hell no man
There are situation when you reversal your dragon punch and it whiff…while in the same situation you do an autocorrect DP timing and hit your opponents crossup and its not a reversal.
btw i dont think this is the case,i cant do that setup with chun-li so who know^^
You don’t see reversal? It might just be the way your opponents are timing their crossovers.
Yeah it depends on timing. so an anti-crossover DP can be a reversal or not. My bad.
Do you have a TRAINING ROOM routine that you do to perfect your execution Dr.Chaos? Example: 50 lk, lp xx srk; etc etc?
It’s quite simple.
What do you suck at? Do that til you don’t suck at it anymore.
Then do everything you can think of. Hit confirms. FADC combos. Counter-hit combos.
It only takes time and effort my friend.
P.S. Chaos is afraid to play me in both HDR and ST.
He knows that I got DAT MANGO RYU!
Hey guys
Is it possible to throw you out of an empty jump shoryu? Say after a few attempts of empty jumping and trying to throw and getting it teched i jump in and shoryu as soon as i can. Can i be thrown before i execute the shoryu?
I was playing a guy yesterday and kept getting thrown/teched when i empty jumped on him and since it was online i’m wondering if it was the lag?
Must have been lag, you can SRK as soon as you land from an empty jump. This also works against people who like to throw pokes at you as you land from a distance.
I’m having a lot of trouble with a turtling honda.
I’ve learnt the hardway jumping is a no-no because of his jumping fierce, and if I get in, I get his ass on my face with that damn orochi throw.
foward mk isn’t very safe to begin with because of the damn headbutt, and the fucker just knows the matchup and techs each and every of my kara-throws.
I was thinking of using a bit more fireball? but it can easily be punished too. Punishing with the focus attacks seemed plausible too, but I’m not too sure.
Help?
Its true that jumping on honda is hard, really mounting an offense on honda is hard but hadoken is truly the key to this fight. You have to learn to zone him and be careful with your hadokens because when he gets a punish it really hurts. FB zone him and low foward as your best footies. If they try to punish your low foward with standing fierce thats when you can focus but other then that please DONT focus because they can simply jab into hhs or headbutt. Best case senario is you force him to jump and you get a dp and a knock down then you can let the cross up shenanigans start (unless he has meter)
To deal with a honda who is nuetral jump fierce happy simply low foward under it. The jumping fierce can’t hit any low kick attacks (not sure about Rh) but yea low foward into hado or apporpriate punish (depending on teh range).
Well the main thing that you need to worry about with ehonda is when he has meter. If he has meter a good honda will always ex headbutt when ever you jump in or cross up. When he has no meter you can do all sorts of cross up stuff.
Side note : Normally if you try to cross up a honda with meter he can ex headbutt auto correct on wakeup. There is one trick that can burn their meter and deal damage, that is to cross up with a short hurricane kick and if you learn the timing it will hit honda in the butt as he ex headbutts and burn his meter. The key is jumping far enough away so that your short hurricane only crosses up at the last second avoiding the auto correct head butt. (warning short hurricane cross up can be punished by honda with a wakeup ultra)
The key for this match up is patience, zone with fb and low foward. Dont miss your opportunity to dp and watch his meter. Hopes this helps
Have u some youtube channels with Ken Top Players?
I need to learn seeing the best Ken, and I don’t have new vids about Dragon Boy.
He is an amazing rushdown player and makes sf4 even LOOK fun as hell. He is what ken is all about
Thanks dude, it actually did. We ended up like 8-10, me down but he raged quitted on me saying I was a fireball whore.
I just don’t know how to handle this shit anymore, you pull 8 hit combos with links, you are a jab spammer, you use shoryuken to punish wrong jump ins? shoryu whore. You throw hadokens? you are a scrub.
Seriously pisses me off.
Take some joy in knowing that those statements are the calling card of the scrub. You should be above the scrub, their cries should not reach you.
IFC Yipes isn’t all that great. Lil Sicx is better.
It’s not that they reach me, it’s just that there isn’t much people to play around these parts and I can’t just tell everyone to go fuck themselves.
Or perhaps I should.
Anyway, thanks man.
Fuck 'em man. They all think they’re so good that they should always get perfects. When they don’t they make up bullshit excuses as to why they had such a hard time or lost. I know it’s hard finding good people to play against that don’t lag but if the person is a douchebag then ditching them isn’t really a huge loss for you.
I get stupid messages a lot. I just respond “Yeah man, ggs” or “Online is srs bizness bro” just as a little fuck you then I block communications because I really don’t care about what they have to say. I just want to play I don’t really care about people’s shit fits about losing or winning.
Nah IFC Yipes isn’t super crazy good but there’s something about his playstyle that I like. I don’t really know what it is but I enjoy watching his matches.
And I’m having a lot of trouble against a good Elf. I’ve fought shitty ones and they’re easy to dispatch but this guy I’m not really sure what to do. I get tortilla’d when I try to poke with cr.mk and when I get pushed in the corner it’s such a PITA to get out. Any tips?
gs man :tup:, and yea that honda sounds very fail
The options i use when they run at me are:
Mix in neutral jump fowards to beat tortilla and the splat grab.
Mix up focus to beat slide, and splat,
and mix up lp.srk to beat slide, splat grab, and tortilla.
When you score a knockdown fuerte can either back dash, ex leg throw, ex run or block:
So you can throw the ex run.
You can over head at a character length away and if they ex leg throw they land in kara throw range, if they dont you score a over head (but its risky).
And of course cross up shenanigans (best when he has no meter) also short cross up is safe against fuertes wakeup ultra.
The other annoying thing about good fuerte’s is sometimes on your jump in they will run and use the tortilla and it makes your jump rh or w/e whiff due to the tortilla out of run. If this happens, right when you land re-jump and if they pursue the re jump then tatsu ect.
And make sure to bait that ultra with various empty jumps, just hold onto some meter and ex tatsu if he activates the ultra.
goodluck cause fuerte is stupid lol
I’ll try neutral jump, normally I jump back fierce but I get caught by the splash, stop+sweep, stop+grab when I land.
I got hit twice by the wakeup ultra when I did jump fp. First time because I didn’t know and the second time because I wasn’t watching the ultra meter :sad:
I never noticed that tortilla thing making my jump-ins whiff. Watching the match he used it and it put him right next to me too! Sometimes I jumped away but I didn’t even notice it being used I just jumped away to get some distance. Thanks for the tip, I’ll look out for that from now on because I always get thrown after that.
Are you sure I can grab ex run during startup? It whiffed when I did it on his wakeup but I might have just been off in my timing.
I guess I just don’t really understand Fuerte.
Thanks :tup:
Against elfs are jumpins a good idea? I played an elf today who back-run -> tortilla’d me everytime i tried. Is it better to shoryu elf to get a KD or use a tatsu combo?
Couldn’t do much when i knocked him down either, mostly he used the ex-guacamole to get distance or ex-run->tortilla and caught me.Also a shoryu after ex-tatsu loses flat to ex-guacamole. But when he knocks me down i’m in deep shit lol. If he manages to bait a reversal DP from me he goes into a rsf loop which really kicks the shit outta me.
Might be my inexperience against elfs but really got my ass kicked today.
Yeah, I played a good elf a few weeks ago, got wrecked. Felt better to know he won the whole tournament, but still. I did not know what to do at all.
Yeah I’d try to avoid jump-ins. Samet hing happened to me, plus when I did air ex tatsu to chase him I would get tortilla’d also. The only thing that worked for me really well when I fought the guy was just to keep moving. Never stop. Jump back, walk around, stuff like that.
Oh what xCPx posted also. Watch out for that stuff.
to flesh this out a bit more, elf really performs much better when he has an opponent in a stable position, it’s a big part of why his oki game is so good. when he is unable to really get a good fix on where your going to be it makes spacing his tricks far harder.
