If Makoto does EX Hayate perfectly spaced at max range, then yeah she’ll push you out of cr.MP range. But other than that, you can almost always punish with cr.MP xx lk Spiral xx Super.
It’s -4 on block and cr.MP has 4f startup. That means it’s a 1f link.
so you’ve never ever got hit by that when you’ve tried to walk forward before? right bro. no one said i cant react to it.
are you gonna compare lunge to fei lp rekkas now and say im on drugs for getting hit by those too? lmao. fuckin everyone gets hit by lp rekkas sometimes. lunge def not so much but you act like you have to be asleep to get hit by that. for the record i play viper. it happens. if i walk a tit and buffer a seismo feint and he lunges i can be hit. forum monsters acting like they’ve never got hit by an ex lunge before. too funny.
Which is why I suggested you change how it travels instead of what happens when you block it to keep the move you know… functional?
I’m not saying EX Lunge isn’t good, but it isn’t a functional move outside of combos if it’s - on block, and Yun is going to be nerfed, at least keep him somewhat good and let him have tools. If you take everything away from a character you end up with a crappy character.
ex lunge goes fairly far in 17 frames before it becomes active and it travels extremely quickly. If you keep it + frames but change the distance it travels and change the travel speed of the move ever so slightly to adjust for the nerfed distance you make it easier to react to if you try to hit later in the active frames, keep the functionality, and it still works in combos(which is why you don’t want to nerf the startup) but you have to be a bit smarter about how you use it and have to space it better to try to hit earlier in the animation. Making Yun gamble a little more but still getting rewarded is better than making him never ex lunge again.
I’m more stressed about meter build/damage/unblockable divekicks than ex lunge though. If he’s resorting to that to get in, I’m controlling the pace of the match.
Obviously I have been randomly hit by it while walking forward, but that’s pretty rare. There is always enough time to block. That shit still has some 12-14 startup frames.
And of course lp rekka is like 3x faster, that’s exactly why I said that if you were getting frequently hit by ex lunge then you’re never gonna make it against fei long.