old and busted

Reewind · November 1, 2011, 12:44am

oh you.

MeLLoW · November 1, 2011, 12:55am

LMAO @

http://gamingowl-forums.1049055.n5.nabble.com/file/n4411328/Kappa.png

cHaotix · November 1, 2011, 2:08am

Mr.X:

-Faster walkspeed
** -Reduce hurtbox on a lot of moves like s. HK, s.HP, f. MK, cr. HK, f. HK,**
** -More reach on crHK, crMK, f. MK, cr. MP, s. MP**
** -Make f.HK s.HK link work more reliably**
** -Normal hitstun and block stun on all 4 jumping hard attacks, feels like I’m jumping in with jMK**
** -Less pushback on block on lights, less pushback on jumping hards on hit and block**
** -Make SSB better, all versions = same damage, 0 on block, +2 on hit, armor break, MK and HK dip further back while retaining same speed, +4/+5 on CH instead of techable knockdown, EX SSB same speed as LK SSB with MK SSB dip**
** -EX Jet Upper 3 frame start up like HP JU**
** -Make Rose Toss (down+HP+HK) more like it was in 3rd Strike**
** -Neutral jHK 110 like diagonal jHK instead of 90**

I bolded the important ones

That’s a pretty broken character right there. This stuff right here would be good:

** -Reduce hurtbox on a lot of moves like s. HK, s.HP, f. MK, cr. HK, f. HK,**
** -More reach on crHK, crMK, f. MK, cr. MP, s. MP**
** -Make f.HK s.HK link work more reliably**
** -Normal hitstun and block stun on all 4 jumping hard attacks, feels like I’m jumping in with jMK**
** -Less pushback on block on lights, less pushback on jumping hards on hit and block**
** -Make SSB better, all versions = same damage, 0 on block, +2 on hit, armor break, MK and HK dip further back while retaining same speed, +4/+5 **

That stuff alone would make him pretty damn strong. Honestly, I just want them to make his hitboxes hit where they actually look like they do. cr and stand jab, Kidney Blow, cr. mk.

mowr · November 1, 2011, 2:34am

Try it out against Ryu.

Reewind · November 1, 2011, 5:54am

do you mean trying to catch/trade his pokes with cr.hk? if it’s something ryu specific then i would like to know, i could always use some more in depth ryu matchup.

by the way today is monday and if you guys read what xenon212 and i were planning tonight then it would be awesome if you guys join in and send the dudley request to capcom.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/street_fighter/go/thread/view/7411/28242311/To_Capcom_and_Ono-San,is_it_alright_if_we_take_a_little_of_your_time-_From_the_Dudley_Community?pg=1

go in there if you want to show your support. for some reason i made this thread eons of years earlier than other character request threads but it has the least views and comments compared to those one liner thread that starts and ends in “pls”. i had to bump it every once in while when it got to page 5, i feel bad that i had to do this. is it because no one really cares about dudley in general or was the community that small in the first place?

Spoiler

This is just a reminder.

I hope most of us are doing our part letting the SF4 developers and Ono know that they should reconsider Dudley’s changes in the upcoming patch.

To simplify things, just message/send/copy paste this message to people you want to send to.

Dear, (name of the recipient).

We, as the Dudley community of the shoryuken.com forums, feel that the SF4 team has not done Dudley enough justice in the upcoming patch (version.2012). We believe that the list of changes the developers have presented for him is insufficient in helping him deal with his unfavorable match ups and fail to address his design flaws. Collectively, we have come up with a short list of reasonable changes (listed below) that we feel will improve the character and make him more competitive in the upcoming patch.

English
http://bit.ly/p8tKd6

Japanese
http://bit.ly/qV6Wht

We’re sure you get tons of scrubby messages like this all the time, but hopefully this time would be different. Hopefully this gets passed on to Q&A and the developers would at least consider some of the changes. If nothing else, thanks for hearing us out.

List of people you could send this too:

Capcom staffs:

Seth Killian
http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill

GregaMan
http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman

Sven
http://www.capcom-unity.com/sven

Twitter version:

Ono’s Twitter
twitter.com/#!/yoshi_onochin

Capcom’s Twitter
twitter.com/#!/capcom_unity

SF4 Community Twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/SF_Community

Reewind · November 1, 2011, 9:32pm

not one single “i did it” reply from anyone
ano kimochi

Reewind · November 7, 2011, 12:35pm

added more useless stuffs in recommended section

Reewind · November 13, 2011, 7:15am

I made a suggestion on Capcom-Unity, it needs your votes.

http://ideas.capcom-unity.com/index.php?page=1&num=5&cat=Games&subcat=Street Fighter&type=

Please get involved.

[details=Spoiler]
This is just a reminder.

I hope most of us are doing our part letting the SF4 developers and Ono know that they should reconsider Dudley’s changes in the upcoming patch.

To simplify things, just message/send/copy paste this message to people you want to send to.

Dear, (name of the recipient).

We, as the Dudley community of the shoryuken.com forums, feel that the SF4 team has not done Dudley enough justice in the upcoming patch (version.2012). We believe that the list of changes the developers have presented for him is insufficient in helping him deal with his unfavorable match ups and fail to address his design flaws. Collectively, we have come up with a short list of reasonable changes (listed below) that we feel will improve the character and make him more competitive in the upcoming patch.

English
http://bit.ly/p8tKd6

Japanese
http://bit.ly/qV6Wht

We’re sure you get tons of scrubby messages like this all the time, but hopefully this time would be different. Hopefully this gets passed on to Q&A and the developers would at least consider some of the changes. If nothing else, thanks for hearing us out.

List of people you could send this too:

Capcom staffs:

Seth Killian
http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill

GregaMan
http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregaman

Sven
http://www.capcom-unity.com/sven

Twitter version:

Ono’s Twitter
twitter.com/#!/yoshi_onochin

Seth’s Twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/sethkillian

Capcom’s Twitter
twitter.com/#!/capcom_unity

SF4 Community Twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/SF_Community

[details=Spoiler]

MrPavy · November 14, 2011, 4:44am

im ass at the game but i want my favorite character to get some love

cHaotix · November 22, 2011, 2:23am

Here are my impressions from the 2012 PC mod that Yeb made:

me:

Thanks for posting this up man. Obviously, things like walk speed and hitboxes wouldn’t be as accurate as Capcom’s final build but I’ll assume everything in your build is a best case scenario.

I messed with Dudley, Cody and Cammy for about an hour and a half. Obviously Yeb isn’t working with an exact build but it’s close enough for you to get an idea of what 2012 will be like.

With Dudley the most significant change would be to his cr mk, which actually feels noticeably faster. Counter-hit RH. trap is good to have back, but the timing to hit a jab or another RH after an empty duck seems way tighter than it was in Super. Either way, it’s a good tool to have and I’m glad he has it again.

Rose FADC seems pretty useless outside of beating focus xx backdash and armor command grabs. I tested for a long time against Balrog’s EX dash punches and the tracking on the rose isn’t good enough to hit them consistently. The hit stun on the rose itself is horrible and will actually leave you negative if you hit an opponent with a meaty attack first and rose second. You have to hit with the rose first then your meaty normal if you want to actually net anything.

The Ultra I change is kind of meh as well. It’s still doesn’t punish Chun backdash but I guess it should catch focuses and armor attacks easier? The first 5 punches come out really fast.

The changes to short swing blow aren’t even noticeable. And with HP Jet Upper I could punish Makoto’s EX Hayate at all ranges except full screen. Still doesn’t punish Balrog dash straight though. If Dudley’s changes only amount to this then I think he’s still going to be pretty bad. What he really needs is hitbox adjustments on his normals and focus and maybe a frame shaved off of his forward dash. I’ve still got my fingers crossed that they’re adding some last minute changes.

Yeah, personally I think he’s still needs hitbox adjustment on all his moves with false advertising (Forward MK, Focus attack, cr. jab etc) and if you’re spending bar to drop a rose it needs to at least break armor. Ultra 1 can still punish Bison Psycho crushers.

Mr.X · November 22, 2011, 8:16pm

He mod’d AE to reflect the ver 2012 changes?

Amazing.

Can you check out how the U1 if all hits hit airborne and see if that was as bad as I assumed it would be?

Oh man I wish I had my PC up and AE PC and the knowledge to do this. I’d experiment with the buffs I suggested like CH SSB not knocking down and faster walkspeed.

cHaotix · November 22, 2011, 9:08pm

Ultra 1 only hits air borne opponents starting after the first hit. You can juggle Cr. RH > Ultra 1 or EX MGB > Ultra 1 and you get like 2 hits for ass damage. You don’t even get a meaty rose setup. I’m guessing Capcom’s build would be different as this is pretty ass.

somepunk · November 24, 2011, 11:32am

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Interesting.

MrPavy · November 26, 2011, 11:10am

St.mp into cr.rh omfg

somepunk · November 27, 2011, 1:11am

Man, if you like that, I’m going to make your brain implode, that stuff is NOTHING compared to what I got in the pipeline.

MrPavy · November 27, 2011, 1:47am

I cant wait

Thirtyfour · November 27, 2011, 2:01am

wait til I show you them in real (online) matches
also wait for tut on FADC rose

somepunk · November 27, 2011, 3:01am

you gonna release it pre-2012?

Reewind · November 30, 2011, 10:53am

thread updated, made it a whole lot cleaner
added final dudley changes section
why do i even bother at this point
YOU LIED TO ME SVEN
good night sweet prince

East · November 30, 2011, 11:19am

Some info Capcom did not share with us:

Dudley is -2 after a Lv 1 Focus Attack.

From that you can infer that he is +4 on a Lv 2 Focus Attack
It also means his forward dash was reduced by 1 frame, making it’s total duration from 18.

Do with that information what you would like. That’s my useful post for the month.