Drain by now, then I strongly suggest you do.

It has sex, nude woman, nude woman doing each other, blood, heads getting cut off, vampires, and nude woman.

So, I’m reading the latest issue of Grant Morrison’s Batman run. So far, it reads like a book and the art is crap. Alright format, I guess. But, I want art with my story. If I wanted to read a book, I’d go to the library.

From my understanding, Man of Steel was the new origin for post-crisis Superman written by John Byrne. It is now however no longer the official origin, as Superman: Birthright has taken its place. This (I believe) was done in order to align the Superman origin more closely with that of the WB show Smallville (ie Superman and Lex growing up as pals or whatnot) and is now the origin alluded to in current Superman comics.

DC History is funny and pretty tricky in places, hence the Multiverse and events like Crisis on Infinite Earths. Batman Year One became the official original, but that doesnt mean it changed those early adventures, just the catalyst. The original Superman, Wonder Woman, etc are distinctly different people/characters than the guys with the same names operating now, but they are still part of “existence” (or will be when the multiverse comes out)

Sano - now we can start petitioning for an Essential Shuma Gorath tpb

I picked up Wolverine vol. 1 and vol. 2 (the Rucka versions) from ebay for a song, now I just have to track down vol. 3.

Also started reading the Ion tpb. Art is really cool, story a bit slow right now. I really need to pick up the old winick GL tpb’s. I collected the series from issues 45-65 or so (until a few issues after his first(?) break up with donna troy) so I really missed a lot.

Oh, geez. Transformers/New Avengers? How the heck could that possibly be good? Who’s writing it? This comic has got to be the reason why Al Gore invented the Internet, so everyone could download it and save some cash.

Oh yeah, I heard Shadow Chronicles is out. I watched some documentaries of it on youtube. It looks really… WildStormish. The character designs look like the comic books and the animation didn’t blow me away. BUT- it’s got Mark Hamill. I guess I’d have to see it myself before I can make a judgment. I don’t know how I feel about this new continuity they’ve drummed up. Maybe I am old-fashioned, but I always liked the Robotech novels more than the actual show.

The Man Of Steel isn’t the official origin anymore. I believe Superman: Birthright, by Mark Waid and Leinil Francis Yu (excellent artist) is the new “official” origin. (But who really keeps track, right?)

I guess John Byrne has his fans, but I think he’s one of the most overrated creators of all time. And he’s a jackass. His forum is hilarious because of how egotistical and out of touch with reality he is. I remember this one time he said Watchmen was a piece of shit comic. His reason? Because he didn’t like it. Then one guy on his forum defended Watchmen, and suddenly a legion of Byrne Disciples flamed the guy who actually liked Alan Moore’s writing.

I would never recommend a John Byrne comic to anyone. In fact, I would persuade you not to buy them. Unless it’s '80s Claremont/Byrne Uncanny X-Men junk, it probably ain’t worth reading. Even then, it’s questionable unless you have a lot of free time.

Year One is Batman’s “official” origin, but I don’t think that means everything before it was retconned. Due to the Crisis On Infinite Earths (wikipedia that shit down), the comics creators basically picked and chose which stories and past elements they wanted to keep. But even stories after the Crisis have been retconned, or at least ignored. For example, there was a Batman: Year Two in which Batman confronted the his parents’ murderer, Joe Chill. (This was inspired by/based on some old school '40s Batman comics.) I don’t know if that’s still part of the continuity. Can’t remember the last time that was referenced in the comics. Guess I don’t really care, either. Year Two sucked hardcore.

What I find stupid is that DC has continually found reasons to make the issue of continuity central to their plots. I don’t like any of the Crisis comics. I suppose when the stakes are “THE VERY FABRIC OF REALITY ITSELF!” I just can’t find myself caring.

I find it’s best not to really think about continuity. If things fit together neatly, then fine. But it’s absurd to expect that a character that has been published several times a month every month for 70+ years will have supertight continuity. Last week, I thought about how Batman could have aged only 5 years in the same span of time that Dick Grayson aged 15 years, and the entire universe exploded, which created the alternate timeline in which we now exist and can have this conversation about the nature of reality.

Aw, Deathy, don’t hate on prose. There’s some art in that comic. Next you’ll be telling me that you want story with your porn.

I don’t have too much of John Van Fleet’s work outside of his Matrix anthology stuff, but I like it. Haven’t read the latest Batman, but at least it’s something different. At least it’s something that’ll take more than 6 minutes to read. I must respect DC for having the balls to release a Batman illustrated short story disguised as a comic.


I finally got around to reading Civil War #7. I like it. I found it a satisfying conclusion to the story. I wouldn’t have minded if McNiven spent another 100 pages showing the final battle, but I guess if he did that, it’d be Civil War: One Year Later or something.

I guess one big criticism is the characters acting out of character, but I think that in the context of the story, their actions were believable enough. It could have been written another way and it probably still could have been believable, so I sort of feel like readers just prefer for stories to end the way they want them to end.

in the latest issue of “The Flash” Bart Allen got lucky with some hot chick.

there’s an extreme issue of morality with this though:

while physically Bart is 21, his mental age is only about 15, and his ACTUAL age is around 4.

he must think he’s the luckiest guy on earth.

I just finished reading the end of Civil War and I found the ending to be really sub-par. Does anyone collect statues from your comic stores as well ?

Yeah, I’m glad for something that will take me some time to read(So far I read Chapter 1, it wasn’t that bad). I’m not gonna rush it. I’ll take my time with this one.

And yes, I want story with my porn. There have been a few that have had some plot to them. Not much, but it was there. I just hope that this won’t be the entire story-arc. Come on Grant, give us something to rave about.

I’m still a week behind with my books. So, if my posts look dated, then fuck you because I didn’t have the time to read for a week due to the flu.

Zeph - Transformers/New Avengers is being written by someone named Willis, he works for IDW who holds the Transformers license. I’ll talk about it more on the NY comic con thread so I can organize all of my thoughts on the show and stuff and other reveals I heard, but it’s three days of stuff I’m trying to remember…

P. Gorath - Yeah, a Shuma-Gorath TPB would of saved me a lot of trouble…

So, I finished reading the prose Batman issue. It was actually good. I felt hooked on every word. I’m a bit saddened that it was only one fucking issue for the Joker. Perhaps Grant is setting up for something bigger? Who knows? I take back what I said to Zephy. Apologies to insect life(not only a song, but a great apology).

And you motherfuckers better start reading The Spirit. That’s the finest book DC has right now. I also read Brave and the Bold #1 and it was pretty entertaining. Next issue will have Green Lantern teaming up with Supergirl. I feel that she’s being overused a bit too much. But, I’ll still read it.

And as for the last few issues of 52. No comment. If it doesn’t feature Lex, it’s lackluster for some reason.