Yeah those are just regular bananas as all Devil fruits have swirls.
Borsalino
Spoiler
Kizaru translates and the “Yellow Monkey”. hint hint/ nudge nudge
(Ugh. I read this yesterday, but I fell asleep and got distracted before I could think of worthy reply.)
Excellent chapter. Man, I never thought the Tenryuubito would manage to be even more complete monsters than they would be without verging into ham-fisted “because I’m evil” bad-Saturday-morning cartoon villain territory, but…geez. I mean, it’s not like I expected them to treat their slaves nicely or anything between Boa’s back-story, St. Charles basically further injury a severely injured man for the hell of it, and lesser nobles burning the hell of those trash people just to save appearances…for something they caused. But…still. One Piece really is a Crapsaccharine World, which makes me wonder why so many people bitch about it being so happy-go-lucky, especially when Luffy and crew are an exception to pirates rather than the rule as seen by Kidd and others.
It’s really telling something that an eleven-old girl got smacked in the face hard-ass by Arlong, who has super-strength, and not only remains conscious but immediately begin cleaning. Not only that, but Koala recovered (consciousness) extremely quickly after Fisher Tiger burned/branded over slave mark. What the fuck, Tenryuubito? What the fuck?
This chapter also managed to make Arlong even look worse as a “person”, which is also rather surprising considering what he already did.
It really is, especially for minor characters or characters whom we already know the fate of. Otohime was hardly focused on in this chapter, but we learned quite a bit more about her just because of her reaction to Fisher Tiger’s unspoken “heart” when he reported to Neptune.
I hope that I only put an fraction that interest into minor characters (if I ever get around to actually writing anything).
Heh, yeah, it weirded me out a bit; I had to remind myself that the actor that Borsalino is based on did Japanese detective movies or something. The marine officer with Marge Simpson hair complete with hat is just odd-looking though, heh; I wonder if we’ll be seeing him again when the flashback ends.
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[]I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Fisher Tiger was also a master of Fishman Karate given that Jinbei had to learn it from somewhere/someone and that Jinbe keep calls him “Big Brother Tai” given that they grew up together and seem closer than the other Fishman. I mean, the fact that Fisher Tiger asked Jinbei–granted, he was in Neptune’s army–what Otohime would think of him and implicitly confessed that he was having a hard time suppressing the human-hating tendencies that Arlong gave into so willingly says a lot I think.
[]Agreed. That poor girl.
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Yeah, I can see that. It’s probably just the cursing, though only Arlong really cursed and with him it’s believable.
I guess he mellowed down…after enslaving an entire island like the Tenryuubito. :bluu:
Yeah, I would have liked to see that as well. But it would only extent the flashback and Oda might be saving it for later if/when we see Boa again.
(I was initially going to say that they probably hadn’t even met face-to-face, but then I remembered that Fisher would had to be the one who branded her and her sisters.)
Mr. Hi-Top is Vice-Admiral Strawberry. He was at Marineford and he made his first official appearance during the Enies Lobby arc, as one of the five Marine VAs commanding the Buster Call ships.
This reminds me that I still need to technically “catch-up”.
Ah, thanks. I honestly don’t remember his character at all and I’m sure I would have remembered due to his hair considering I remember Shuu and Very Good (whoops, put “Very Berry”, heh) and (anime-only?) Shuringan (or whatever the wheel-guy was named).
I can see why you’d miss him, considering he hasn’t even said very much, aside from commanding his ship to fire on Kashi, Oimo, and The Galley-La Company during the Buster Call at Enies Lobby. I recognized him because of his face and his hair, which was apparently covered by an equally tall hat.
Strawberry - The One Piece Wiki <—These days, he sports an extremely long beard.
I knew I recognized him! Dammit I can’t believe I didn’t know it was Strawberry. prepares to commit seppuku (TEK-KAI!) Death averted. 
I think Strawberry still has his hi top, it’s just that he has a hat to fit it and a beard to match.
Only in this thread (and Arlong Park) do I feel that I know less of OP than I thought.
Considering that the slave girl’s name was Koala, maybe she’s in the WG? Remember the Shichibukai all have animal-type names so it might be possible. Maybe she returns this arc as well.
(Stop invoking Kumadori, white shadow.)
Going off that Strawberry thing, wow, I hadn’t realized the SBSs were so informative. I didn’t know that there was any information on Otsuru’s power or what differences between Marco’s Phoenix Zoan’s flames and Ace’s Logia’s flames were. (Well, outside of the whole not dying to Akainu on Marco’s part…) Apparently SBS Volume 58 answered both of those and much more.
Hell, I didn’t even know that Sengoku’s fruit had been revealed as a Zoan in SBS Volume 60. It’s weird and kind of WTF…yet it’s just another example of Fridge Brilliance when I think about it.
I have to resist reading that Wiki even more given that I have things to do (or so I tell myself), so I’ll just conclude by saying it’s amusing to note that I can’t recall noticing before how the SBS pictures always spell that out.
That seems kind of a stretch, at least that she’ll return as part of the WG, especially since she was technically enslaved by them.
I think that Oda’s just a fan of punny names and Koala is too cute a name to intimidating–then again, you could say the same thing about Flamingo…
Regardless, there’s already a “bear” on the Shichibukai and it’s not like there have been people named after animals (or with animal motifs) that weren’t part of the Shichibukai. It also just kind of occurs to me that it would be right up the Tenryuubito’s completely assholish alley to give someone the name of animal anyway. Besides, I’m pretty sure that Shichibukai naming conventions will have been broken by Buggy likely having become a part of it by now, so…
That said, I do think there’s a good chance we’ll see her again…if she survives the flashback.
Wow, so Marco’s flames don’t burn and Sengoku’s fruit is a Zoan. The things you learn…
It’s interesting how Marco has a Zoan fruit with Logia-like effects and Sengoku has a Zoan fruit with Paramecia-like effects. I wonder if there is an inverse of this as well?
Those are just the highest level Zoan fruits. The ones that basically allow you to turn into mythical things.
Yep that’s what I meant.
Dragon Dragon Fruit (Rare Mythical Models: Asian and European )
Centaur Centaur Fruit
Chimera Chimera Fruit
Griffon Griffon Fruit
Yeti Yeti Fruit
Jackalope Jackalope Fruit
Blackbeard, like we all have hypothesized, probably ate the Cerebrus Cerebrus fruit.
(Yeah, I still don’t agree with the Cerberus theory. I mean, I can see Oda pulling it off, but…no.)
Wow! I am an idiot–not exactly news.
When it comes to the Shichibukai naming convention, I just now realized that Buggy still fits the anime theme. Haha. Nice one, Oda.
Yep! And these tidbits of knowledge are at least slightly useful compared to other trivia.
You mean like Paramecia with Logia-like effects or Paramecia with the Zoan-like effects?
We’ve already seen a bunch of the former when you think about it, though, between abilities like Mr. 3’s wax-generation powers, Mr. 1’s metallic body/permanent Tekkai and ability to generate blades and Kalifa’s bubble-generation powers–hell, Kalifa’s powers are probably the closest thing we’ll ever see to what would be an otherwise-broken Water Logia. Magellan’s poisonous powers are probably the pinnacle of Logia-like Paramecia.
As for Zoan-like Paramecia, I was going to say that I doubt we’ll ever see those see those since the line between Paramecia and Zoan is already pretty thin, especially now knowing that Sengoku’s fruit is actually a Zoan one now. However, I just realized that we’ve already technically seen two abilities that could qualify: Wapol’s eating ability, which should technically allow him to become chimeric if he ate (a lot) of animals, and Mr. 2’s cloning powers, which, while only working on sentient beings, applies to quite a few more animals than in the real world–at the very least, Mr. 2 should be able to replicate any and all fishmen.
I could see all of these happening–a Chimera fruit was something that I hadn’t thought of that would be pretty bitching–except for the Centaur Centaur Fruit. As shown by Gan Fall’s parrot, the centaur thing is easily replicated by just having a human eat the Uma Uma No Mi and refining it heavily since Centaurs are just half-human, half-horses anyway.
Since we’re talking about Zoans, when it comes to Kaidou, I forget, what type of dragon did you think he was going to be? Asian or European? Personally, I think that I’d actually go with European given the speculation about Dragon (as in Luffy’s father).
This has never made any sense to me. Not to mention it would take some unnecessarily convoluted Bleach/Naruto-like circumstances to explain why this would have to happen in the first place.
IMO Magellan is close due to the extent at which he can manipulate his poison, but Mr.3 and Mr.1 can only activate their ability in regions at a time (usually) and still have a physical body to damage.
Here’s an example. Let’s just say there’s a “Claw Claw” fruit or in Lafitte’s case, a “Wing Wing” fruit, due to the broad parameters of such a Paramecia power the users could learn to create claws or wings from different animals, even mythical ones.
You’re forgetting that objects can "eat Devil Fruits as well, so the Centaur could be a tank/steed hybrid or anything. Which just reminds me, a Logia type weapon would be pretty damn cool. Using Haki or whatever you could manipulate it to anything you want.
I’ve always imagined Kaidou as a EU Dragon since those have always been associated with sinister doings. Plus, they breathe FIYAH!!!
Maybe he ate the Rusty venture eat your brothers in the womb fruit and has space in his body from the two extra dead souls that are just sitting inside of him.
I love Venture Brothers.
(I am reminded that I need to actually look at something else now…)
Oh good, a debate. I needed something to do today.
attempts to crack knuckles and just ends up hurting himself
I concur.
I am aware of this. Magellan can still be hit too–it’s just extremely detrimental for most people, especially if they do it hand-to-hand. Mr. 3 could do the same thing, but not as fluidly given how quickly his wax hardens; hell, he did make wax armor when they were busting out of Impel Down and even when he was dehydrated and near death due to Crocodile, he still made was able to make a rather ridiculous amount of wax like a Logia. Mr. 1 is, well, Mr. 1; of course he’s solid, but I can’t imagine it would be too fun or advantageous to punch a bladed object unless you’re Boa or someone else with godlike strength; the same thing applies for Jose’s diamond Paramecia.
Hell, same thing applies with Kalifa: There’s really nothing to stop her from covering herself in bubbles and then rushing into attack someone or activate Kami-E or Tekkai to block while sapping someone’s strength…outside of maybe slipping…
I think the thing you’re doing is fixating on the requirements for being able to generate stuff AND be able to dodge things with your power by turning into what it represents when it comes to Paramecia that are like Logia, but can otherwise only do one or the other because they are not Logia. I mean, there are a few Paramecia that also are very good at outright dodging things like Buggy’s splitting ability, Hina’s caging abilities, Blueno’s door ability (especially since there’s nothing to say he can’t make a door on himself) and Very Good’s splitting ability. However, those things, sans Hina, don’t “produce” anything though and even Hina doesn’t produce an element.
The closest we’re probably going to get to a Logia-like Paramecia is Magellan’s poisonous power when it comes to canon, though filler has a couple that are also really close.
Ah, I see. That’s what I thought you were getting at.
I don’t really see that happening, though, especially the only animal-themed Paramecia bearly has to anything to do with regular animal parts. If such a fruits exist, then I can only see them existing if they had an additional effect like that the filler-only Kama-Kama No Mi.
Besides, I thought that we had agreed awhile ago that Lafitte is most likely a Zoan, like a Swan or something.
I didn’t forget that, especially since I was looking at the Zoan page where Lassoo and Funkfreed reside. I was more going by the naming convention and realizing that all of the Zoans, even the named mythical one, follow the convention of “animal-animal”–even though Marco’s is unnamed, I’m pretty sure his fruit will end up being revealed as “Tori Tori no Mi: Model: Phoenix”.
All of the ones you suggested except Centaur fit that since centaurs really are just half-horse, half-humans and there’s already a perfectly good Uma Uma no Mi in existence, even if it is being used by a bird at present; chimera and jackalope are kind of iffy, but their animal combinations are a lot less half and half that I could see them being the only model in their series unlike centaurs.
Also, I have to disagree on Logia-weapon front. Unless it’s like the Pluton or some other huge battle-ship, it seems like a Logia would always be more useful to give to living being than an inanimate object, even assuming your Haki manipulation theory could be proved true. Paramecia-weapons seem like they’d be a lot more useful between things like Doa-Doa guns and Suke-Suke cloaks.
Ah, right. That sounds familiar.
Hina and Buggy are decent examples I guess, and I agree with my fixation on the “perfect duality”.
I realize that I never look at non-canon material. Maybe I should look out of boredom.
I am in the consensus of him being a Zoan, but something about his power seems mildly ambiguous, as if Oda wants us to think it’s an ordinary Zoan power when it’s something else.
I like the idea of Logia weapons because the wielder could have infinite modulations at his disposal, only limited to their creativity.
Imagine a skilled archer who has a single Fire Logia Arrow that can basically shoot a stream or beam of arrow-like projectiles or even beasts a la Akainu or Ener? That’s the only arrow they’ll ever need in their quiver.
Now how could you even touch such a hypothetical weapon that’s suffers from random intangibility? Color of Armaments allow the weilder to bypass the fruit’s power and grab the arrow while not harming themselves and still keep the arrow’s ability active. So shooting it only projects its power while the arrow can be regrabbed.
lol I actually mentioned Pluton possibly being a Logia ship or an Anti-DF ship in the other One Piece thread.
top 4 sagas in your opinions? i wanna go back and view some sagas i may have not really payed attention to.