"Not fat enough? We can fix that!" Rufus Match-up Thread

good, but why are you going in on the offense?

look, face the facts. gief’s frame data owns you for free, spd is stupid. why are you going to play rufus like you can rush him down? stay away, hit him and run. gief is only top tier if you get in his face and let him spd your life away. he sucks otherwise. he can’t do shit to your hit and run because he’s slow as all hell. if hes going to take advantage of his low frame SPDs, why dont you take advantage of his lack of mobility? let him ex glove hand his way near you, ex messiah kick him and ultra him.

here’s something

If gief whiffs or if you block a lariat you can just ultra him. Im pretty sure I hit gief with this from just under half a screen away too. Rufus’ ultra has a lot of range.

If you dont have ultra meter, you can cr.HP him or EX tornado/Messiah

ehh, be weary of the cr.hp, its weird, i think the double lariat stuffs it but lariat doesn’t or something.

i’d play it safe and just not hit up / wait for it to be almost done and then hit him

it depends, if gief throws it, you wait a sec and then throw cr.HP, though most zangiefs wont throw a lariat unless its an anti air o when they see something they can beat (I say this as a zangief player)

uh, there shouldnt be any reason to use EX tornado over EX messiah to punish things…but its cool to watch opps being sucked lol

EX tornado is useful on small combos of cr.jabs and cr.shorts

haha might be because i get so happy when i see a gief throw out a lariat after i baited it that i just throw out the cr.hp

its got some weird properties, the lariat that is

anyone got any strats against Akuma? Was playing one last night and had a really hard time against him.

from Rufus thread:

*"goukis zankus have all different distances, against the one that goes until the end of the screen use the command roll as soon as you watch it come out. and for the ones that stay closer to him, use HP tornado. Maybe you wont land a combo, but you will eat his fireball and if the distance is correct hit him…not for much bu hey! its free damage anyway.

Against demon flip…EX Snake Strike…why guess when you can punish? and if you dont have/want to save meter Command roll and escape, there isnt much that gouki can do if you roll after his demon flip.

So, yeah, try to fight him with your brain first, is the gouki player is a scrub and throws zankus all day, punish and teach him not to do so"
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If he does SGS from far away, Ultra or EX messiah kick his face (otherwise jump away). If he has ultra meter, dont jump at him too much, play footsies and if he jumps react accordingly

This is a battle of patience

thanks for the info! Any Rufus frame data?

this puts him in perfect position to get smacked by a lariat more often than not.

this is true, but i haven’t found a timing/spacing that can consistently beat them. and i eat shit way more often.

in every gief vs. rufus matchup i’ve played, gief’s pokes > rufus’s pokes. so i haven’t had much luck with zoning gief out.

so after playing combofriend’s dhalsim today, I have NO fucking clue what to do in this matchup.

guys, EX messiah is oficially the shit!

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it completely owns kens EX shoryuken

What the fuck is wrong with you? EX messiah has been too good for a very long time. It owns out almost EVERYTHING. Thats why Rufus players mash it when people are trying to mix Rufus up. Shit is retarded. Ken’s EX shoryu gets beat out by more things then you think anyway.

yeah i know, but I havent seen it beat kens EX shoryu, that was new for me. Again, I dont know what the properties of kens ex srk are, but I though it was pretty good as a “get out of here” move.

There had been too many ex messiah in some vids, which leads to some really damagin punish from the opp. Of course Ex messiah is good (really good) but, it has to be used sparringly

Diveman do you actually play streetfighter 4 or do you base all your knowledge off vids?

I did get to play it some time ago because I was on vacations, but now im in my country again so Ill have to wait until the owner of the local arcade buys it (next year maybe). Im trying to get a scholarship to study 5 months on richmond and theyll give me the answer on march 2009.

PD: feels good being called Diveman haha :tup:

im not sure if u were at vid that day but i played his sim and beat him each time. all u have to do is just keep jumping in till ur close, his b+mp is a good anti air but the damage isnt too high so u can afford to take some hits in order to get in. once ur in its pretty easy to keep the pressure on, he has no real way to keep u out

I have problems getting in against guile.

just gotta wait him out and time the qcf+fp’s right so u can get in on him then he is fucked

this

if dhal TPs, block high, he can’t go low after a tp.