I mean personality wise.
Power wise he would be great but name a personality trait that you could say would define his place in the crew that isn’t already used by someone else on it. At least Brook could walk in as the funny creepy old guy of the group/musician. Jimbei would be what the crew’s bodyguard?
Jinbei honestly doesn’t bring nothing to the table for them.They got the monster strength covered wtih Chopper,Luffy,and Frankie.
Precisely. Other than being some kind of attention-getter (they have a former Shichibukai on their crew WOOOWWW!) he serves no purpose and has no comedy element. There’s a reason why Robin is the only 100% serious-archetype on the crew.
Yes, at the moment, Jinbei currently doesn’t have a weird quirk to his personality, something that all of the Strawhats have. Even Robin, the most normal and serious of the Strawhats, has a quirk (her morbid thinking and comments).
OK after reading the latest chapter [spoiler=]Is Shirahoshi gonna be the new SW? I know she’s gigantic but still…
Do we know who shot Otohime?[/spoiler]
BTW what does Shirahoshi translate to? I know Hoshi means star.
(Apparently there’s some of type of Databook that’s also up on mangastream now.)
I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that so many people still think that’s Jinbei/Jimbei is going to join, especially since he’s getting so fleshed out and the crew probably get a Fishman among the last two members. However, I don’t see them actually getting a crew member here…for several reasons.
It doesn’t exactly help that the only two other remembers are Shirahoshi, who’s royalty and probably an actual pacifist, and Caimie, whom everyone seems to have forgotten about because she’s just like a lesser if still nice version of Vivi. (It also doesn’t help me that I still find the whole "giants fitting ships issue a bit…problematic, but I suck at visualizing things.)
Fishman Game of Clue
[details=Spoiler]As for who shot Otohime, I thought it was pretty obvious that it was Vander Decker since page 17 confirmed he has a gun on his back after he touched Shirahoshi. Honestly, it didn’t even occur to me that it might have been anyone else until I read the comments on this chapter.
While, yes, I concede that it could be another, I highly doubt that it was someone else. Despite the fact that Vander Decker hasn’t been as notably anti-human as Hodi and his crew, he’s obviously not fond of them given the whole “throw humans as missiles to get to the palace” routine among other things. Burning the signatures seems more like a means to an end to get Otohime within his lines of sights, which within itself seemed like it was ultimately a plan to tag Otohime like he ended up doing. He’s been shown as sociopathic enough to do anything that further his agenda, especially since he feels that her power is his birthright. If anything, burning the signatures seems like an added bonus since it means that Fishman Island stayed more isolated, thus meaning that far fewer people had a chance to find out about Shirahoshi’s power before he could use it to presumably conquer the world (in his mind).
I suppose there hasn’t been much to show he’s interested beyond wealth and power to go as far as conquering the world/seas as his ultimate plan, but there honestly doesn’t seem like they’re be anyone else (in my mind). Even Hodi had enough respect for Otohime that he never tried to do any bodily harm to her even though he probably had some chances as a royal guard. Maybe he allowed her to be shot given he disagreed with her, but I don’t see him or any of his crew having pulled the actual trigger. Besides, I can’t remember, but I don’t think he and Vander Decker even actually met face to face until recently, so there’s that.
The only other “suspect” is, what, that Fishman slaver named Marco? I don’t think he even went back to Fishman Island after Fisher Tiger died and it’s not like Reverie would stop slavery’s existence, especially since humans are also enslaved. So even with as lucrative as mermaids are, I don’t see it being him either.
(Great. Now that title of this lengthy spoiler is probably going to make read all of Vander Decker’s lines in Tim Curry’s voice. I guess there could be worse things.)[/details]
Lol.
Oh good. I was thinking that the spoiler thing might be the third thing “wrong” with move over. Glad to see that got fixed.
And, yeah, her death ended up being more fucked up than I thought, especially since the two younger sons had to keep up a facade to stop Shirahoshi from accidentally destroying the entire island.
I thought that Pandaman was seen on Shabondy again as soon as the time skip ended. Maybe I’m mistaken, but I thought that we had seen him again after the Pandawoman cameo on the Amazon Isle.
I must admit that I laughed. However, it makes sense when you remember that it was on the upper levels apparently away from any of the tubes or ports. Still oddly humorous in a fucked up way though.
Yeah, as nice as Jinbei/Jimbei joining would be, I don’t see it ultimately happening because all indications are that Fishman Island is going to get destroyed before this arc is over and there’s going to have to be (extensive) rebuilding. While Neptune will (probably) still be alive, I can’t see Jinbei just abandoning people, especially given his interaction with Fisher Tiger AND Otohime.
In fact, the flashback’s actually convinced me a bit more that won’t join.
True, but other characters that have had dreams haven’t joined. Besides, technically, we haven’t seen Jinbei’s personal dream, have we? We know that he supports both Fishman Tiger’s and Otohime’s philosophy, but that seems to be more the dream of Fishman Island as a whole besides Hodi and his crew.
Shirahoshi means “Death Sun Star”. …Yeah, I got nothing.
Damned: I just don’t think Decken is that smart to concoct the plan you just proposed, I mean it seems obvious he would be the culprit, which is why I wouldn’t judge him outright. The whole scene where he was “suspiciously present” looked like something designed to draw us to an early conclusion… just like Madame Shirley’s prediction.
Honestly, I think this arc is really only just getting started, so it’s probably way too early to predict who is or isn’t joining.
There are a few characters who have been talked about, but yet to make an appearance in this arc. For example, Keimi asked the quintuplets if the ship approaching Mermaid Cafe belonged to “Medaka’s Gang” (see the bottom of this page), who do not seem to have made an appearance yet.
In addition, Big Mam is the current protector of Fishman Island, so it’s likely that she may get involved in this mess as well.
(Ugh. Why do I keep thinking Vander Decken’s name is Vander Decker half of the time?)
Nah, I’d say that this arc is already like 33% of the way over at least. That Medaka’s Gang might show up before the end (and will definitely show up later), but I highly doubt that Big Mam will be showing up in person before this arc is ended. In fact, I’m betting that when Fishman Island does get destroyed, she’ll blame Luffy and co. for it regardless of whether they’re the actual reason and the only thing that will stop a Yonkou from kicking their asses is because she turns out to Lola’s mother like a bunch of people are expecting; I am among that group of people obviously.
I concede that I could be wrong and yeah, he could be a total red herring. However, I don’t think the scheme I described is that complex. It’s not like he’s pulling a Xanatos or anything out of nowhere:
[LIST]
[]Step 1: Sabotage’s Queen’s signature project to get her to drop her guard even further than normal.
[]Step 2: Shoot Queen aiming to cause moderate or greater injury.
[]Step 3: Touch Shirahoshi in the chaos to mark her with the Mato Mato no Mi.
[]Step 4: ???
[*]Step 5: Profit.
[/LIST]
That seems pretty simple to me. It’s not like he engineered signature drive only to sabotage it just to this end or anything overly complex like that and Otohime was already seen as being (extremely) reckless. While Decken may not be a Chessmaster and maybe come off as goofy for the most part, like Caribou he’s smarter than he seems (or at least not a complete moron).
(Ugh. Why do I keep thinking Vander Decken’s name is Vander Decker half of the time?)
Nah, I’d say that this arc is already like 33% of the way over at least. That Medaka’s Gang might show up before the end (and will definitely show up later), but I highly doubt that Big Mam will be showing up in person before this arc is ended. In fact, I’m betting that when Fishman Island does get destroyed, she’ll blame Luffy and co. for it regardless of whether they’re the actual reason and the only thing that will stop a Yonkou from kicking their asses is because she turns out to Lola’s mother like a bunch of people are expecting; I am among that group of people obviously.
I concede that I could be wrong and yeah, he could be a total red herring. However, I don’t think the scheme I described is that complex. It’s not like he’s pulling a Xanatos or anything out of nowhere:
[LIST]
[]Step 1: Sabotage Queen’s signature project to get her to drop her guard even further than normal.
[]Step 2: Shoot Queen aiming to cause moderate or greater injury.
[]Step 3: Touch Shirahoshi in the chaos to mark her with the Mato Mato no Mi.
[]Step 4: ???
[*]Step 5: Profit.
[/LIST]
That seems pretty simple to me. It’s not like he engineered signature drive only to sabotage it just to this end or anything overly complex like that and Otohime was already seen as being (extremely) reckless. While Decken may not be a Chessmaster and may come off as goofy for the most part, like Caribou he’s smarter than he seems (or at least not a complete moron).
The whole scene just looked like Vander Decken took advantage of a random sticky situation, and then bolted to plot his “real” plan. Oda also intended on showing us how he got to touch the princess in the first place in one quick moment.
But maybe you’re right and I am underestimating him. I just imagine Decken being the type who’d plot a plan to touch the princess by tripping over a rock or having his goons toss him into her over a balcony or something to that effect, not murder the country’s beloved queen.
Such revelation would make Luffy very VERY angry, much to my liking… :rock:
I guess you could be right. However, considering that Fishman Island has been hinted at since the Arlong Park arc, and built up since the end of the Enies Lobby Arc, I personally think that this arc is going to be really long. I mean, excluding the flashback chapters, the Strawhats have only been on Fishman Island for around 12 or so chapters; even the relatively short Thriller Bark arc lasted for almost 50 chapters.
627 is out.
627
[details=Spoiler]
Otohime was killed by a human. Interestingly enough, Jimbei didn’t want the rest of the kingdom to know, but Hodi went ahead and revealed it.
Nami is once again acting as the mature one and still forgiving Jimbei (actually being thankful at gaining a new friend in Hacchan) and actually taking a shining to Shirahoshi who she feels has a similar background to her. Also seems to indicate the Shirahoshi knows about her power since they’re talking about it openly.
Meanwhile Sanji getting worked up about it and asking him to commit seppuku was made of lulz and so was Luffy sleeping through everything.
Speaking of which, it’s great to see some of the Straw Hats again after all this time.[/details]
Also, no One Piece next week. Boo!
Damn I love that Luffy can be such an asshole sometimes.
Still not a hundred percent on the “reveal” myself, especially given who all was involved. And no OP next week…
I guess I will have time to catch up on the anime. Have they massacred Grey Terminal yet or are they milking Luffy’s childhood as much as possible before getting to the training arcs that will take place in the time skip?
Biggest question of this chapter so far:
big question
[details=Spoiler]
How the heck does Shirahoshi’s top stay on without giving her nip slips every time she moves?
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/75149428/16
I mean, she’s one small shake away from giving Nami and Chopper a show (and likely killing Sanji) on that panel.[/details]
Last I checked, they were trying to each episode correspond to a single chapter of the manga. So they shouldn’t pad/milk it that much.
Interesting chapter, it’s nice to see some of my predictions come to fruition.
Queen Otohime
[details=Spoiler] It’s interesting that Oda shows that a human pirate was the culprit but won’t delve into his motive, or better yet, who paid him off. cough Tenryuubitches cough
I liked the moral upholding that the king upheld even with all his anger and frustration, his actions probably prevented the destruction of Fishman Island since I’m sure the culprits wanted to ignite a war with these underhanded tactics.
Jinbe, what a G… he’s now becoming one of my favorite characters after displaying such anguish on the behalf of humans.[/details]
Love that “I’m going to send him flying!” look Luffy gave. Now the fun’s about to start!:nunchuck:
(Oh wow. 
I laughed way too hard at the cover page’s restaurant using Sanji’s “face” and Luffy being asleep.)
So the flashback has finally come to an end. At least people won’t be able to complain about that anymore.
I don’t know why, but I was kinda of expecting people to be dressed in white for the funeral.
Nice to see that Jinbei’s anguish was less the “overblown” one that people tend to criticize when it comes to One Piece. It makes it seem that much more real and poignant. The same with Neptune and Fukaboshi.
Thanks as always, d3v.
As for spoilers…well, I’ll answer that when it comes to white shadow’s post.
Speaking of him, since there’s no One Piece next week, the answer is obvious: read fanfiction of it. :razzy:
I don’t know. That’s certainly possible, but that’s really not what I thought of at all.
Red Herring Fishman
[details=Spoiler]However, it does seem a bit convenient that they find him almost immediately after by himself instead of with his crew. It’s even more convenient that Hordy gets to preach his hate because of it. Ironically, this makes me start to suspect Hordy a lot more than less, though I’d also say that it’s still possible Vander Decken is behind it since modern day pirates have been shown to be terrified of both of them.
So that makes three possible suspects to me: Vander Decken (still), Hordy (now) and the Tenryuubito (as you suggested). I rather it not be the latter still given that they seem responsible for all of the bad shit lately, but it wouldn’t be surprising.
Oh well. I suppose all will be revealed before this arc is fully over.[/details]
I thought it was pretty obvious that Hodi killed Otohime. I’m not saying he pulled the trigger, but since it was said explicitly that he doesn’t care about killing his fellow fishmen if he thinks they might be working with humans, I felt that meant he planned the whole thing.
Yay, finally back to the current timeline!
Yeah that gave me some suspicion that he may have been involved somehow. I don’t know about obvious, but I’d consider it something that may be revealed in later chapters when the fighting starts back up.