Ryu? he got that walk speed and all the tools
Oh i’m not looking for another character, just pointing why i left sagat on the shelf for hwoarang, at least for now.
I was playing Guile/Zangief for a while, seems to work well.
The one character that really interests me is Bob, I don’t think he’s been explored very well, he seems to have a lot of untapped potential.
I had a go at Zangief / Hugo for a while but it really struggles against full on zoning, even in a game with poor keep out like SxT.
Ryu / Rufus, Rolento / Raven, Chun Li / Rufus or some combination of those seem to be the best teams going around right now.
I don’t think Gouki has jack shit on Sagat anymore. st.rh is a liability now since Gat still has buttons that stuff it and can buffer into chain combo. Tk is much better and now it tends to beat normals it lands on save for a select few. Shoto low forward is not one of them. Speaking of shoto low forward you better not whiff that in front of Sagat. You will get whiff punished and comboed. Add to Goukis low life and he can have problems. Also Vortex is dead which helps Sagat even more.
I did not create this I found this from another site according to Smoai’s post
Original Post here: http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/54270/1332414225/
S: Ryu Rufus Ken Juri
A+: ChunLi Rolento Guile
A: Dhalsim Claw Kazuya Julia Raven Marduk Ogre Hugo Zangief Sagat Cammy Hworang Poison
Akuma
A-: LiLi Xioyu Dictator Steve Ibuki Heihachi Jin Law Nina King Boxer Bob
B: Abel Kuma
C: Asuka
D: Yoshimitsu Paul
HAH Kazuya worse than rolento/guile/chunli/ken and on the same level as dhalsim, poison, akuma, MARDUK
Rolento shouldn’t be A+. Give that spot to Kazuya. Actually fuck it Kazuya is S tier. Chun might be better then Juri actually. Sagat is A+ for sure. Abel could hit A- imo. Move Heihachi to A. Dude has one weakness and that’s walk speed but if he is next to then you just lost half ur life easy.
Ken is NOT S tier. No fucking way. Raven could hit A+ imo as well.
wow Jin is ranked low on that list.
Thought he was pretty good? Except for a relatively weak AA game.
I don’t get this “jin has weak aa deal”, mental alertness into kick followup is easier than doing a srk. It’s unpunishable on wiff and on block pretty much and there’s huge reward for landing it.
people think its bad because it requires thought
Also what the fuck. No grappler should be higher then B.
Fuck outta here with that nonsense.
Fixed :3
With Marduk being the highest one lol.
Also Cammy over Lili? Wish it were true, but im not sold on that yet.
And I know Sim probably has a ton of good matchups, but I dunno if he has enough to be ranked that high.
His anti-air game is fine, it’s not on the level of Ryu/Juri/Ken but it is good. The real issue with him and what I believe hurts most of the Tekken cast is their lack of tools in the neutral game. Having mediocre pokes, no projectiles( or conventional ones) and no grab game basically means holding forward the whole match and committing to being the aggressor in a defensive game.If you look at the top 7 characters, 5 of them have a projectile and the other 2 have jump altering moves. The Tekken cast has to play cat and mouse the whole time, while the SF cast can dictate the fight.
Which is why I say Jin and Raven are good. They actually HAVE a neutral game and Kazuya has REAL footsies with good walk speed and solid overheads.
ken isn’t s tier at all. he should be either A or A- tier for sure though. juri isn’t S tier either. niggas just keep jumping in on her like fucking morons instead of playing a decent ground game.
Ok that was pretty cute.
Ken is probably the best assisting character in the game, Tatsu combos, jumping Tatsu, c.mk and a good antiair+fireball. Then he has all this offensive bonuses like, counter hit bounce overheads and mid rang crumples, 2 frame super even landing it from a confirmed step kick. Just really the full package imo.
Emblem: I agree completely, Jin does’t have a good fireball per say, but it does the job of forcing action which most Tekken characters can’t do sadly
i agree with the assumption that ken is the best assisting character in the game. honestly, he’s only held back by mediocre crouching normals that can easily be remedied by using standing ones. and his walkspeed is eh as well. but other than that, ken is very good, air tatsu is brainless as fuck. he has no reason to respect your aa’s/dp at all. if you block, then i get a free string. if i hit then your losing 300 meterless or 400 with 1 bar. and fierce srk tag is just derp as fuck. i win in either situation because if you block i’m safe. if i hit then you’re losing about 45% life.
As a char I think Ken is underwhelming and match-up wise I don’t think he is anything special but that tatsu gives him alot and so does his super and his DP creates a safe tag. He functions well within the engine and is an amazing partner
He is not S tier though. Prolly A+ or A-.
Hell I’m not sold on Ryu being S tier either. So far only Juri and Rufus fit that mold for me. Maybe Chun too. She is a beast.