old and busted

There aren’t any curses in the thread except the spoiler part and it gets right to the point like you wanted for people who aren’t fluent in English.

I just read some of Ono’s tweet and I think his English is not that bad at all. Maybe it was his accent that threw me off in the first place.

So change of plans, tweet Ono about Dudley balance request in v2012 and link him these.

English version:

Japanese version via Google Translate:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://forums.shoryuken.com/t/old-and-busted/132885&sl=en&tl=ja&hl=&ie=UTF-8

I used to work on presenting user data and statistics to large corporations such as Cisco and HP. If you really want to get your points across it’s better done in a well presented Powerpoint in bullet point format with screen grabs, and at most, 5-8 seconds worth of video evidence backing up each point and why the requests are valid.

They aren’t going to sit there for longer than two minutes reading an essay full of whining.

I won’t be dropping Dudley just like I never dropped my Destruction Warlock in WoW. I’ve learned too much to start again with another character. I will be looking at a couple of alts maybe to deal with Bison and the better Chun players here.

Dignity for life. I’m used to tough losses and epic wins, I’m never changing. Not like I’m ever gonna be godlike before this games cycle is over, I might as well stay comfy :slight_smile:

I won’t change from Dudley since he’s the only character that I find to be fun in SF4. I just wish he was better which in turn would make him even more fun.

Btw, Sim is extremely hard to play and is like complete culture shock for anyone who plays rushdown chars.

It would be nice if f.HP was actually a good getting in tool. Rose’s and Ibuki’s slides, Ken’s and Abel’s stepkicks and Cody’s crack kick are excellent examples of such normals. Dudley’s f.HP is the absolute worst example amongst these.

So speed that shit up, give it more frame advantage and give it a bigger hitbox. Reduce the damage if you need to.

Ibuki’s slide is actually punishable on hit if spaced wrong. Just FYI.

If spaced wrong. If spaced right, she wins the game.

Just saying, her slide is not actually all that good of a move. Its all her safe pressure moves that get me in a huff. The slide is almost needlessly risky for her in a lot of situations.

Why would an Ibuki player space it wrong though?

i agree. but i don’t think all that would be necessary. all that really needs to be done is just present a short list of buffs we agree on, have an opening statement that represents the voice of the community at large and closing statement to back up the way we feel about the list and why it would be a good idea. imo the OP is ridiculously long and full of way too much unnesessary stuff.

Give Duds his 3s voice back.

Dear, Ono-San.

We, as the Dudley community of the shoryuken.com forums, feel that the development team has not done Dudley enough justice in the upcoming patch (version.2012). We believe that the list of changes your team has presented for him is insufficient in helping him deal with his unfavorable match ups and fail to address his design flaws. collectively, we have come up with a short list of changes (listed below) that we feel will improve the character and make him more competitive in the upcoming patch. We hope you will take our ideas into consideration.

Thank you,
The Dudley Community

Community Compiled Dudley Change List
[LIST]
[]add Armor Break Properties on Short Swing Blow.
[
]reduce recovery on Short Swing Blow to light:-1, medium:-2, heavy:-3, EX:-2.
[]reduce lower body hurt box of Short Swing Blow on all versions and extend the hitbox size.
[
]reduce recovery on Machine Gun Blow to light:-1, medium-3, heavy-4
[]reduce start up on Cross Counter by 1 frame (2 frame start up).
[
]add Super Armor to EX ducking.
[]reduced pushback on light and medium normal attacks (standing and crouching versions).
[
]increase block stun on crouching light attacks.
[]reduce start up of crouching medium kick by 3 frames.
[
]reduce start up of crouching medium punch by 1 frame.
[]increased forward movement and active frames on towards+medium kick.
[
]increase block stun on standing heavy kick so when cancelled into light ducking it is -1 on block.
[]increased stun on all jumping attacks.
[
]increased hit box on jumping light kick so it works better as a cross up attack.
[*]increase stun on level 1 Focus Attack so it is now -2 on block.
[/LIST]
In conjunction with the list of changes you provided, we feel these buffs are necessary changes to improving his character and balance within the cast. again, we hope you will take our ideas into consideration. Thank you for your time.


i think it would be better if you used this in the OP. it’s a lot more concise, a lot more formal, and a lot more pleasant and less time consuming to read. i took some good changes from the OP and added some stuff i think are necessary that went unmentioned.

duck straight less push back on hit so we can keep pressure or combo after counterhit!..

meh, i’d rather we focus on trying to get dud to be fundamentally stronger instead of having more ways to start combos.

it would. EX duck straight to break down focus happy users and if we some how get regular duck into straight to punish focus users it’d be extremely helpful to break those guys down they’d atleast take over 250 for trying to focus our st.hp f.hp.

They wouldn’t. That is why one plays the footsie game. To get your opponent to make the wrong move. If you can bait them into throwing out slides and space yourself better than they space themselves, you will be able to punish even on hit.

As for that list of requests. I just want a faster cr. MK at the top of that list =)

i don’t think that buff is really necessary though. this buff seems a lot like ryu getting counter hit EX fireball FADC U2. it’d be nice to have but it definitely won’t be the improvement dud needs. if we were only allowed 1 thing off the list, i’d hate for it to be this.

regardless we need to hurry up. development is winding down and the next loc test is in 4 weeks.

who broke srk

why is it so slow

yea, I understand we’ll just work with what was mentioned. I’m the only dudley that would die for those buffs though +DDDDDD