Most tournaments run off of xbox and not ps3, for what game? Where are you drawing that data from?
What about Tekken, or MK9, for instance? Why assume which system tournaments will run SFxT on before the game is out?
Most tournaments run off of xbox and not ps3, for what game? Where are you drawing that data from?
What about Tekken, or MK9, for instance? Why assume which system tournaments will run SFxT on before the game is out?
for every game? have you ever been to a tournament before?
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i guess thats a little condecending. let me put it this way: not every single tournament is evo or ceo or canada cup. most tournaments are run by people like you and me who dont have unlimited funds to just buy 10 xboxes or ps3s on a whim for a game. they use whats available. and what my real actual experience is, is that most people own xboxes, which means that when they ask their community to donate stations for the tournament, you end up with xboxes
Your local flavor may differ. Most tournaments in my area run PS3 for everything, but I’m not claiming anything because of that.
Go through the tournaments & events forum and you’ll probably see a mix. Some games will have a preference towards a particular console. I believe Tekken and Blazblue in particular heavily lean towards PS3 in most tournaments
I haven’t gone through the list recently, but with a quick check I can see that 3 out of the 4 stickied majors use PS3 for everything.
Still, I wouldn’t claim that “more tournaments use ___.” That would be stating that I have specific information that I have not actually collected.
The point is that it remains to be seen what console will be preferred for SFxT tournaments. I personally think it’s questionable whether consistency between 360 and PS3 actually matters - the training mode knowledge is negligible compared to what you learn by playing in a tournament, and if a Cole player goes to a 360 tournament, they’ll just play someone else, like a Cammy player going to Japan for vanilla SF4, or playing on a cell phone. It comes with the territory and it won’t bother them.
The Japanese always help the Japanese, especially after a tsunami and near meltdown.
It boils down to this , Capcom and namco add extra stuff to the ps3 version to entice foreign gamers to buy the game on their Japanese system over the American system. Hell, In Japan they don’t even sell 360s anymore! They eliminated foreign competition(Microsoft) in their home market.
When sfxt is released people will buy it for both consoles and capcom, Microsoft , namco , and Sony will make money.
3/4 of the companies that get to dip into the honey pot will be Japanese. By making the ps3 version have exclusive characters Sony will take more from the pot than Microsoft and that’s winning for the Japanese.
It’s in the best intrest of a Japanese game developer to help market or sell a Japanese system as it will bring a greater amount of cash into their country, which they (the country) could spend on themselves after taxes.
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If the PS3 characters are banned, all a 360 users has to do is borrow a PS3 stick to compete on an even plane. If they are not banned, a 360 has to get access to a PS3 by buying one, plus the game and maybe a stick too, or by being lucky enough to have a friend with a PS3 nearby that they train enough with, that they can feel they are not at a disadvantage to someone who has 24/7 access to the game with extra characters.
Exclusives are banned, that’s it, it’s an unfair advantage to those without the system with the exclusives. If you want the exclusive characters to be legal then you had better be prepared to buy a PS3 and copy of the game for every tournament player and organizer who only has an XBox 360 or no system at all.
why did you respond to my post where I mention that not everyone is a major and can afford ps3s, then say that 3/4 majors use ps3?
my point is it doesn’t matter one single bit which system is “preferred” for the game, unless your tournament organizer is ballin you’re going to be using what you have available. Which is generally Xbox. You can try to say that locally everyone plays on ps3 in your area, but I assure you that is not the case in the majority of north America
I voted play on PS3 just because the awesomeness that is Megaman will be lost otherwise. On the real though, console exclusive characters should almost always be banned from serious tournament play due to potential of limited exposure to the characters.
Still I will be trolling online with my boy no matter what.
And the Ono troll train continues to chug along with Capcom’s full blessing.
Someone at that company has a serious axe to grind with Kenji Inafune for the recent treatment to Megaman.
According to this, Inafune had input on BBA Mega Man
I responded before your edit. The last paragraph is applicable regardless. A major point of my opinion is that this whole thing doesn’t matter as much as people are making it out to. It’s not a crippling disadvantage to play on PS3 when you have a 360. Maybe for your first tournament ever, it’s a small disadvantage, but you don’t live on an island, so you can get information on the characters, and the disadvantage goes away after the game has been out for a couple weeks. Now you know how to play against that character.
My ideal situation would be if people could have tournaments on PS3 and 360, and if the tournament was run on PS3, people would have access to some extra characters. No big deal. 360 tournaments would be like a less extreme version of a tournament run on a cell phone, or a console tournament of vanilla SF4. No one would get bent out of shape about it, and the people who want to play seriously as Cole or whoever can be happy too.
You could even have tournaments run on both consoles and still allow the exclusives. They do with sometimes in UMVC3 when a setup doesn’t have DLC characters. People who want those characters just don’t use that setup.
Just awesome.
I’m a PS3 owner and support Sony exclusively since they’re the much lesser of two evils here, but I still say it’s unrealistic to expect all tournaments to carry enough PS3’s and for all players of the game to play on PS3 for the sake of some joke characters.
Sure Cole, Megaman and Pacman might actually be fully fleshed characters but eh, so are the other 46.
You can still smash scrubs online with these characters and play them at casuals to your heart’s content. You may actually see high level players developing them properly just for the fun of it. Tournament banning doesn’t remove these characters from the game.
man you just dont get it - you can’t have a serious tournament that has both xbox and ps3 setups for the same game. like i said before: consistency. even if its a minute amount of difference, its still different. it IS a big deal. this statement alone just shows how out of touch you are with how things are ran, and why i think you probably dont get it
also, you cannot compare this to vanilla sf4 - there were not xbox/ps3 exclusives in vanilla. yes, compared to arcade it had more characters, but the huge, overwhelming majority of people have probably never played sf4 on a cab in their life. the only(and tournament standard) version of the game was the console version - because everyone had the same version. you also can’t compare ps3/xbox ae to pc, because PC is not the tournament standard platform(before you mention that majors use ps3s and not xbox/ps3, let me tell you that my point already went way over your head)
xbox/ps3 is the tournament standard, and it needs to be consistant across the board. if one is unavailable to the other, then its banned. thats the way it’s always been for every game worth a damn since people started running tournaments. it’s common sense.
Am I the only one that doesn’t want joke characters? It’s “Street Fighter x Tekken,” not “Capcom x Namco.”
More or less, I somewhat doubt many people will play them, whether they’re banned or not. Most of them do seem like joke characters.
It just doesn’t seem worth banning them. Have tourneys on both systems just like we do now, except the PS3 version has some extras that you can use if you want. I doubt it’d actually be a significant advantage, rather than an excuse for why someone lost.
“WAAAH I WANT TO PLAY JOKE CHARACTERS SO YOU GUYS WITH THE CONSOLE WITHOUT INPUT LAG SHOULD SPEND 200+ DOLLARS ON AN INFERIOR ONE” - whiny stream monsters in this thread. Also, whoever said they don’t sell 360’s in Japan, do you think you can just make shit up?
Its nobodies fault but the player for losing to a character. Unless you live in large communities most pot monsters have multiple characters they have little experience against. Its just a pathetic excuse really. The players who can win tournaments will find a way. Everyone else will bitch when they weren’t important anyway. (Including me) Its just silly at this point. The game is better on PS3. PS3 should be standard.
Cool post LPLoveless.
We can’t talk about past precedent because other games with exclusives had exclusives on both sides.
All I’m saying is I don’t think the two versions necessarily need to be treated as a single entity across the board. You can still have tournaments for something that isn’t the tournament standard. There were AE tournaments in the U.S. before it was out on consoles. The AE characters were in them, and you couldn’t have experience against them unless you traveled to an arcade. At that time, console SSF4 was still the tournament standard. You had both AE tournaments with Yun and Yang in them, and console tournaments without those characters.
Similarly, you could have PS3 tournaments with Sony characters in them, and 360 tournaments without those characters, even if the 360 version ends up being considered the tournament standard. It shouldn’t be upsetting if people choose to play characters they have access to, but it’s not necessary that they have access to those characters in all tournaments.
dude, they played ae tournaments on an arcade cabinet before ae came out on consoles because…
it wasn’t out for console yet.