Official HORI RAP Premium VLX (VEWLIX) - VX (360); V3 (PS3) - Arcade Stick Thread

This (and the 360 diagram underneath it) are extremely helpful. I dug through the thread and found it, but to help others would it be possible to add this to the first post?

It already has a Thread.
http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=244180/

But you should not use that.
Go to the Second Page of that Thread for the true.

I feel the same way. I have a little table in my room and I’ve tried it before with my TE stick, but it doesn’t feel comfortable. The VLX on the other hand is a completely different experience. It just doesn’t feel right having something that big on my lap. When I tried it on the table it feels perfect. Almost like recreating the arcade experience as some would say by having it sit on a stationary object while you just rest your hands on it.

Anyways I love my new VLX, but it’s not something I want to bring to tourneys. First off it’s big and heavy so it’ll start being a pain in the ass lugging this thing around. Secondly when you have something that looks this good, you don’t want to bring it to a public setting like a tournament because you might be afraid it’ll get damage, scratched, or worse, stolen. So I guess I spent 300+ to play on Xbox Live and show off to friends because I’m not planning on taking this thing with me to any tournaments, not anytime soon anyways.

One of my new additions to my VLX…I introduce to you: Spark :slight_smile:

oohh! so jealous!

Mr_Caesar, I cannot send you messages because your maximum Inbox quota is full. If you clean up your Inbox, I can pm you the message that you wanted. Later man.

all cleared up now :slight_smile:

to*** Syn13***, the Qanba owner…man isn’t it a great stick? It’s interesting comparing to the VLX. I have both as well as a TE and in terms of the ‘tinny’ hollow feeling, I would scale the Qanba first, TE second, then VLX last in terms of having a SOLID feeling. The Qanba’s is really nice and people realize just how solid and nice till they play on one, its too bad they dont have more recognition and demand in the states.

As far as the tinniness of the VLX I think it has something to do with the thickness and material of the top panel. The VLX’s seems thin? durable but thin. The thing about the VLX is that even though its ‘clickier’ as well as the buttons, its heavy as hell in your lap. So its odd because you have a mix of this solid heavy feeling and the tinniness of the stick and buttons. Personally I don’t mind it and actually enjoy it. It’s not a hindrance but really more of just the stick’s character.

The Qanba on the other hand is heavy too, surprisingly so and much more than the TE. The top panel has a really thick plexiglass which you probably know since you customized yours. That and the fact that its wood (at least as I can tell), a really nice quality wood, it gives a really super solid feeling I think is ideal for tournaments or playing in a big gathering. Almost has a shock absorbent feel to it.

If you took the Taito style of the VLX with the wood casing of the Qanba and the mass produced quality pricing of the TE, you’d have a dream stick. If the VLX were at the 200 dollar price point they’d clearly take a huge chunk of the market and make up for production costs and licensing. I dunno how business really works lol but youd think theyd consider lowering the price since every single player wants one and the price point is their only barrier. Luckily I paid for mine at cost with a dual mod, but from what I’ve seen on ebay its going for some silly prices.

What are your thoughts on the two since you have both as well?

It’s very hard to make a comparison between my dual modded RAF3 and my HRAPP VLX EX unfortunately but simply to say in hindsight, the RAF3, EX or Empire Arcadia versions are a more practical choice when compared to the VLX realistically speaking.

Qanba sticks reigns supreme over the competition simply because of two features it has over the competition and they are:
Wood case - hefty, absorbs impacts and number one material used for custom sticks and boxes. This feature itself gives the stick more character and feeling than the HRAP and TE sticks. Also easier to mod and add things because it’s wood.
Play surface design - Wood base, metal plate and thick plexi-glass makes this the most quiet and solid stick I’ve ever played on(aside from America CP cabs). Metal plate is very well designed, with each hole for each button have 2 indents to lock snap in buttons in place which I thought was clever.

Other than that, the Qanba has the cleanest surface only consisting of the stick, 8 buttons and illuminating LEDs under the plexi-glass and I thought that start, home and select were very well placed on the right side of the stick. I hate the custom/TE start and select button being on the back of the stick.

Now for the VLX:
This is purely for the arcade and collector enthusiasts as it is commonly referred as the “Ferrari of Arcade Sticks” aside from the SS HS-130 stick. I had a HRAP V3 before this but sold it and picked it up simply because of Amazon’s Black Friday sale and no regrets at all! It’s such a beauty and it’s feels so empowering that I simply see the tinny sounds and feeling as a cool thing lol~
I do admit though, it’s really a table stick although I’ve been using it on my lap at the recent local casuals I’ve been attending. At the moment now, my VLX is my home stick for SSFIV and shmups whereas my RAF3 is now mainly my secondary/travel stick(it’s more versatile and it’s also dual modded).
I can say that the VLX looks like it could take all past, present and future console mods since it’s so vast and clean inside which is possibly what I’ll be doing as it is a keeper. I dunno how much of a replicate the VLX is since I haven’t played on a Vewlix cab yet but I would imagine the feeling would be exactly the same but a little shorter in width.

So being that I basically said which one I prefer in the first sentence of my post, the VLX is more of a luxury than it is a practical item, throwing a lap support does add to value but doesn’t justify it as a practical item to haul around(would love to have the HRAP travel bad) :smiley:
If you’re tight on cash, grab the Qanba NOW! If you got extra for a stick and want to catch some attention or just plain love arcade rep items, grab the VLX.

Quirks and bits:
I will be ruining my VLX by adding a custom template over it, I am confident that the coat of paint on the metal panel will survive one layer of adhesive and only one other member I know here has done it(apparently I had the same problem as him with the start button being off).
Qanba was very stupid when designing the RAF3, the PCB was not common ground and the graphic was printed on the backside of the plexi-glass so I have to just use the good old fashion laminated label sticker which came out amazing. First print|Current Print

I asked Yuuki Mizutani (Hori employee) whether the travel bag would be coming to Amazon and all he said was it’s a Hori Web Store exclusive item. Since he didn’t disclose the idea of the bag ever coming to Amazon I imagine it eventually will. Most if not all Hori products on their U.S. page have been or are on Amazon.

If I remember correctly somebody on the SRK forums bought one from the Hori web store and with shipping the bag came close to $50. That’s too much for my blood for a travel bag.

syn13, you missed some parts of my post I think.

I do own a Qanba. I forget the model name lol, but its for xbox, wired, and has the ‘viewlix’ design under the plexiglass.

I also agree 100 percent since I also own the VLX (wasnt sure if you caught that part either :p). It is more than a novelty but it does have that factor, whereas the Qanba is just excellent all around. I just wish mine didnt come with a little chip in the wood :frowning:

That’s unfortuante about the Qanba, not sure if we have the same stick but i think we do. I wanted to mod my Qanba now that I own a VLX, but part of its appeal is that thick plexiglass. Now I have two vewlix style sticks but the Qanba’s artwork just kind of pales next to the VLX…I gotta change the art at some point but the plexiglass problem is such an issue…

A few more questions. Can you tell me how the Qanba feels now that the plexi is gone? I’d mod mine asap if I knew it’d feel the same but I think that a big part of the feel of the stick and play surface comes from the plexi. Did you just put your lamilabel on top of the plexi or take it off altogether? I’m assuming its the former so i’m wondering how that works or anything to keep an eye out for when I do it.

Also no offense but I just don’t get the customizing of the VLX…isn’t the appeal the entire aesthetic? because with custom art it wil lbe yours no doubt, but then it kind of loses its initial character doesn’t it? I suppose the chasis is almost worth it in itself, the design is absolutely brilliant and elegant but that artwork just brings it all together and is part of what made me want it in the first place.

I’ve been thinking about doing it myself though pretty different from your idea and some other mods I’ve seen. In Japan it seems like the white and red color scheme is actually kind of rare, at least at the arcades I played at and I played at one in at least every major city. Either way, if I do mod mine ever it will be to match the other style with the red/silver/ color scheme. The side white panels would be red and the buttons and stick would be replaced with red sanwa buttons and the artwork would have to be a silverish color with red outlines and the long horizontal streaks running across the top. The thing is I have no idea how to go about altering the artwork and lack the cajones.

Now if only…if only Art over at Tech Innovations would start making plexi’s and artwork cutouts for these!!! I’m sure there’d be a demand if he were to make replacement prints of the original artwork so that we can always replace our custom and get the original vewlix look back. That would be dreaming big time. And since the dude is so damn creative with his accessories like the tiny dustwasher that barely keeps the opening closed when you move the stick in all directions, he could probably think up some interesting ways to make use of the huge space in the chasis. If only these were more popular and cheaper!

One can only dream.

PS And having played on vlx cabinets in Japan for a good solid week of daily, hourly play, I’d say that it’s damn near similar, even that clicky hollow kind of feel except maybe a little less so on the cabinets? Overall the same feel I’d say.

Whoops, written my post very late in the morning yesterday(4 something am? lol)…sounds like my post was written poorly lol!

Anyway, there are multiple sticks available from Qanba, the most popular are the Q2 and Q3 series and I believe both have the Vewlix layout…just so there’s no confusion, mine is the Q3(has a red stripe) which turns out to have been the only model at the time that was offered for PS3 and it was wireless whereas the 360 version came out a couple of months later with vast improvements IMO.

Plexi-glass/graphic issue:
If we have the same sticks, then your Qanba should only have an art insert underneath which means you won’t have to go through as much trouble as I have(just print a graphic on paper, trim and insert under the plexi-glass. The plexi-glass is a vital part of the stick design. Without it, buttons won’t lock properly and you wrists will be uncomfortable by the wood case(not leveled). I used something like lamilable(laminated label paper), all the Qanba sticks come with the screws covered in a thick layer of glue with a metallic sticker over it. I peeled the stickers off and dug the layer of glue off then unscrewed the screws to get to remove the plexi-glass. As I mentioned, the Q3s have the graphics actually printed on the backside so I had to use a stick over top.

$236 CAD spent into the VLX, why not give it some characteristics rather than having it look like everyone elses :smiley:

A page or two back, I posted a YHJ auction where someone offers a new metal plate and plexi-glass, the only downside is that it’s Astro City layout…and after everything calculated, it costs up to $140 USD!

Sweet! It’s good to hear that the VLX gives the same feeling as the Vewlix cabs, we’re waiting for SSFIV in Toronto right now, I’m guessing that SSFIV is strictly for Vewlix cabs. Overall, I do love the VLX simply because it’s HUGE! Other than that, it’s my love to arcade shmups and SSFIV that I bought the VLX kekeke.

Hori Travel Bag Pro:
If Amazon does get it, I hope they ship to Canada! Almost everything Amazon.com offers, Canada only offers half of the stuff the US shop offers, I’m surprised that Amazon.ca offers the VLX(I got cheap and asked a buddy to order one for me from the Black Friday sale lol).

I’m a ‘reverse’ stick player, I use my right hand for the stick and left hand for buttons. Only thing holding me back from buying this stick are mod concerns, but according to this I CAN remove the metal face plate and plexiglass from the stick, like with other Hori products?

Thanks.

^ If you opened my VLX up you would never know that it was dual modded.

The sticker is easily removable and replaceable if you are careful. The chimp board is actually INSIDE of the small black housing box so you’d never know. Waste of space maybe, but clean and innocuous. The top metal plate is removable but I don’t think it’s going to be especially easy. From what I gather, the VLX is like this from top down: plexiglass/chrome sticker stuck on the inside of the plexi with artwork facing up/metal panel bolted on/the VLX chasis frame that the top plate rests on.

So when you look at the artwork on top, the circles around the border and at the start button are on top of the actual bolts holding the metal panel down beneath the art and plexi. The plexi and art is held on by some sort of glue I think and not actually bolted down along with the metal panel. I might be wrong though, but this is how mine seems to be put together.

Hey guys, I’ve recently dual modded my PS3 Hori Vewlix. I had modded it so that the L1 and L2 buttons on the layout were my select/turbo and Home buttons, respectively. Now I’m gonna redo the wiring as it was quick try to see how it would work. I took it apart and read the thread with the pics of the daughter PCB up on the top.

I’m wondering for that ground point though, will I be able to cut that wire and install it into the PS360 ground terminal? Cuz i figured if I can do that then I have the signal wires on the oneside and they just share that one ground point on the other side and it should work, right? That is, if that is ground for the whole PCB. Can anyone enlighten me on it?

The daughterboard is common ground, just like the main vlx board. I modded my vlx with a PS360 as well. Unless you really want your L’s to be select, turbo, and home, I’d recommend tracing out the wires for these buttons off the daughterboard. I don’t remember which are which exactly, but it shouldn’t take 5 minutes to figure it out with the board sitting in front of you (even easier with a multimeter which you should already have if you’re doing mods IMO ^_^). Once you do this, you can screw them into their respective terminals and use the normal select/home/turbo buttons of the VLX.

I just couldn’t imagine having those buttons right next to my actions buttons, I need at least a little space! :slight_smile:

Well, I found out which ones were the wiring to the buttons, but when I hooked it all up to the PS360 terminals, I didn’t get any response from the 360 side of it or the PS3 side of those three top buttons.

Edit: Seems weird, but when I tested out the continuity of the buttons. It makes that pics on the other thread all wrong. For some reason, terminals all shifted one to the right from that picture of the daughter board. Weird. I hope this works now…

Quick question before I commit to potentially buying a VLX…Does the tin hollow feeling feel the same as a HRAP3?!? I use to have a HRAP3-SA & didn’t like how tinny it was (if that makes sense) everytime I depressed a button. It made it feel cheap. Thx!

It’s similar, but not exactly the same feel. It’s a lot closer to an HRAP than the dull thud feeling of a TE though. After playing on it for quite a while I really prefer it to the TE.

Really? Between a HRAP3 & a TE, I prefer the TE b/c the HRAP3 just feels kinda cheap due to the hollow tin feeling.