Hey, thanks. If I ever actually care, I’ll check them out. Then I can be part of this “educated posters” group you created and put yourself with.
Ah damn.
Why is the crucades an example of Christianity evolving from an “evil religion” to a much more docile one at this present time?
You niggaz need to read up. The crusades is considered to be the time of Christianity’s CORRUPTION, not it’s foundation. Christianity started off in early AD in PALESTINE, that’s where it originates and thats where it was founded. There was no violence ever committed by the christians during the early AD. Infact, it was only martyrdom and persecutions during the start. During the time of the crusades, Christianity became what it was due to the authority in charge over the people. Only the high authority could own a bible and where also the only ones given the privileged to be capable of reading it. Therefore, they posed themselves as “closer to God” due to the position (priesthood) they where at and snipped out and misquoted verses and labeled it as instructions, when they where not.
The bible in general isn’t a book about how man should live, but it also has narrations of certain events and some of those events narrated where evil events and acts. An example of idiots taking narrations and saying “the bible preaches this” is the story of Lot where he has sex with his daughters. Ignoramuses would go out saying “look the bible is evil because it’s promoting incest” when in reality, it’s not, it was just narrating how fucked up Sodom and Gamora was where you had random dudes sticking it to each other, and family incest orgies.
I do think that this could be the same reason for the so-called “violence of Islam”, i don’t think Islam is an evil religion, infact i won’t argue with a muslim if he says it preaches peace. It’s not actually the book, or the religion, but probably actually the long heritage-culture (i can’t even give a right word for this) of the people in the middle east who where nomadic-like people during the early times. Therefore their interpretation is also mixed with that nomadic-mentality that was influenced within their ethnic background. <- that’s just a theory of mine concerning the Muslim stereotype. I don’t think Islam is a religion of violence, it’s just allot of bad representations that caused the sterotype.
Nah son, we still have the problem of your IQ being in the negatives…
OH I CANT RESIST
forgot lot fucking his daughters, lets talk about all the shit that IS condoned in the bible by YHWH?
-how bout god ordering the all the genocide of the people in canaan, including the innocent children?
-how bout god killing thousands of people in israel, including the innocent children, to punish DAVID for taking a census
-how bout god killing korah’s entire family, including the innocent children, because korah rebelled against moses?
-how bout god killing achan’s entire family, including the innocent children, because achan stole from jericho?
-how bout god killing all of egypt’s firstborn, including the innocent children, because he hardened pharaoh’s heart just so he could show off his plagues?
-how bout god allowing Jephthah to sacrifice his daughter to him and not intervening (like he did with abraham sacrificing isaac)?
-how bout god ordering she bears to maul these kids to death who made fun of elijah?
-how bout god killing david and bathsheba’s INNOCENT baby boy, to punish him for sleeping with bathshebah?
etc
do i see a pattern here? JEW GOD IS A BLOOD GOD THAT ENJOYS KILLING BABIES, as punishment for OTHER people’s crimes. not surprising since everyone’s going to burn in hell because a bitch convinced a dumbass to eat an apple. why am I getting roasted for that? lame.
i know i missed a few baby killing stories, its been a while since i read the bible, but i think that’s enough examples for now.
and why are you such a stalwart christian warrior when half your posts are about wanting to fuck x, y, z girl or other un christian like shit? i think i’ve seen you post in the porn thread as well.
Sums me up for the most part. Though out of the evil three, Islam is the worst by far, no contest. Then Christians, then Jews.
As an atheist, why should I suffer for your problems, it’s not my issue. Yet even by your own faith, I am doombed to purgatory, not hell. I fought for your legions, I knelt to you, so how am I the devil?
I don’t see this hostility from non Abrahamic religions, because it’s just not there. You are judged not by what you believe, but by what you do.
A buddhist forgives you because you repent or had to do what you did, and Abrahimic religion forgives you when you convert.
Wheres the Osama Bin Laden thread? I thought I saw it here a minute ago.
What about the time when god told Saul to go and slay the Amorites, leaving nothing alive. He was specifically told to slay even the women and children, right down to very livestock.
What could possibly be the justification for this considering that they were not at a time of war, and their commandments strictly forbade killing? Why couldn’t god smite the Amorites without bloodying the hands of Israelite men and forcing them to murder babies and unarmed women?
Why did god give me a logical brain that allows me to judge his own irrational and contradictory actions?
Because Eve and Adam ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, giving us the capacity to realize what an asshole their lord god was. And thus we are damned to hell. Which to the Jews meant out of the presence of god i.e. one less supreme asshole le to deal with, to Muslims meant a denial of a few dozen virgins i.e. dozens less starfish, and to the Christians meant fire and brimstone amidst drunkards and whores i.e. barbecues, booze, and loose women - or FUN, by any other name… which is why some Christian sects now preach that we’ll only be in hell for a finite time,and then god, in his infinite mercy will destroy our immortal souls.
All of these in contrast to an eternity of sucking up to god’s arsehole, and suffering the company of the most devoutly religiously minded Jews, Muslims, or Christians.
It ready does make oblivion sound the must appealing alternative.
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Didnt Israel make peace with those guys first? Then Shion decided to go war. All the Israelites wanted to do is pass through their land. Besides, have anyone ever studied what were the beliefs of those who were opposed to Israel?
Nigga fish, you don’t read posts at all? As i said to you before, don’t get your influence concerning religion from amateur anti-theist sites, and actually read the entire book to understand the situations.
Did you read the entire situation? : In 1 Samuel 15:2-3, God commanded Saul and the Israelites, ?This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will PUNISH the Amalekites (not the entire canniest) FOR WHAT THEY DID TO ISRAEL.
So what did the Amalekites do in order to get that kind of retaliation? Do even know who the fuck the amalekites where? The Amorites? and ?Amalekites? where completely brutal warlike mountaineers, from the women to the children. they were even represented in egyptian monuments as such. If even read the book, prior to God’s wrath, the Israelites where getting their asses kicked all over the place repeatedly by the Amalekites. And according to historians, tribes such as Amalekites did perform cruel genocide to women and children. You make it sound as if God just ordered it because he didn’t like em. He ordered it because the Amalekites did the same thing to the israelites and other nations repeatedly before.
oh white shadow: it’s not being logical. It’s just ignorance of who the Amalekites where.
Why don’t you get a bible and read 1st Chronicles, there was no innocent children written in that story, what the hell are you tlaking about, and nobody died. Next, if you read the 1st chronicles at all, this was David’s doing not God’s; in 1st chornicles, it shows that David didn’t trust God completely and went against what God told him to do: to count. So God gave david choices, and David chose God to cast out pestilence on Israel instead. God gave in to what David requested so that david would experience the lesson.
- Do i really need to go through the rest after this? You even put the bears one, where that verse never said they where kids nor where they killed; and the pharoah one which i have seen quoted in anti-theists sites numerous times.
"Oh, ya… God killed the first born of israel. That’s evil, what a blood god… eventhough those egyptians abused and destroyed the Israelites (regardless of what age) as life slaves for hundreds of years; and where also given 9 chances to let them go free.
Come on fish, you try to make yourself look like an elietest way too much. If you want to have an actual intellectual point, stop copy pasting random shit from anti-theists sites and do actual research. All you needed to do was read the entire event to understand the situation and reason and to also see how those “so-called evil verses” are full of shit.
Oh, and I don’t preach, i clearly set things straight on how the books actually say it. You owe me a hoe also.
If it walks like a duck, quacks, well… The one gods are the worst religions, and Islam is the worst of the one gods, by a large margin.
And thats what makes him so awesome. Nigga needs tee-shirts at the Hot Topic so all the Goth kids can be cool too.
The Amorites worshiped false gods with the main one being Ba’al. The Amorites had intermittent conflicts with the Israelites, but during this time they were at peace with the newfound nation Israel and Saul. Samuel was then appointed by god and served as a messenger to King Saul. The attack on their nation was going to be a surprise and was completely unwarranted other than the divine judgment given.
And to make the matter even more disturbing they had a covenant with them. If I remember correctly, god even sent a famine to Israel once Saul unlawfully attacked them. Some serious case of ass-backwardism if I ever did see.
Ninja-Edit: To make the tale even more twisted Saul goes to the Amorite nation and kills all the men, with the exception of the women, children, livestock, and the royal families. Although this was his misguided aim to gain wealth and livestock from the king, the fact that he was punished by god for not killing everyone is a hoot.
shit
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Do people seriously read this book and not find contradictions? I feel insane just typing this stuff.
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Have you ever studied the actual historical account of the Jews?
They were a people of war, a society of professional hoplite killers.
The Egyptians hired them to protect their borders until the Jews grew in numbers and unruly violent behavior enough that the pharaoh demanded they leave.
So in the dead of the night, the Jews murdered numerous Egyptians, stealing whatever supplies they wanted, and fled Egypt, ahead of the pharaoh’s army seeking justice for their murdered kin.
Moses, a war chief of no mean tactical ability, thwarted the Egyptians from getting their justice, and he and those who commanded after him, led the Jews to the “promised land”, where they immediately set about conquering all of the free cities therein, slaughtering all of their peoples, down to the tiniest infant, save for virgin women if child bearing age - whom they took as slaves, raping and impregnating them with a new generation of homicidal butchers.
These were YHWH’s chosen people, doing his will.
The very people Mohamed decreed his people to be linked with, save for the whole “our Allah is the true interpretation of said god”…and subsequently set about making up for time lost not committing atrocities against whomsoever was not them, by taking the Jews’ lifestyle of massacre and theft to new “heights”.
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So business as usual for the human race?
Baal was depicted to be a demon. Read some things on Egypt also because they talk about the Amorites and how barabaric they were.
This shit became a religion thread and it’s going to get locked. Just do your research and stop getting your arguments from you read around stupid sites. read the book (both the bible and the quran), and research also on the history of that time. That is all simple.
edit: CLU 2, please show your source concerning your last post about the Jews.
If YHWH is the measure of a god of good, then one has to wonder what the measure of demonic is.
P.S.
Quite a few of us have college degrees majoring in history and the like.
You obviously do not.
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Seems like it.
Interesting, can you give the source of this information so I can read it myself?
What kind of wanna be Harrison Ford ass nigga gets a degree in History? I mean come on man, kids these days don’t remember shit past last week anyway. Hell the only way I can remember what I did the night before is by counting how many empty 40 bottles and used condoms are lying at the foot of my bed. Although I must admit my system is quite accurate.