Thats ALOT of work to mod an Agetec, but your method is for people who dont have access to a Dremel and whatnot. In anycase, good shit. :tup:
And what I wanted originally posted, here are three more Tekken 5 stick mods of mine. I will remove the artwork, repaint the metal panel and coat it with polyurethane and/or add my own artwork…
If the two buttons that don’t work don’t EVER work, then you’ve got it easy. You just need to use a multimeter to determine where the problem is. Set the multimeter to resistance (Ohms). Look what the readout says. That’s what it will look like when the circuit is broken. Now touch the two ends of the probes together, and see what the readout looks like. That’s what it will look like the the circuit is good. Open the namco, use tape or something so the ‘broken’ button is pressed down. Touch a probe to each of the two legs of the switch you’ll see sticking out through the pcb in a mess of solder. If the multimeter shows a broken circuit, and the button is definitely pressed, then its a bad button. Bad button means order 6 30mm buttons from Himuragames and replace all six at once via the direction on ArcadeStickMonk’s page.
If the multimeter shows the button is working (a good circuit when the probes are touched to the legs of the switch), then it becomes a bit of a logic problem. You have to follow with your eyes and watch the little traces coming off of the button and try to use the same method to find where the break in the circuit it, and resolder or rewire over it. I am betting that the problem is either a worn out button, or one of the ‘jumpers’ used on that pcb. There are pieces of unshielded wire in a few places that they use to hop over some traces. On mine, ones of the solder points for one of those jumpers came off of the trace. Resolderiing that point fixed it up.
Both of the buttons work occasionally, Although I opened up the back (I don’t have the screw drivers to open up the front yet but I will tommorow) when I pushed against the circuit board a little, it sounded like there was a little click after which if I held the board and the buttons worked fine although I don’t know if the small pressure I was applying would be good for the circuit board. n addition after ashort while the board seemed to “pop” back out again and the buttons stopped working properly again. I suppose if I had to describe it I would say they were hard pressed although the fact that the butto motio doesn’t feel stiff or clanky doesn’t support this. Thanks for the help so far, if you can help me any more, it would be great :china:
Okay update: I got a soldering Iron and some 2MM solder (is this too thick? it looks a little) I couldn’t find a solder vacuum or sucker so I won’t be able to start until then but I still haven’t been able to identify the problem quite yet but will do very soon, once I’ve done that I will probably need a little help beacuse the wiring on the namco stick on the arcadestickmonk page looks very complicated by the end picture. Now I don’t know if that is because the actual stick has been modded as well or because the adaptor has been changed so it can play on other consoles or if it’s the buttons but I would like to know before I start just so I know what I’m letting my self in or. Thanks again :china:
Ok, so,
My wife spilled sweet tea all over my Namco, and she let it dry. Now the buttons are super sticky, and don’t seem to be going away (The sweet tea forms a sugery sap). I want to keep my Namco, and make a Sanwa, but it seems I might as well mod my Namco seeing ass my buttons are almost useless (I don’t know if time would fix the problem or not, the buttons WORK, they just get stuck for a second or to, and don’t have any play).
So, I want my mod to feel just like a Sanwa, and I haven’t seen many Namco mods. I was wondering if there is anyway I can put a Sanwa/Seimitsu stick whole. I know I might have to file where the screws go, but other then that? ArcadeStickMonk said he used “Hori shaft, e-clip, and actuator; and Sanwa everything else.” and it felt great, another person said to sand down the Sanwa actuator instead?
I also would like to know if I could just use the stock PCB, someone told me that I shouldn’t. I saw that if I bend the prongs on the buttons I could fit them in the PCB, but that sounds risky, and if I used a Dual Shock PCB I could just use QD’s (.110 from like a car audio store right?) right?
Also, I CAN’T GET THIS E-RING OFF (I was going to replace the spring). I know it’s been said before, but the hori ring is so freaking small, and it’s spinning on the stick. Tried sticking a flathead in between, no luck.
So, should I see if the Namco will fix itself over time and make a box for a Sanwa/Seimitsu? Or just freaking mod it to hell and hope I find another Namco.
Have you tried washing the buttons? I mean pulling them out of the stick, takeing them a part and puting them in a tub of soapy water. As long as the sweet tea didn’t get on the microswitches soap and water should do the trick. If you do decide to mod the Namco I’d recomend Not useing the Namco PCB. Because of the way the Namco PCB is placed in the stick it can sometime hit the plate on the bottom of the case and pause the game or do some other stuff randomly. A sony Digital PCB fits in the Namco case much better. The simple solution to the random button presses with the Namco PCB is to just put a thin piece of cardboard in the stick so that the PCB doesn’t hit the plate.
After much thinking, 2 sticks owns just one stick, and saving the Namco would be worth it.
I took out the buttons last night, and cleaned them up good, but the white plunger under the buttons is what is sticking. However, the buttons DO work when pressed, just sticky (lucky).
I tried working with small tweasers and a slighty damp soapy-wet q-tip, moving the plunger up and down and rubbing it with a q-tip.
This helped at first, but in the morning (the tops of the buttons had been washed, cleaned, and left to soak in soapy water overnight) the white plungers under the tops of the buttons were still slighty sticky.
I was thinking maybe some light WD-40 after another cleaning?
Okay at last I got my self a desoldering vacuum to get rid of an excess solder, I haven’t got the multimeter yet but I should get that very soon if it’s not too expensive. Just wondering how to access the button area, cos on mine the circuit boarding is in the way of the buttons if I open it up from the back, also I can’t seem to open it from the front? Is this typical of Namco sticks? Is it necassary? A little further advice would be great and I should be able to finish this off quick as I’m pretty certain of what needs to be done. Thanks for all the help people, it has been of great assitance, and I’m sorry for having to be draged through this process due to my stupidity, thanks for your patience :bgrin:
I am total n00b on changing buttons. My HRAP will arrive soon and I want to change 4 middle buttons to SANWA, today ordered and payed. Anyone have pic instructions of moding?
BBG:
the only way to take buttons out is from the bottom. you’ll have to remove the circuit board (PCB) first before you can access the buttons. you’ll notice 12 large solder points on the PCB, and you should desolder those points. after that, you can pull out the PCB and remove the buttons easily.
Is there any1 willing to sell a Sanwa Flash or a Arcade Stick with one already in it?
Parry: WD-40 that ish. That stuff works on a lot of stuff. Spray the WD-40 on it, let it sit for a few minutes, and then wipe it. The trick is letting it sit so it can penetrate. Wash with dish soap afterwards to get rid of the smell.
I’m having problems modding my Tekken 4 stick,i got in the sanwa buttons,soldered them the pcb and i got in the sanwa JLF and soldered the cables to the microswitches in the sanwa but it doesnt work when i move the stick,any help on this would be much appreciated
Digital Master. If none of the directions work, I’m thinking that the problem could lie with the ground connection to the directions.
The Sanwa stick should have a common ground prong. Need to check whether it’s soldered correctly, and if the connection is good.
If i keep pressing the stick in any direction 100 times(for example),just one time only it will move in that direction and nothing more happens.I soldered exactly as it says in this tutorial http://himuragames.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi?board=techinfo&action=display&num=1109887687
I don’t know what’s happening
i i want mod my agetec stick for sanwa parts. Does anybody have instruction how do this [ something
like that]
Fear my sanwa modified HRAP’s. The balltops are mesh-type btw but my camera sucks so you can’t really see it.
www.buffis.com/pics/hraps.jpg
Octagonal gates, sanwa sticks (the default ones), sanwa buttons.
I’m gonna modify my SC2 Hori arcade stick with some sanwa parts, somebody can redirect me to a faq for this work please?
The search function is not working right now so i can’t find it.
Thanks in advance. :tup:
There’s no FAQ for that particular stick, but in the first few pages (maybe page 3?), Armadillo highlights a few ways of mounting the stick in the SC2.
http://www.arcadestickmonk.com/asm-namco-sanwa-mod.html
That’s not the SC2 specifically, but will probably be a similar process, but maybe with less work since the stick should fit without modifications.
Hey thanks a lot man! I’ll give it a try. :tup:
Hi…
Anyone joystic master know the difference beetween sanwa
JLF-TP-8Y and JLW-TM-8 ?
I’ve start to build my custom stick but in my country, i only can get the JLW type (please dont ask what country is this). And the JLF type looks like official stick for any fighting game.
i know some one has post this question in
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97035
That was my friend, but until now, no one answer this question, so i post here. Please anyone who know the difference between that stick, any answer will be appreciated
