Honestly I couldn’t give a fuck about Bin Laden allegedly being killed. I would be more psyched if the big news was that our economy has been restored and gas prices have dropped 2 bucks. Now THAT would be a reason to celebrate.
I guarantee this will usher in a new decade of fear mongering, civil liberty violating, exorbitant spending bullshit when the next terrorist boogey man is propped up to assume Bin Laden’s job.
(Ugh. Even the local news has been talking about this ad nausem. Why am I surprised?)
Lol at various people calling this “justice” and saying that it proves that “good” will always triumph over “evil”. The former I can perhaps agree with since revenge/“an eye for an eye” is pretty much the closest thing to justice that exists, but the latter always makes me ponder the same question: How do absolutists function with such brain-death?
I disagree obviously, but then again, I admittedly will never understand most things related to the fanatic sports-goings. I guess even as much as I can understand celebrating someone’s death, I’ve never really got the vicarious public celebration reaction unless it from the people that person had personally oppressed. It’s not like Osama’s death magically ends terrorism or actually makes us (notably) safer, so…yeah, I don’t get the chanting thing at all.
Oh, we’ve plenty such demonstrations everyday. For some reason, I’m not jaded to it yet given that I’m still shaking my head at these news clips. On the same note, I have could perhaps go the more optimistic route and assume that part of the reason for this showing is that news will obviously pick the more emotional reactions rather than the more somber, cathartic ones or the ones who just don’t really care/who realize this doesn’t change anything.
But, yeah, I kind of doubt that’s the case knowing human nature.
Oh well. It’s ultimately no skin off my back. Besides, it will probably die down a bit by as soon as tomorrow when those people go back to work (if they still have a job). Then they’ll again realize that price of gas is still the same, the economy still sucks and that our security hasn’t really gotten anymore secure despite having raped a lot of civil liberties along the way.
Hmmm…on that note, I wonder how (or if) the people in the south who got destroyed by tornadoes earlier this week are reacting to this news.
me…
I was actually suppose to go to Chinatown Fair that day because I had school the next…but…I woke up late.
That FB page is only funny to see how fucking racist everyone is. Yeah, we should be relieved he’s dead. But c’mon.
No need to be like “that god damn towel head deserved it” and racist shit like that.
No wonder everyone hates us. lol
Now suddenly, I have an urge to play Modern Warfare 2…
That’s not why. Most people don’t even know how we really act on our own soil. It’s the whole take what we want/we own the world mentality that makes people hate Americans in general.
I’m curious how you guys feel. I saw the after math in person and it was one of the worse things, if not THE worst thing, I’ve ever experienced in my life.
thats just crazy white people…they got those kinds of people in every country that is predominantly white. they hate us for a whole slew of other reasons racism isnt one of them. id love to see a country with the least amount of racism.
Well to be honest, I’m one to not really react to stuff. I just didn’t like how people acted afterward. Everyone was all “lets join hands” and shit, but then beforehand they were ready to kill each other.
I dunno, I don’t have any strong feelings about it.
I visit 2 graves on 9/11 every year. I worked in midtown Manhattan in 2001, and was getting off the Staten Island Ferry walking over to bowling green on my way to work that day until I noticed a lot of people pointing up at the sky. One of the towers were burning. I walked towards Cortland. I saw the second plane hit. I saw someone jump. I saw the first tower go down, then I ran from the smoke. I stayed home from work for the next week, I gave blood that was probably never used (Blood banks didn’t have anyone to give the blood to) I stayed home and did a lot of nothing. I was numb. I think I even made a post on SRK about it the next day or maybe even that night, not sure.
I’m glad we got him, I was hoping we would capture him alive, but I’ll take it. I’m worried that this would make a martyr out of him to the rest of Al-Queda, but that was going to be the case regardless. After almost 10 years, I’m almost numb to idea of revenge. It’s not like I got my own personal revenge for my friends, I had nothing to do with Osama’s death. Someone else pulled that trigger. I’m kinda just sitting here, wondering what’s going to happen next. Where do we go from here?
^_-;
ONE PIECE!
Actually this is quite normal from a social standpoint. Humans and other apes display the same behavior when either driving rivals away from their territory (and in documented cases with chimps… murder!) or celebrating an abundance of food. Dolphins (e.q. orcas) will do group displays of joy and frolic after a successful hunt as well. This probably evolved as a way to renew social bonds within a group.
HO-HAH!!! :woot:
Can those soldiers collect the bounty, or does it just fizzle out?
This breaks even, for me.
My dad was supposed to fly into NY early on Sept. 11th to inspect his companies’ hardware inside the WTC, but luckily, he missed his flight, because he had to take me to school that day. I didn’t know of this until later on in the day, so from the time that news was getting around, to around noon, when he showed up to take me home, I thought for sure that my dad was dead.
I can see where the celebration is coming from. I can say for damn sure, that if my dad had died that day, I would’ve gladly joined the armed services to help hunt down the bastard myself, and if I were still alive to this day, I’d be -so happy-. It’s not the same for everyone, surely, but he’s been the boogeyman long enough.
But that’s not what happened, so I’m not particularly pleased or distressed by it.
However, I won’t act like the motherfucker didn’t have this shit coming. I can’t say whether the 3500~ that were killed as intended targets on 9/11 have the same value of life as the many more that were effectively collateral damage in trying to get him, but in my opinion, he has to die. I’ve been seeing people saying “Oh, ignorance of the american people. We could’ve just captured him. He should spend the rest of his life in prison, living with the guilt of what he did. I weep for our future. Oh woe.”
Really? So many lives were lost, either through his actions or in his pursuit, and we expect him to feel guilt? Why should he? As far as we could ever know, he probably thought he was doing the right thing.
I just feel that sentiment has a subtext of lowering the worth of those who died because of him. Not just Americans, either.
Not trying to be a downer, but my first thought is…in the long run how is this going to change anything at all?
I mean, I’m glad people who experienced personal loss during 9/11 will feel like they have some kind of closure…but one man’s death won’t bring back the world before 9/11.
If I was optimistic, I’d say this would be a good cause to scale down the “War on Terror” and the out-of-control spending on “Defense”, as well as the government cracking down on our civil liberties.
But I’m not an optimist.
I mean if gas prices didn’t go down and the US didn’t get the fuck out of Iraq once Hussein was killed, why would there be any change just because Osama is dead?
Gas prices are still going to keep rising, the people who made out like bandits because of the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions aren’t going to be paying back any of the money they ROBBED from the American taxpayers, and the Taliban still fucking hate us because WE’RE STILL IN THEIR FUCKING COUNTRY.
Bear in mind, I didn’t say it was necessarily a bad thing. I believe I described a behavior without offering a qualitative judgment.
What it boils down to is that people are happy to see somebody dead. I would suggest that everybody has this capacity. It’s built right into our DNA. The degree that it takes to draw that feeling out of people varies depending on their individual personalities. Some people are happy to see murderers or child molesters dead, and it doesn’t much matter to them how it happens. (The latter clause is one of the differences between justice and vengeance.) For others, it’s a little more extreme. Some people don’t allow themselves to indulge that feeling except in the wildest cases, such as Osama or Saddam. Then there’s the opposite extreme, where there are people who would round up a gang of their friends and go shoot somebody up over matters of perceived disrespect, money owed, or whatever.
It is intellectually dishonest to pretend that the feeling of happiness over one person’s death is fundamentally separate from the feeling of happiness over anybody’s death. The only variation is in the degree of the apparent wrongs committed by the person in question. At the heart of it, it’s the same chimpanzee instinct–a stimulation of one’s own primitive reward center at the expense of somebody else’s life. I believe this is what The Damned is referring to.
lol fucking umass tonight [media=youtube]2clGJeO6lPw&feature=player_embedded#at=27[/media]
wait what … osama is just a figurehead? killing him changes nothing? america is still fucked? terrorists will STILL terrorize?
well DUH no fucking shit, that’s obvious to anyone whose not a total redneck, but with times being as shitty as they are, fuck yeah people are going to be cheering that a bad guy got killed! wuhoo!
i’m not a patriotic person by any stretch (i sat down during the national anthem and did NOT sing along while at a baseball game!111!!!), i’m still gonna yell america fuck yeah when a bad guy actually gets taken down. cause you know in the real world, the bad guys get away with shit all the time. so rare to see the opposite happen.
I’ll only stand up and cheer when the REAL criminals in the government, corporations, banks, etc are brought to justice or just shot in the street like dogs. Whichever comes first.
I came into GD after months just cuz I know SRK would have a thread about this. <3