Official Diablo 4 Thread : Hype train departing

As the customer, you shouldn’t be willing to deal with a company’s bullshit especially when it bucks your futt in my opinion.

Think console DLC and disc-locked content; why are people okay with it? Because some fans are willing to justify the extra cash dished out with development costs.

Fuck that, they can eat my poop. I have not bought one game that includes this nonsense.

Game goes live midnight PST at the end of May 14th, or 00:00 PST on May 15th.

Can install the game sometime on May 14th, if you’ve gotten the pre-download. 8:01 am PST specifically.

I already dl’d most of it.

It just didn’t install the last bit.

Cursing is my religion. And Jesus fucking Christ, religion has continuity issues.

Also: I am floating, with my eyes closed, with no sails. I am soaking, I am weathered, by the winter of mixed drinks.

That’s not how game development works. They have a business and project plan with more or less fix calculation, development time, fundings etc etc etc
Blizz of all doesn’t “earns” money to spend it on new games, because that would be a) stupid from a business point of view and b) would mean blizz never makes enough money to please all the stockholders because as long as they do a new game it would be an endless spending point.

That is the main flaw of your thinking. GAMES DO NOT NEED TO GET STEADY REVENUE. 99% of the games don’t have a monthly fee or a Digital <> RM-principle. Just think of D2 - you paid once and can play forever, BECAUSE there is no server requirement that costs money. that’s the basic of P2P, that’s why it’s so widely used. Or do you tell me that CoD is not worthwhile for the publisher because you only pay once? Anything like ELITE or Mappacks are EXTRA INCOME. It’s exactly the same for D3. RMAH is implemented to prevent 3rd Party trading through ebay etc and to get a share of that very real money <> digital item purchasing. It’s a huge cash cow that generates FREE and exclusively EXTRA money for blizzard.

=> D3 doesn’t need either. No RMAH nor Monthly Fees. with the purchase of the game they allready made the profit required (and not a small one seeing the ridiculous high price for the game).

Another flaw. You think that D3 players are exclusively “new”. let me draw you a quick chart to make it more understandable.

That’s of course just an illustration, but the message should be clear. Gamers play more then one game, they overlap quite heavily. the same like movies are not watched by “new” moviegoers. The battlenet handles currently roughly 15-20 million accounts, do you think another 2 or 3 millions from NEW accounts due to D3 will have an impact on that network? no it won’t.

That’s haflway true. but you need to understand that WoW Servers are something entirely different. SC2 and D3 have no “real” server to begin with. Again, read up on how matchmaking works. Of course they will have D3 matchmaking servers on their already established server farms, since it’s required for their RMAH plan and different currencies - but it’s nothing that requires millions of dollars. That’s why I said IN PROPORTION it’s very cheap.

D3 can’t use a similar structure to WoW because it’s not a MMO that is server based.
Time for another paint pic!

the amount of data that is required to be received, sorted, handled, multiplied and sent out by a WoW server and a D3 Matchmaking server is not even remotely comparable.

I never said it’s cheap, but that was not the question. It’s a difference if you build a railroad network or just hop on a train. D3 won’t add major costs to blizzard. that links back to my earlier stated bottom line (this time really at the bottom)

D3 doesn’t need either. No RMAH nor Monthly Fees. with the purchase of the game they allready made the profit required (and not a small one seeing the ridiculous high price for the game).

Well this topic seems to be kicking. The Diablo: Wrath animated short is now up. Made by Peter Chung who made Rugrats then decided to mindfuck everyone with Aeon Flux and other creepy shit. I can’t believe that stuff burned itself into my brain during my formative years.

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Carry on.

I still don’t see what makes you think that money earned from Diablo 3 doesn’t come back around to eventually help Diablo 3, Blizzard, or any other game Blizzard makes.

Nobody said it needed anything. I just think its a better idea than a monthly fee, its a brilliant idea from a business standpoint, and it stands to make Blizzard a ton of money… which helps them develop new stuff. Like D3 free content patches like they do in between WoW expansions, and help pay for new expansion packs.

Development is not free.

I don’t understand this discussion any more.

Company makes game.
Company gets money from game.
Company uses money to make themselves better.
Company makes new games with better stuff.
Company gets money from game.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.

if you guys don’t like the 15% fee you can always sell your items to me for gold :slight_smile:

or use d2jsp. is that shit gonna get renamed to d3jsp?

You do a business plan FIRST. then you go around getting the funding (from a publishers for instance) or from a “private”/independent source like kickstarters. it’s a more or less fix plan. the developer has already been paid when the game is finished, even before a sole copy has been sold. though, most developers get some sort of % of the revenue or bonuses for xyz sold games etc that is very differently from game to game, publisher to publisher.
the thing with game => income => bigger game => income etc is only valid for indie companies that fund themselves.

I swear to God I feel like I’m on punk’d right now.

Is Zukuu1 really Ashton Kutcher?

You got me, man. You and Elijah Wood can come out now. Sweet prank.

I think games are too inexpensive, so monthly fees should be imposed on all of them if they can be played online. I’m used to it, and I’m even to the point where I insist on paying. Free-to-play? More like free.-(too-gay).

Blizz has neither confirmed or denied they’re providing new content (other than PvP which is being delayed) between expansions like WoW. people just assume the money from RMAH is going to be used for that purpose. however,FWIW, this may not be the case.

Meh, D2 got some content updates.

Like what, 10 years later?

It is entirely possible that Blizzard will do exactly as you said, and treat it just like D2. They are working on whatever the hell “Titan” is, so it’s also possible that they are putting as many resources as they can into that.

So who is planning on playing Hardcore? I never did in Diablo 2, but I might try it in D3.

FRESHHHHHHHH MEATTTTTT on the 15th! : D

Are you guys planning to play solo on a first playthrough or in a group?

Little of both. I just want to play. If none of my srk fam are online, I will roll solo. I don’t really like to pub games.

which CONTENT are you speaking of?

I’m not a fan of HC as it adds nothing new to MY playstyle. I try avoiding to die anyways, but the whole HC takes away so much stuff from your gameplay and also pigeonholes you to particular skills / specs while enforcing you to overlevel / gear. and IF you die you “wasted” a couple of days worth of time.

I will play with a friend or solo through normal for the sake of lore and getting accustomed to the whole game again. Plan on facing inferno with 3 friends tho. and level up with any friend within my level reach. doubt I’ll do random unless farming gear in hell.

Man you guys talking about RMAH like it’s the worst thing ever. I just don’t get it. Yes, it is obviously another way for Blizzard to make money, but who cares? Using the RMAH costs you nothing to use. It’s not that much different than selling something on Ebay and losing some money for it. It’s not comparable to DLC or disc-locked content since you’re actually paying to use content not in the original purchase of the game.

In any case, I really want to do a long, marathon stream for D3 next Tuesday, but I gotta figure out how to work around my guild’s raid schedule in WoW since we raid that day. D: A marathon stream would be really fun!

Yeah I think “Hardcore” mode is a misnomer.

I think if the RMAH was good or bad was never questioned. for myself I couldn’t care less. in fact, I won’t use it to buy something but it might give me my a little extra cash from selling any non WD gear I might find.

the point is the people who say “RMAH is necessary or would have monthly fees”, because that’s is simply so wrong on so many levels…

RMAH is RMAH. It is what it is. Whether it’s necessary or not is whatever. In the end it’s not really going to affect how much fun we’re going to have with the game, so let’s leave it at that.