Official SRK Ultra SF4 Rebalance Request Thread

[Lost_Fragment]

Yeah she can kill quickly if she gets in. But I mean, who does she really beat other than characters who clearly need help anyway? I think she loses to very strong offensive characters now and she probably won’t do too well against strong defensive and mid range characters too if they get un-nerfed, which they apparently are. Imo she’s gonna need a little bit of improvement to keep up. But yeah I don’t think it’d be too much of a problem if she stayed the same. If she gets nerfed she could be in trouble but that seems unlikely.

The only characters you see in tournaments often that she beats decisively IMO are Seth and Sim. Especially Sim. She probably won that match in Super even. The only other tourney character I can think of that she might have a decisive edge over is Abel, but that’s based mostly on what I’ve heard good Abels say. I think that match is one of those where whoever gets the first knockdown wins. I think she beats Guile too as-is, but I’m not too sure that’s a popular opinion.

I think she goes even with most of the rest of the cast, with obvious exceptions. She probably gets beaten by the twins pretty bad, but moreso by Fei. She might do a bit better against him after the patch, but he’ll probably still give her problems because Fei/Mak is probably a 7-3 as-is. Makoto really needs to have a presence in mid range to do well, and Fei controls that space so well that it’s tough for her to really get much going.

[mowr]

It’s not too late to make Dudley a genuinely good character, Capcom.

[Ellipsen]

Wait, did they even fix yangs wakeup invincible glitch?

[Ayma]

lmao don’t act like you know nothing, all Yangs are abusing these shit, maybe except noob Yang like D_Dollars lol

1. nerf his palm, hitbox, damage, as well as the meter gain-- Yang’s palm is even more powerful than’s Yun’s, just simply ridiculous, nerf is necessary
2. nerf dive kick, put a height restriction, nerf the +frame-- Yang’s dive kick has more +frame that Yun’s, fast come out lower than 3s, don’t forget some characters are unblockable on wake-up, if Yun’s needs to nerf divekick, so does Yangs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TqhdDjlHvw
3. nerf invi during wake-up (this is more like a bug…)-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LzurjG0dXE
4. nerf ex command throw, remove the throw invi-- why are the twins SO POWERFUL? because they are godlike in rushdown AND they have a command throw!! A “throw-invi” command throw… wtf is this, Capcom may as well delete Abel
5. nerf standing lp, can’t hit crouch opponent-- I don’t see Capcom’s logic, they take this away from boxer, and give this to Yang… who else can do such bullshit in the cast?
6. nerf standing lk cancel–this is just as op as vanilla Sagat’s standing lk, and safer & easier than Ryu’s cr. mk>fireball…

So all these moves got nerfed… Maybe not standing lp and the wake up bug? lol at those idiots who think these moves are not OP~

[Teh_Axi]

if she got buffed and lost nothing she could move straight into S tier

Well I dunno about that but it seems everyone was right to some extent.

[Continuity]

lolwut more nerf on Makoto’s EX Karakusa range? That thing already has so little range it looks like Makoto is grabbing with her nose, how can you nerf that? Make the hitbox come out from her back or something?

[Eternal]

lolwut more nerf on Makoto’s EX Karakusa range? That thing already has so little range it looks like Makoto is grabbing with her nose, how can you nerf that? Make the hitbox come out from her back or something?

Grabs with her well toned ass muscles.

[Raas]

lolwut more nerf on Makoto’s EX Karakusa range? That thing already has so little range it looks like Makoto is grabbing with her nose, how can you nerf that? Make the hitbox come out from her back or something?

Woah it was only .84 before. I gotta say it never felt that way. I can kinda agree with the nerf anyway since its just there to reduce grabbing people out of pokes which was kinda a strange thing anyway. I really hope the life thing doesn’t stick tho, you were looking so progressive there for a moment Capcom ;_; only together can we break the glass ceiling!

[Ellipsen]

Makoto still has s.mp, that move stays active forever and stops everything in its path. I thought it might be nerfed.

[Eternal]

Makoto still has s.mp, that move stays active forever and stops everything in its path. I thought it might be nerfed.

That is easily one of the best normals in the game, right up there with Yun’s S.MP. But The move is SO central to everything she does that nerfing it would literally nerf her entire game. So it is tough to say that they would nerf it, or if they did than it would be a very small one.

[Ellipsen]

That is easily one of the best normals in the game, right up there with Yun’s S.MP. But The move is SO central to everything she does that nerfing it would literally nerf her entire game. So it is tough to say that they would nerf it, or if they did than it would be a very small one.

True, that move is like a special in itself. I was thinking just a damage nerf so it didnt mess her game up. She was brought down in other ways tho.

Here is a question, for people who play 3 or more characters, which one do you have the most FUN playing and why?

[entrerix]

Here is a question, for people who play 3 or more characters, which one do you have the most FUN playing and why?

i mostly use guile and abel, but i dabble with viper, dudley, cody, chun, ibuki and yang.

Of those, the ones that are the most FUN to play as are in this order:
abel, viper, guile, ibuki, yang, dudley, cody, chun

sometimes just being fun isn’t enough though, sometimes i want to win. and when i want to win, i win most often with guile and abel, everyone else i’m about equal with, except ibuki and chun. i have a harder time winning with those two.

[Utahsbowser]

Add VANILLS SETH!!!

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[Xgrayninja]

True, that move is like a special in itself. I was thinking just a damage nerf so it didnt mess her game up. She was brought down in other ways tho.

Here is a question, for people who play 3 or more characters, which one do you have the most FUN playing and why?

I play Vega, Bison and Sagat. I’m competent with Vega and Bison, but my Sagat is absolute garbage. Still, I actually tend to have more fun with Sagat. On the rare occasion that I actually manage to play well with him, it just feels much more rewarding than winning with Vega/Bison. I’m not quite sure why.

[stabicron]

I use Bison and Deejay. Winning with Deejay though I am not that good with him is fun because it never fails to generate salt and I feed on tears.

[blackadde]

like some kind of brine vampire.

[Eternal]

like some kind of brine vampire.

Brinepire.

Makes me imagine basically classic dracula but with a snorkle

[tali]

gouken needs nerfing, hes so broken, we call em brouken.
his hados need to be nerfed to 20 damage, 35 charged. (angled hadukens?! wtf so broken)
his tatsu is to strong, add more recovery on hit so i can get up and punish him after.
his counter thing needs to be removed or make it 50/50 so the damage he gives out is the same damage he gets hit with, no focus attack damage that recovers.
his demon flip needs to have more start up, its way to fast.
his sweep is godlike, needs to be nerfed to 10 frames start up
health down to 850 stun 850

thanks capcom

[woodenTEETH]

This thread needs to die…painfully.

[climaxter]

gouken needs nerfing, hes so broken, we call em brouken.
his hados need to be nerfed to 20 damage, 35 charged. (angled hadukens?! wtf so broken)
his tatsu is to strong, add more recovery on hit so i can get up and punish him after.
his counter thing needs to be removed or make it 50/50 so the damage he gives out is the same damage he gets hit with, no focus attack damage that recovers.
his demon flip needs to have more start up, its way to fast.
his sweep is godlike, needs to be nerfed to 10 frames start up
health down to 850 stun 850

thanks capcom

Wow. Really?