OBJECTION! - The Phoenix Wright Thread

There was an interesting trick where he THC’d with Wright after the DHC glitch to get even more evidence. I’ll be playing with this tomorrow to see whether you can loop it with more meter. His name was Leon Ultimate.

Also, I got bored and made this a few weeks ago.

youtube.com/watch?v=qrBbCjTTOvY

Cool, my comments got double posted…

Lol, you can do Finger loops but why do that when the other combos kill faster?

You can loop it as long as you have meter IF Phoenix Wright is your only character. Otherwise, you only get one extension if there’s multiple characters.

After a raw tag? I mean, yeah, in TRAINING MODE, you can do a Level 3 X Factor raw tag combo but that’s not really useful… And yes, in that case, you can use the finger loop.

No, I mean you can loop the Maya solo THC as long as you want as long as Wright is the only character. If there are other characters left on the team, you can only get one more THC cancel of Maya.

Yeah, but this showcases a RAW TAG combo, so Wright won’t be the only character left… why would you spend meter after using X-factor when you can just spend X-Factor?

I meant after a character kill to collect evidence.

I didn’t even cover investigation mode because the combo potential and damage output is low so it isn’t worth it to burn X-Factor. I can try it with Mag/Doom (missiles) to see if you can loop Maya after a kill.

I’m not sure we’re on the same page on what we’re discussing, but okay.

Lol at that $50+ Wright/Hulk/Strider team.

Well, you asked me why I didn’t show an X-Factor finger loop off of a raw tag, and I replied. But let’s leave it at that.

I’ll play around with that THC trick that Leon was using. Maybe you can loop it in various ways.

And on the comment about THCs, I’ve seen that trick before. What exactly are you gonna use the loop for?

Where? That’s the first time I’ve seen it.

If you can loop the THC glitch (or “post DHC glitch” rather), you can:

  1. Get lots and lots of time to get evidence.
  2. Waste lots of time for the opponent.

Have you seen the ultimate Phoenix Wright tutorial? It’s the last thing. He uses it as a combo, but the principle still applies. Basically, THC can be used to cancel Steel Smelting even if Maya is still on the screen. Try like 19:50.

Yeah, we aren’t talking about the same thing. I knew about that ages ago.

If you watch the archive, you’ll notice that after he does the “DHC glitch” with Maya he picks up three pieces of evidence, then THCs to get even more evidence. It’s as if he did two DHC glitches in a row.

See around 8:30:00 . After Nova kills the first character, he DHCs to Wright and instead of picking up 5 evidences, he picks up 3, then THCs again to get 5 more chances to get evidence.

Ahh, that? The principle is the same, using a THC to cancel Maya super recovery (of Maya, that is). He only had one bar, so only Wright’s super comes out. if he had two or more, he would have gotten a two-character THC.

You’re not getting the subtle difference between the trick in the archive and just THC cancelling. When you perform the DHC glitch, you get about 5 tries to get the evidence you need. If you’re lucky, you can get 3 good pieces in a row, switch to Trial Mode and then raw tag safely. What Leon did was he picked up 3 pieces, THC cancelled, and got 5 more chances to pick up evidence. If this trick can be looped with meter, Wright can waste a lot of time. It’s like you performed the DHC glitch twice.

I’m not sure what about the trick makes you believe that it isn’t simply THC canceling Maya’s recovery. Could you elaborate what it is?

I’m fully aware of how it can be used to pick up more evidence. What I am saying is that it cannot be done more than once: If you have one bar you get one shot; if you have more than one bar, the other characters mean that you don’t get another THC. Are you saying you can have multiple reps? If so, do tell how.

Maybe it’s just a problem with the term I’m using (and if it is, I apologise). You call it THC cancelling, but I wanted to emphasise the fact that it’s after the DHC glitch.

You are right that with three characters, you can only THC once, and depending on how much bar you have, you spend 1-3 bars because of the THC. But suppose you lose one character early on, but you kill a character and DHC to Wright. Suppose that after this, you still have 3 bars of meter. If you THC, you only use 2 bars of meter and get 4 more chances to get evidence. Then you can THC again to get 5 more pieces if you’re really unlucky (or to just waste time).

In the unlikely case that you’re left with Wright and you miraculously get a kill with Maya with 4 more bars of meter, you get 4 pieces of evidence, then THC cancel to get 4 pieces of evidence. This time, you only spend 1 bar of meter. You can loop Maya four times and get 4 pieces of evidence for the first 3 reps, and 5 for the last one.

It’s very meter heavy though, and this is assuming that the glitch can be looped it in the first place.

The irony of that match was that the guy with the Wright team in the auction tournament had to play a Phoenix Wright player…