Osama Bin Laden is dead

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Even if he gave you the scenario you wanted, you would have dismissed it and called him a moron for it, going on the same line of “YOU DON’T HAVE ANY PANCAKE MIX”. You would have propably even go as far as to say, since it was a raid it would have presented too many problems, and was a hazard to the soldiers.

Just because I said they have the right to kill the innocents, doesn’t mean I belive it’s right to kill people. We the people have supported the killing, stavation, and stealing of these people for our own gain. We backed them up into a corner by being assholes. I see the attacks on the towers and I can see why they would do something like that. They have every right to strike back at those that have been stealing and profiting of their sake. We would have done the same shit if we where in their position. The only diffrence between US and THEM is we hide behind money and a false sense of moral’s and ethics.

Just because we are in a state of war, it does not justify the killing of an unarmed combatants once in custody. Regardless the situation, past experiences, or who he is. You cannot dismiss basic human rights out the window. As a country that spouts an endless stream of being moral and ethical, it cannot afford to say, “this is a war, filler, we can because its war.”

If that is the case (Osama was captured) Japan had every right to kill its POW, so did Nazi Germany, as did Stalin Soviet Russia, as did American soldiers with Japaneses soldiers.

Regardless of the situation, had he been caught unarmed he should have been apprehended, and every effort should have been done to bring him to the US. No questions asked.

Congrats, we have been doing it to them. Instead of flying planes, we steal and quash any movement that want’s to liberate themselves from our deep involvement in their country. Is this video supposed to make me feel angry against them, when we have been doing this to them first.

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Seems Pakistan is still sour and leaked the photos to the press Pakistan leaks Bin Laden death scene photos - Asia - Al Jazeera English

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Wait, pedo said that the people in the towers deserved to die in 9/11?

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Cliffs notes:
America is bad;
America deserves it when bad things happen to innocent Americans, with perpetuity and retroactively;
Wrongdoing in Iraq is evidence that America deserved 9/11 etc;
9/11 highjackers killing innocent people wasn’t “right,” but they had the “right” to do it.

It’s funny how people with myopic points of view are often convinced that they’re smarter than everyone else. Like a blind man who finds an elephant, and upon feeling its tail tries to convince everyone that he’s found a snake. And when they don’t agree with him, clearly they’re all fools…

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Your entire premise is flawed, because you assume bin Laden was safely in custody when he was killed, and you have no way of knowing that information. Secondly, an unarmed captive can still be dangerous.

You’ll have to bridle your hatred of America for one moment, and actually try to understand what people are saying. The fact that this is a war is HIGHLY relevant, because, as has been stated, bin Laden could legally be killed in an ambush such as this one. Because it has not been ascertained that he was restrained and in custody or had surrendered, his killing is justifiable legally. I know you don’t care about any of this and this entire thread has been an opportunity to complain about how evil America is, but at least pretend.

Given the treatment of many American POWs in WWII Japan, a summary execution would have been exceptionally more humane than being worked/starved to death. But that’s another thread.

Again, you have not basis to even start this argument, let alone make it, because you don’t know that bin Laden had been captured.

You don’t ask any questions, because you’re an idiot.

The fact that bin Laden wasn’t armed at the moment of contact with the Americans, along with many other factors people are taking for granted weren’t known to the Americans until after they began the raid and engaged bin Laden.

Let me simplify this for you:

If Random Taliban Fighter is sought after by U.S. troops and is known to be dangerous, should he be taken alive at risk to all of the soldiers on the field? At what point, in your opinion, does killing people become permissible during a war? And why is it different in this case?

You need to do some more reading on bin Laden’s motivations. You seem to be projecting yours onto him.

I don’t expect that you are so reasonable, no. Killing people is only bad when America does it, as your posts have made clear. When the other way around, it is completely justified.

My point, which I’m going to charitably assume that you genuinely missed, was that nobody wanted bin Laden dead because he “disagreed with us.” That is a disgusting misrepresentation of the truth, and is the product of your anti-American bias.

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Ts u gotta stop beating the anti american drum. Save the “you are with us or against us” stupidity for spuddly.

U can spout all your “u weren’t there” garbage all u want, but neither were u. Every indication and news report is stating he was unarmed. Hell, the USA has changed stories so man times in a week I wouldn’t be shocked if they editted Osama from 9/11

So sorry that so many of us smell bullshit and aren’t blindly following your united states of hypocrites

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Not gonna front, I don’t follow the news and have no clue on the details of how SEALs killed Osama but, assuming that they did capture him alive, what difference would it have made in the escape? The U.S. ended up obtaining his dead body right? Didn’t they have to escape carrying his corpse? It wouldn’t be much different if they carried him out a live. What would have went down differently? If SEALs did capture him, I would presume they could easily immobilize him bringing about a scenario similar to that of evacuating with a dead Osama. Can’t see the escape plan being much different unless they had planned to mail Osama’s dead body back to America.

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Pics or lies.

Pretty simple.

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:u: WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!

I know, right? How dare I say that pedoviejo has an anti-American bias, just because he says hates Americans and that we deserved 9/11. I’m such a facist!!

Thank you for not reading or understanding anything in any of my posts. In the future, you should avoid addressing people, when you have nothing to say about what they’ve actually stated.

Thanks,
TS

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I can.

That’s a whole other variable, which could lead to countless other variables, that they didn’t need to deal with.

Why risk it?

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This thread is still going on?

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Where’s Dexter and his syringe when you need him?

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Not in a heavily armed hostile foreign country that’s offering sanctuary and security to international terrorists, that’s for sure.

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Someone doesn’t have to be armed for it to be legal to kill them. Heck if a bunch of soldiers of military X that you are at war with are sitting around having lunch with no weapons it’s completely OK to kill them. Furthermore as a non uniformed combatant he can be dealt with as a saboture, he doesn’t really “get to surrender” in this status, any military from any nation could just shoot him in the head in a grocery store and it would have been legal. And finally there is no way of knowing he didn’t have a suicide vest on, or that others didn’t and in areas where that is common the standard practice is to shoot them first and figure out if they had a bomb vest on after.

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lol at pedo still trying to justify 9/11 and soviet crying tears over osama. not only should they have shot an unarmed osama, they should have tasered him, beat the crap out of him, and then shot him in the balls to let him bleed to death. but the religious fanatics would have been pissed off and suicide bombed more crap. so they gave him quick painless headshots instead.

smh at people trying to defend bad guys. terrorists dont deserve any human rights, they aren’t human. the mid east fanatics are still living like they were during medieval times, while everyone else has grown up. christianity has evolved to a point where its a lot more tame than it was a few centuries ago. islam hasn’t. true, there are still a few virulent strains of christianity (the worst combo probably being southern baptist evangelical or evangelical charismatics) that are warlike, but by and large most of it is peaceful. if you look at islam, its pretty much all militant.

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so, now you have decided to change your argument into one stating that it is impossible for the SEAL team to transport a captured bin Laden out of the compound without getting killed.
It seems you are beginning to paint yourself into a corner. It is really not that hard to imagine the team being able to get a physically lame, immobilized bin Laden out alive especially since all relevant enemies in the compound had been immobilized and that they, in fact, transported the body itself out anyway.
(disclaimer: of course if they killed him legally the whole argument in moot)

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I have a question, where do we go from here after bin laden is dead or what should this country do? Also I am kinda surprise that the US did not get attack during the last 9 years after 9/11.

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Yeah… no.

If you truly cannot see how such might have impeded them (most assuredly they did, and that is more than likely a major factor in their simply capping the piece of AIDS infested rancid monkey shit), then I shan’t waste another moment writing sense at you.

You are dumb; dumb in the mentally deficient connotation.

Were that you were also dumb, in the o.g. connotation, and that it carried over to your capacity to write.

TPB’s assertion about you is spot on.

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@RoninChaos, you asked people if they had 911 stories…i forget to post mine…i wasn’t anywhere near the towers, thankfully, but here’s mine anyway.

so i’m in the same apt i’m in now. i, from the south bronx, and from my high story window can see the twin towers, chrisler building, citibank skyscraper, and empire state building…i.e. all the skyscrapers in lower manhattan, believe it or not.

it was a cloudless clear day on 911 btw.

anywho…i woke up, turned on the radio to hear howard stern show, they’re just shootin the shit as always…i turn on the news, since its morning i wanns know the temperatures 4 the day.
15 minutes pass, all of a sudden i see on the new, breaking story.

you know what follows.

so, like 10 minutes pass on howard stern before anyone mentions on his show that a plane has hit the building.
howard stern and everyone else think that its an accident but then howard realizes that its a clear sky day and its impossible to crash your plane into a building on a clear day *they thought at first it was some small propeller plane, they didn’t imagine it was a jumbo sized passenger plane."
howard turns on the tv and says holy shi!

anyway they freak out! yadayada, …second plane hits.

they realize along with everyone else that its no accident and that its a terrorist attack.
they meaning peeps on the H. stern show and the newscasters and everyone else.

here’s the part that is the only reason i’m mentioning this.

so then i remember that i can actually see the twin towers from my window, i go take a look and i see the most surreal sight.
from my window pre-911, the twin towers looked like: the twin towers.
on 911, the twin towers looked like: 2 chimneys billowing out a ton of smoke. thats how the looked like from my window. like two chimneys in use. they didn’t look like building with people inside them at all.
just like…2 chimneys.
hence why i say it looked surreal.
my apt was too far away for me to see the huge fire,…just the smoke. so they looked like chimneys with smoke billowing from their tops.

so i’m looking at the news, hearing howard, and occasionally looking out the window…i see from the helicopter footage hanging over the insanity one of the building start swaying. and i mean seriously swaying …and i say to myself “uh-oh that can’t be good. that building is gonna go down any second. if it falls, the second one is definitely falling too” 10-15 minutes later, it did.

totally forgot to take look at the scene through my window.

1/2 hour later or whatever time frame it was, second one comes down.

remembered to look through the window. saw a huge massive just simply massive cloud of smoke originating from where the towers use’ta be.

just massive, and up against the bright beautiful blue sky, that black, brown, orange, grey, and red smoke…streaking to a northwesterly(direction how it seemed to be blowing to from my window) direction…looked so …

anyway, then my aunt called me crying and saying "-my real name-, its WW3! its the end of the world!"
then i had to call her hysterical ass down over the phone.

and a ton of passenger planes trying to land at LaGuardia airport all at once. since they ordered, cuz the army was ready to shoot down any planes that didn’t either respond to communications or not got out of the air asap.

then i remember the first news agency that was on point bullseye in regards to who exactly and which nation was behind the attacks were,…was bbc world news. they already had some afghani press rep denying everything.

i then also remember seeing cars going 100 to 110 if not faster on the freeway, in the ‘leaving manhattan-entering bronx’ part of the freeway.its a 2 way freeway btw. which was really stupid since the freeway is no where near the towers, and people were risking their lives driving that insanely fast.
oh and tons of firetrucks and cop cars trying to get at the scene on the other ‘exiting bronx-entering manhattan’ way of the freeway.

like 6-7 hours later is when the national guard military helicopters flew very near my building. so close i saw the dude behind the chain machine gun on the side like VietNam type shit ready to fire on anything that needed to be blazed on.

night came. like 11pm or midnight. there was a thunderstorm…with no rain.

probably due to the huge amounts of dust in the air from the destruction.

an unnaturally rainless thunderstorm.
think about it.

that was my 911.
its not a scary story of 911 since i was no where near wtc, but the surreal 2 chimney imagery of the twin towers i think was worth a mention.
i use’to work 1 block away from the towers 7 years before 01 though. i remember looking up at those two skyscrapers in awe of how insanely tall they were. way taller than the empire state building if anyone has ever been right beneath them and looking up at them,… thankfully for me in 94 and not 01. cuz to get off at that wtc train stop to go to work - on that day…hell no. god no.