Official Starcraft Thread

how can you not like youtube? they got good quality AND good commentators…

anyways…

lets just say… hwaseung = fail

Learn how to play (build orders, counters, mind games/how to fake, etc). Upload your replays and let people point out where you fail.

yeah seriously. Youtube has pretty much all you need. ALL the proleauge and starleague matches are uploaded w/in a day. Granted now all of them have english commentary…

I literally cried with laughter after watching this replay.

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=22184

someone rigged a Destination map and still lost. I’m not going to spoil the details but it’s a 10/10 must watch.

That wasn’t funny it was just disgraceful. He should be ban from SC. That was worst than hacking.

That guy should be banned from life.

teamliquid was dying after watching that replay.

Everything about the replay was 10/10

the zerg player ranting
the map layout
the terran fail

Seriously. So many retards trying to cheat thinking they’re omg gg pwn leet.

Hopefully SC2 will be expensive, that way when retards get banned they won’t easily buy another copy.

Where do they hold the OSL and MSL tournament? Are they located at in Seoul?

I remember once going to this mall and seeing Starcraft matches being played on huge TV screens inside of a mall, but that was a while back…

Yes in Seoul.

That is the culture there. Not just mall, even in airport. There are 24hr SC matches running daily, was then and still now.

On another note, WCG matches are up on youtube. They feature Jaedong, Stork, but no bisu yet. As expected they laid waste to everyone in their pool.

[media=youtube]vHcpB7tmPts[/media] this one had me lol. Can believe the noob stuff they try to pull in WCG.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/vods/nospoiler

have fun :slight_smile: you can search TLPD by player, map, league, matchup, whatever. they’re direct rips of the korean cable broadcasts, so there’s no english commentary (which I’m not a fan of :P)

lol… that’s just sad. He really thought he could pull this off on Stork?

JD vs Stork step by step (mostly)

Stork dropped four zealots into JD’s main, sniped the Spire.
Jaedong countered by killing a Forge and is currently taking out Stork’s front gateway.
However, JD lost a lot of drones to dark templars.
His lurkers get pushed off before they can take out the gateway.
JD snipes some observers but loses his lurker force.

High templars and speedlots are prepping for a timing push, while Stork is scrambling out two shuttles carrying I assume high temps.
Shuttle unloads HTs on JD’s expo, kills a little.
JD is very far behind due to a DT sniping 13 drones.
Stork is hesitating with his attack.
He pushes into the lurkers.
Loses virtually all of his zealots.
His army is now Dragoons and a few HTs.
Jaedong crushes the attack. Stork got overconfident.
However, it’s 3-base Stork vs 4-base Jaedong.
Economically they’re just about tied, with JD still being behind due to drone losses even though he has the bases up, his saturation is low.
Stork, however, just expoed, so he now has to replenish his army as well as finish saturating the mineral line.
Minor skirmish in the center, nothing special.
They’re both just macroing up.
Stork is still, however, 10 supply up.
JD hits Hive tech and moves to take his fifth.
Stork is taking his fourth.
Stork scrambling a shuttle.
Assuming storm drop on the main.
OOH.
Jaedong snipes it.

We’ll never know what was in it.

Supply is now even.
Armies meet in the center.
Stork has much better positioning.
Jaedong pulls off, smartly.
Stork is putting pressure on the main/natural, because he doesn’t want his 4th to get hit.
Jaedong is forced to defend.
A few good storms will fuck him up pretty harshly.
JD wastes a few storms.
Kills a good number of lurkers, loses a lot of zealots.
Stork is holding a bridge, so JD can’t really attack hi mwithout being in a bad position.
JD goes for it.
Like a fucking boss.
Snipers out the observers with his scourges.
Crushes the army with just balls-out pushing, since Stork wasted all of his storms in the earlier skirmish.
He drops DTs into the natural. It gets crushed.
DT in the main, no response by JD yet.
It kills 2, 3, 4 drones.
JD is pushing onto Stork’s 4th.
However, a fuckton of high temps show up.
JD has pulled ahead in supply.
Storms melt quite a few hydras.
Jaedong just mass-morphs a bunch of lurkers, lol.
Half a screen from Stork’s army.
Don’t give a fuck lurker morph.
JD pushes into Stork’s third.
DEfiler/Crackling rape.
It’s going down.
Stork counter-pushes JD’s 5th.
No observers, the lurkers will hold easily.
Stork lost his 3rd, JD holds his 5th.
It’s 20 minutes in.
JD is hitting Stork’s 4th.
It looks like it’s going down to the cracklings.
Nope, he holds.
Stork had to run his army through a nest of lurkers.
OH SHIT.
JD KILLS FUCKING FIVE HIGH TEMPLARS.
SIX.
HOLY SHIT.
Stork’s templars were on the way to help the 5th and JD just raped them all with lings.

Stork holds his 4th, but he’s only on two actual bases for mining, so he’s now behind.
Stork drops into JD’s main and kills the ultra cavern.
GGs when he tries to push 5th and sees the nydus.
30 cracklings pull out and he types out before his units even die.

Stork fucked up hard. He had that game but he let his army get crushed, and then tried to trade bases but botched it.

Game 2

Stork does an early zealot push.
Kills nothing.
JD eats it.
Stork transitions to a safe wall-in.
Haha they fixed the overlay.
First game just displayed the unit/mineral counts by nationality, which was silly I had to decipher which KOR was who.
Now it’s KOR_Z and KOR_P.
Stork is pushing out with a zealot timing attack.
Nothing has really happened and the game’s already 13 minutes long? Wow.
Can’t Be.
It’s gotta be fast.
It’s only like 10 minutes.
Stork pushes in with his zeglings.
They kill the SHIT out of the zerglings due to +1 attack.
Looks like he’s going for the spire.
Jd hatches more lings.
And barely kills them.
Five zealots pushed into JD’s main, and got killed by freshly hatched lings before they could snipe the spire, just to recap.
Stork trying to harass with a DT.
Doesn’t go in, too risky.
Kills a few tertiary lings.
JD almost kills a lone dragoon, it pulls back in time.
Stork is concentrating on high templars. He has the D: face.
JD’s supply is way, way behind Stork’s.
20 behind.
Now it’s 56-70.
It’s weird how JD keeps his supply so low.
You figure Zerg should have more than Protoss.
Haha. Stork uses a probe to block a pair of lurkers, letting his dragoons snipe one before they can burrow.
Second one dies summarily.
JD moving in with a muta group.
He’s going for some templar snipes it seems.
Here it goes.
One Temp.
Two temps.
Three temps.
FOUR.
The mutas get shredded.
Only one survives the post-templar sniping scouting.
Stork has four new temps.
Not a lot of energy so they probably won’t be too great against the incoming Zerg
Stork finally has his third.
At 15 (18 according to overlay) minutes.
JD going for a drop.
Stork spots it.
Looks like Stork’s men will make it in time.
OH SHIT.
HE MOVES TO INTERCEPT INSTEAD OF REINFOCE.
TOO SLOW.
JD DROPS ONTO THE SECOND.
JD is simultaneously pushing the third.
Terrible lurker placement.
One storm stops the attack.
JD snipes another templar.
Two.
Storms wreck JD’s army despite the snipes.
Looks like Stork will hold easily.
Oh wow.
This whole time, Jaedong’s lurkers have been keeping Stork from mining from his second.
So nevermind!
JD is not behind.
JD is pushing the front while dropping (lurkers I assume) in the main.
Yep lurkers.
Stops the mining at the main, snipes a DT (that’s weird).
Huge Storm.
Took out 1/3 of JD’s hydras.
However, his remaining forces mop up the dragoons.
Snipes another temp.
Stork is once again only mining on two bases.
Jaedong lost 15 supply, Stork lost about 30 in that fight.
So now they’re 70-78.
JD really needs a fourth.
So does Stork, frankly.
But more so Jaedong.
Jaedong is going for another drop.
He’s going for the second; Stork’s entire army is at the third.
HE scouts the drop, again.
JD backs off the drop.
Stork is pushing out.
Stork is cannon rushing JD’s fourth.
Overlord spots it.
Storm drop on JD’s natural wipes out all the drones.
7 kills
He takes out the cannon rush.
Archon takes out four more drones.
So, 7+4 drones with that templar drop.
Stork attacking JD’s 4th.
JD takes out Stork’s 4th before it gets off the ground but it looks like he’s going to lose his.
Needs that 4th like I need soda.
JD snipes a shuttle.
Stork double-storms the fuck outta JD’s army at 4th.
Stork setting up another 4th.
Right next to JD’s 4th, so, he’s counting on it falling.
JD doesn’t have enough scourge for the observers, and yet is STILL driven off by the lurkers coming out of the nydus.
God Damn.
Stork keeps almost destroying the 4th.

JD is 40 supply down.
So he’s holding but he’s seriously not winning this war.
Stork loses another shuttle to the snipe.
However two DTs deploy.
Stork pushing in for the kill.
They’re both low on bases and cash.
So this is probably the final fight.

JD deploys his swarms too late…
Stork probably has this game.
Huge storm knocks out three lurkers
JD will tap out any second now I imagine.
Oh Shit
FRESH lings flank the dragoons.
However Stork is reinforcing with a ton of archons.
God Damn.
JD holds the attack.
69-101 supply.
However, this second push is going to hurt.
Zealot/archon push.
Looks like JD will lose his third.
Wow.
Stork keeps not killing bases.
What the fuck.
He had seven archons in JD’s third.
And JD kills it.
What, the fuck, Stork.
I mean, I’m rooting for JD, but he keeps doing GAME WINNING SITUATIONS
And then doesn’t win.
Stork delays JD’s 5th.

61-90 supply.
Looks like they’re going to fight over the 4th.
Jaedong sees the incoming DT at his second and only loses three drones.
Storm drop on the 4th.
8+ drones killed.
Stork will probably win this now.
JD lurker drops Stork’s 5th, takes out 5 probes.
Looks like JD will try and crush Stork’s 5th.
Defiler/ling push against zeal/archon.
JD’s 5th is up.
JD’s 4th and 5th are a screen away from Stork’s 4th.
So they’re glaring at each other right now.
Stork pushes.
He kills a defiler with his zealots.
What the hell?
OH SHIT.
JD kills 12 probes with another lurker drop.
Stork was so busy killing the defiler he ignored his mineral line.
Stork storm drops JD’s line.
Takes out about five.
Combined kill count on the templars is 13 drones though.
Stork Pushes
Fuckton of lurkers, but they get mopped up even through the observer snipe.
Storms the hell out of the Nydus Canal.
Stork will take the fourth I hope.
JD is at 24 supply.
AND HE HOLDS.
He has TWO ZERGLINGS LEFT.
JD is out of probes and units.
OH SHIT WORKERS.
JAEDONG IS BARELY MINING.
However, this game is super over.
24-76 supply.
Jaedong taps out.

Jesus Christ.
Jaedong is tenacious with base defense, he does NOT fucking give up bases.

Final match will be on Destination.

ZvP is dead even on Destination.
JD is 70% on Destination.
Stork is 82% on Destination.
Oh snap
JD and Stork are 8-8 career-wise.
So, dead even race-wise, dead even head-to-head, and both on a map they’re good at.
God damn son.
This should be intense.

Game start.

Jaedong top, Stork bottom.
JD overpooling.
Stork’s tech yet a mystery.
Probe harassing JD’s expansion probe.
It flees like a bitch.
Stork fast expanding.
JD fakes out expanding on the other direction, then takes his natural anyway.
Korean commentators are SCREAMING.
JD takes an early third and an early gas.
Stork has only one cannon.
JD fucking balls out speedling pushes.
Probes block for the cannon.
The lings take that shit out anyway.
However only one ling survives.
Stork starts cannoning up.
JD loses a ling to a probe.
JD is pretending to all in.
But he’s actually droning up.
Stork’s second gas isn’t’ up yet due to him preparing for Jaedong’s attack-that-isn’t-coming.
So JD is ahead.

Supply 30-36.
JD is behind on supply but Zerg always is.
However, Stork prepared his defense over teching up.
So JD is ahead.
JD drone drills in and kills three zealots and a dragoon.
Traded three-four drones.
Rapes another zealot.
33-34.
Jaedong’s scourges BARELY miss sniping the sair.
Stork is going Corsair/Reaver.
Jd pushes on the natural.
Killing the assimilator.
Assimilator is down.
Hehe Stork keeps rebuilding the assimilator.
Loses a zealot.
The lings keep taking it down again.
He’s given up rebuilding it for now.
Jaedong has a bunch of hydras now.
Stork reavers off the zerglings.
His second assimilator is finally rebuilding.

50-50 supply.
That’s bad for Protoss.
Stork’s trying to hit JD’s third.
Uh oh.
Shuttle takes 30 damage.
Stork has to get outta dodge.
UH OH SCOUGE.
Shuttle gets speed upgrade just in time.
God damn.
JD is pushing main.
Heavy hydra bust.
Jaedong backs off quickly.
Snipes a corsair with hydra clump.
Damages the cloud.
(of corsairs).
Stork has two reavers now.

72-67 supply.
His sairs wipe out a bunch of overlords.
3 or so and loses two corsairs.
One to hydras, one to scourge.
JD is now heavy negative in supply.

75/53 due to all of the overlords just dying.
And he’s back in the black.
Wow that crowd.
Stork loses a reaver.
However JD kills the observer too.
STORK’S ARMY MELTS
TO A HYDRA FUCKING RAPEFIST.

77-54 supply.
JD TRANSITIONS TO A DROP.
DROPS ONTO STORK’S MAIN.
HE HAS ONLY ONE CANNON.
CORSAIRS ARE TRYING TO TAKE OU TTHE OVERLODRS
NO DICE
GATEWAY GOES DOWN.
JAEDONG JUST KEEPS DROPPING.
REAVER UP HTE RAMP.
TAKES OUT FOU HYDRAS
GETS EXPLODED.
STORK GGS.

Lurkers and hydras all over his god damn base.
Jaedong takes WCG.
This just in, Artosis and Tasteless are gay for one another.

Game 2 was some of the most amazing Starcraft ever. Stork’s psi storms were spot on pretty much every time.

The outcome was expected, but Stork did better against Jaedong than I expected.

can anyone link me to some epic starcraft games with english commentary?

While we’re talking about WCG [media=youtube]tGGkvbQHXWc[/media]

Outside of this link I can’t recommend English commented matches because I watch either .rep or Korean broadcasts. WCG match one commentary made mistakes…

Haven’t had time to watch the WCG matches yet (sunday = football), but it sounding real good. :smokin:

Edit: Okay so I watched the games, and yes they were very good. =) Stork get 2nd for the 45465454th time. :rofl: Oh and China is crazy. Damn 15,000 people there to watch that shit? Imagine how hype EVO would be if it was in China. :rofl:

I’d kill to go back in time and immerse myself in the sea of over 100,000 people at the PL grand finals a couple years back

god i love this fucking game

step by step
It’s Calm vs Best.

Calm is opening with a 9-pool.
But he seems to be fast expanding.
Yeah, there’s the forge.
Calm went 9-pool 12(?)-hatch.
Best drops one cannon. Calm’s first two lings start playing chase-the-probe.
Calm is ninja expoing at a third base.
It’s Match Point, a four-player space map.
Calm bottom left (and now top left) and Best top right.
Protoss seems to be going sair/something.
He’s double gassing so I’d assume sair/DT.
Calm just hit lair tech, getting a spire.
No actual combat has taken place. Best’s scout probe is finally dying.
It gets in a final view of Calm’s expo before biting it.
Calm drops a fourth hatch at his ninja expo.
First corsair is out, beelines for Calm’s expo.
Sees Calm’s fifth hatch going up.
However, he thinks it’s 3-hatch hydra.
It’s actually 5-hatch hydra.
Uh oh.
His corsairs are going to the top left.
They see the ninja expo.
Best starts cannoning up his main.
And drops two more gateways.
He starts a push onto the map with 3 dragoons and 3 zerglings, zealots rather.
He walks back and forth between the mid and his expo.
Nothing too exciting. Corsairs and scourge playing cat and mouse
Looks like he’s actually going for a push.
He’s attacking the third expo.
It’s spotted, but the scourge fail to take down any corsairs.
Seven hydras on D versus five dragoons and 2 zealots. Best pulls back.
Scout zerglings keep running into the Protoss squad and getting pasted.
However, a large number of hydralisks just booked it out of the third expo and are making a presence on the map for Calm.
Still just one cannon at his expo.
I don’t know how Best is going to hold this.
He’s massing dragoons, taking his third.
Hydras are going to step all over his shit.
What is he doing?
Corsairs snipe an overlord and flee from scourge. Scourge kill one or two. I didn’t see it because the stream froze but the commentators all went OOOH and then there were no more scourge.
Best’s templar archives are up.
Hydralisks are massed in the center.
Best drops four cannons at his expo.
(By the way this channel doesn’t show supply. That’s why I didn’t know what the timing on the hatch was. Looked like 12, couldn’t see supply so I was unsure.)

Hydras are outside of Best’s third.
He has four cannons, a dozen dragooons, and two new temps.
Calm goes lolol push and starts raping shit.
A storm drops.
Two storms. A bunch of hydras die, however the cannons are all down.
Calm starts fucking up goons. Three are down.
Calm pulls back. Reinforcements are en route.
A boatload of reinforcements.
The overlord gets sniped. Best has one DT, but it isn’t fighting.
More dragoons die.
A cannon finishes and dies instantly.
The hydralisks are just melting Best’s army.

Why the fuck would you mass dragoons against hydra you dumb bitch?
Archon pops.
He has one templar with energy left.
Now zero temps and hydras just pour in.
Three zealots versus six hydras.
Looks like the expo will die unless Best can reinforce.
Calm pulls back.
Calm is hesitating.
He’s sitting outside an undefended expo.
He dodges a storm perfectly.
Snipes an archon. Snipes a HT. Best’s army is now zealot/archon, which is finally smart.

But the expo bites it instantly.
As soon as Calm stops being a little bitch.
Calm is taking his fourth base I believe.
A lone DT goes out to harass while Best prepares his zealot/archon army.
Yeah, Calm is transferring drones now.
There’s definitely a fourth.
The DT is spotted, I think.
The drones chagne direction to avoid it.
The fourth base is confirmed.
DT gets 2 kills. 3. No 4
Calm is holding right outside of what used to be Best’s third.
He has the high ground and is content to hold. The zealots charge out.
Calm scatters and flees.
DT is at half health, with 4 kills.
DT is dead.

As soon as it dies, Best pulls his army back.
Starts rebuilding his third. Calm has lurkers now. Best has an observer out. Nospeed yet.
Calm still at Lair tech. He’s dropping! Or, just bringing a huge number of ovies with his army. I ASSUME it’s a drop, might not be.
Best’s third just came back online. Their armies miss each other.
Calm charges into the third and levels it instantly, Best is meanwhile attacking Calm’s fourth. Calm moves his army back to defend.
He has one sunken, a few lurkers who just got sniped adn some hydras.
Stormmmmm. The hydras melt more lurkers show.
A second sunken spawns, way too late.
Calm keeps channeling reinforcements in and they just get psi stormed to pieces.
Calm’s expo-crushing party is finally back for the defensive action.
They snipe some high temps. Three in fact and start wrecking the dragoons and archons. All zealots seem to be dead.
So Calm should be able to hold this if he gets more hdyras in buuut his reinforcements are flanked by zealots. They’re quickly surrounded and cut to ribbons.

However, Best “only” has six dragoons left + zealots.
Calm’s third (and two hatcheries) bite it.
Calm counter-pushes, but his hydras run into zealots and are forced to retreat.
Best loses a few more dragoons to the hydralisks.
Calm is going to get sliced apart by zealots due to lack of lurkers and he’s losing his fourth too.
It’s down.
Best has set his third up again and Calm is on the retreat.
Calm folds.
Dumb nigga stopped making lurkers and got run over by zealots.
What the fuck was he using his gas for?

Best won
He just spammed zealots and straight won versus the hydra army.

Edit:
**Calm just dropped like three ELO ranks.
He went from #3, ahead of Jaedong, to #7, behind JD, fantasy, Stork, and Effort.
#1, sadly. It’s Flash->Jaedong->Bisu for top three.
Effort is, however, ahead of Jaedong and that’s just wrong Bisu being ahead makes sense because he’s rockin’ Proleague while JD is fucking napping.

But Effort?

Really?
He beat Jangbi, Light, free, and Zero. Those wins don’t mean shit, Light, sure. Light is spectacularly good considering how much his team sucks. But come the fuck on.
**

I turned the MSL stream off when I saw it was PvZ. Terran player I am!