(OLD) Ken General Discussion Thread (Combos, Techniques, etc.)

I absolutely hate that to. That’s why I sometimes quit/stop playing people if I see they mash. [Today I fought someone who mashed through my jabs like four times, and mashed a super between to on player M. even if he is pretty good] On ranked and other modes you come across that A LOT. That’s the only thing that really turns me off in this game, mashers. Most of the times its not even linkage, but just online, and just the fact that not everything links. [Thats literally the only thing, the easy DP counters. If they fixed that this game’d be perfect to me]

Although yea your links need to be tighter, but online tends to mess it up. Dp is VERY fast, and can counter/reversal very easily so you have to be carefull. I got the jab jab shoryuken 100% down, but if I see people mash I sometimes don’t even try it. Just adapt to it.

Try to fight 4 bars, 3 bars is ok but it can sometimes screw it up to. Or practice your links over, cause I mostly don’t have problems doing it even on 3 bars.

Air tatsu I know what you mean. But that’s cause of the spinning/timing. its the same with my normal tatsu crossup, if I start it a bit late it basiclly just misses and a free grab. If I start it a bit earlier it always hits.

Experiment / feel when you should start your tatsu, not to high/far cause the hits will run out before you land.

Damn I gotta meet new good players, ima start challenging some people. I won like 30 times in a row, on ranked, player and champ mode in the morning. Its hard finding good players just randomly online, I gotta meet some kens that are way better then me to learn new things =D

Side note: Zangief is my number 1# hated char. Lol

This. If anyone is interested in teaching a scrub ken on this block a few things then by all means get at me. lol

Gief is a pain, but i think Balrog’s are so much more annoying.:sweat:

I’ll get at you I’ll send you a friend request. send me one and I’ll help you out with the knowledge that i have g tag is Slimztheguy…

Yea when I started, my hate chars where blanka and balrog. Balrog felt like a powerhouse/tank to me. But I learned the matchups and in time he becomes fun to play against.

Focus gets most of his dash punches, baiting out a headbutt is a free punishment as well [Cr. Medium kick dodges his headbutt, and it gives you a counter hit whenever he goes for something else I noticed]. His ultra to headbutt doesn’t do that much damage. Hes not that bad, although I never met a real good balrog (That’s with any char for the matter)

Although good balrogs tend to be very hard yea. I still hate blanka though : D

And been working on those links lately, really loving it, been trying to use them none stop after recorded fights with slimz. On crumple, I tend to go for Cr.Lp x 2, st. Lp, cr. Mk, ex tatsu for practice tooo. And kaarraa throw mixxups.

Is guuuud. And yea I can fight you to Dunskie =D

GT: Ssjbryando, we could play some =] AS LONG AS YOU DON’T MASH :smiley: lol jk

Yeah links are kinda my best friend in sf4 right now… i tend to use all of kens bnb links now that i’m more familiar with them. and im beginning to use c.forward>hado>ex fadc c.forward>ex tatsu/fierce Srk. Standing/crouching, and if im real close to them after the Fadc i’ll link c.lk, c.lp, c.lp, f.srk, fadc>Ultra if its necessary to ultra :cool:

yeah i’ve been looking over our matches bryan and i must admit we’ve both improved from what i’ve seen from our set today. gg’s

Positive rep plz i didnt think i deserved to lose rep for chanting, but i accept my punishment and i’ve learned my lesson. so please anyone in the position to give give me positive. rep plz do so. i don’t like those 5 evil bars

Sure thing. I’ll add you on xbl whenever i actually get on, and i’ll pm you sometime to set those games up.

Yea i can see what you mean. Since i’m in this actual “n00b” stage he’s stilla bastard to me. Omg son, don’t even get me started on Blanka. -_-

I’ll drop both of you a pm sometime so i can learn the ropes.

Lol’d

Cool

Yea I saw you suddenly use Hadoken fadc and tatsu crossup to, I started using that like a week or two ago I think. Mostly works if they got little damage leeft [And just catches them of guard so many ways : D]. Crouch links are still my hardest though, except for jab jab, but I gotta work on my jab jab cr.medium. Even though it works in training. And yea the quick set was cool, although nothing I mostly use works on you cause you block well and know where I attack lol

And yea cool duskie lol sorry : D

Oh well, Ill get there, really want a stick for regular kara-throws though. That seems so cool. I can only do it after a Cr.Medium consistently on pad

And Yea I got like 1 red bar to. I forgot the reason. I think the dude posted ‘‘Fail : )’’

Oh well

yeah i think the red bars are the kens welcoming us Lol. all jokes aside we’ll be getting repped up in no time

umm on topic though yes fadc combo’s will catch other players off gaurd most of the time and if it doesn’t… well at least you looked cool wasting your meter =] lol. but it can put you in a nice place offensively. links are all about your rhythm though, at least that’s how i deal with them. c.lk, c.lp, s.lp, c.mk, EX tatsu is a wnderful thing btw =D.

but get at me duskie I’m usually online all the time. until my semester starts at least

Finally got around to adding both of you.:tup:

Just In case I’m gonna ask you:

You are training your links with the training mode option of autoguard on, right? my game is in spanish so I don’t know the exact name but it’s the guard option that makes the dummy cover after every attack that does’t either combo or link.

Having that on is a must.

Keep polishing those skills dude!

Yeah, sure, wouldn’t make much sense otherwise ^^
My game is german so I don’t know either how it’s called in the US/Uk-version

I trained that cr. p., cr. p., cr. hp, tatsu-combo so hard that I started missing most of the SRK-links :frowning:

If someone is constantly trying to SRK you in your combos/blockstrings, let them! Intentionally break your combo/blockstring and block. Watch them fly into the air and punish!

yeah i started doing that before my block strings were solid. but i don’t really do that now. but that’s a good alternative nonetheless

I do that a lot actually, and counter when they miss a shoryuken. My ground links arn’t THAT consistent, and sometimes you can mash a shoryuken after a cr.B > hadoken (before the hadoken hits) [Ground blockstring] I think slimz did that to me a while back, or G77 a lot, so I just stopped using that and began countering.

You just have to adapt. Although the worse prob is the people that actually know when to do it, or don’t do it everytime on purpose, so you wouldn’t know. But its all good.

You just have to live with it =D I must say though, that 80% of the Ryu’s/Kens I meet are waay to shoryuken happy. But it is a VERY good special, prob one of the best, it has a few frames startup, good priority, fast, and it doesn’t even recover that slow either.

Edit: Damn slimz you went from a 4 bar red, to a 3 bar green nice!

[If only someone could do that to me…HINT HINT] lol jk

Lmao i never noticed that until u said something about my bars. :bgrin:

but on topic. if you’re very, very aggresive(but in control of course) u can kind of tell when some will try and mash a srk through your block strings, thats when you pause your string and wait for the whiffed srk. and punish like its no tmrw at least do that until your comfy with your links. (i still bait out srks during my block strings not all the time though. i try and guess when they’ll go for it.)

Lol. Someone finally got some green.:clapdos:

man i needed that junk bro.

have you been practicing.?,
hit me up today if u wanna get some matches in.

Haha.

Yea, i’ll see what’s up. I’ve been kinda busy lately with stuff so i haven’t gotten around to playing much at all lately.

After this wed i should have some free time on my hands. I’ll drop you a pm though.

Does it take frames to crouch? And does it take more frames from C. Jumping compared to S. Jumping?