Northwest VFers

Looks like we [media=youtube]CiGsVGFu2Uo[/media]can expect VF6 on home console within two years!
Checkthis out fromTSSz news :
Arcade Floodgates Could Open if Game Sells
We promised Virtua Fighter news from our inside source, and here it is. In addition to the other nuggets we’ve reported in recent days, the source–the same one who confirmed to us last year Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown would be coming to consoles in the first place, we should add–says it’s taken this long [COLOR=inherit][FONT=inherit]because[/FONT][/COLOR] Sega will tie in the home release with major news next year regarding its flagship fighter.
Specifically, our source says that around the time of Final Showdown’s digital release, Sega will formally unveil its next arcade hardware, along with the next Virtua Fighter presumably running on it, simply called Virtua Fighter 6 by our insider. If it pans, if nothing else, it’s good to see that Sega still believes in the arcade as a viable gaming option.
In fact, we’re quite lucky to see Final Showdown come West at all. Our source says a retail release was originally planned, but Sega West insisted on a digital release, weary of trying to strategize a more formal launch. That may be why, despite being released to XBOX 360, another Sega fighter, Virtual On: Force, was confined to Japan, so says our tipster.
If that’s not enough reason to support Final Showdown when released next Summer, this should be: Our source indicated that should VF5FS sell well, the company would consider releasing Border Break on both XBOX 360 and PS3 similarly through online distribution. Border Break has never seen a domestic release, and it’s not clear whether in such a situation the release would be limited to just Japan.
We’re not done yet. Tomorrow, we’ll give you an idea of what else Sega could bring to current consoles from the Dreamcast era, as well as whether the company may go deeper into their IP vault for re-release consideration.
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Isn’t this great? If you love Virtua Fighter ,like I do,this is awesome news.
We will get TWO new Characters to play as soon after getting Jean Kujo and Taka Arashi!!!
Yes!! VF5 FS and VF6 next year!!My favorite game will get some major updates! You can bet VF6 wiil come to consoles less than a year after the arcade release!!! To celebrate, checkout this VF5 Music Video!! Check it out quick before youtube takes it down over copyrights. As it is ,it cant be seen in some countries, so I uploaded it to http://stagevu.com under user M.O.B.S. http://youtu.be/CiGsVGFu2Uohttp://youtu.be/CiGsVGFu2Uo
http://www.youtube.com/user/GoDokuNoDAN?feature=mhee

I dunno if anyone cares or remembers or if it’s even been pointed out already, or if you all already know about it, but here is Chanchai’s old clone of this thread on VFDC. (It is currently very, very dead.)

I am hoping that you will soon be able to add some new names to the BC section of your players list. I am also hoping to see some of you online a year from now. Hahaha.

Yeah, I run the threads at both sites. The funny thing about the Northwest is I always meet a lot of people who actually read the threads, both here and on VFDC. But they don’t post. Which is no probs, lurkers are totally cool :slight_smile:

But it’s great when we do meet up and play, always a blast :slight_smile:

But I generally keep the dialogue different between the two threads because they generally have different people. What I’ll post in common are usually event reports, event announcements, or something really general.

Since I had already posted reports of PAX on the news thread there, I didn’t feel it was necessary to repost the full report in that thread. That said, since I might be organizing some online play, I most post those kinds of announcements both here and there.

Glad you keep checking, let me know what names to add to the list and I’ll do that (unless there’s an edit limit)!

Oh yeah… BC Players… Two very cool BC players I met at PAX were AlbertArt and Debuggirl. Both are very active bloggers on their own blog sites as well as at 1up.com. When I played them, it was clear they do play a lot of VF together and did play a lot. They might not have met up with high level players, but the stuff they had learned on their own wasn’t bad at all! They’re also very awesome people!

I definitely would love to get the whole Northwest Region involved whenever possible. Vancouver is an awesome place and I’ve met awesome VF players of long ago eras there–and BC has the best arcades in the Northwest.

Re: Godokunodan

Thanks for posting the insider gossip. It’s a very interesting read and much to think about, assuming it’s true. That said, it sounds very plausible.

I’m still wondering what the TGS announcement was, I must have missed that. Just glad I’m not hearing about VF6 almost a year before FS hits consoles. I don’t really think that would be a great move… Then again, look at people who are playing VF5 now with FS coming out and were picking up some other fighting games before announcement of the next big one coming out…

I’m interested in VF but the sheer complexity of it is off-putting. How many hundreds or thousands of hours would I need to put in to get to an intermediate level?

PORTLAND VF UPDATE
I’m considering scheduling two days each month a VF Session at Best Bout Gaming. I haven’t talked to anyone about this (including Best Bout Gaming) yet and my schedule is still very hard for me to manage for this sort of thing. This would go along with their normal meetups.

I still haven’t been to Best Bout Gaming myself though, so I really should know how everything flows there so I can be as respectful as possible when doing this. Assuming I do this.

But it seems there are players who do want to meet up and play VF, I’m definitely one of them, and I also need to somehow commit myself to going to Best Bout more anyways.

If you are interested, please post here or let me know directly (privately is fine).

Thanks for asking, Geo :slight_smile:

The short answer to your question is: It really doesn’t take long. The important basics to being competitive are just different from other fighters and that’s why the game can be intimidating (and why some people can spend a long time to get “not-so-strong”).

At an intermediate level, to be honest, it shouldn’t take long to get there. But there are reasons why VF seems intimidating at first and I’ll list them here:

  • Virtua Fighter flows differently than a lot of fighting games. It uses much the same concepts, but its flow is different.

  • The movelist is intimidating by sheer volume–however the truth is to play at an intermediate level you only need a small subset of that movelist (I’ll explain what to look for).

  • At the highest level, the game is very technical with a lot of mindgames. However, you really only need to grasp the basic mindgames to get to an intermediate level, and truthfully–to even compete at a high level. Grasping the basic mindgames and situations is really all you need, but the rest will help you deal with cases that happen far less often and are more specialized.

  • The basic mindgames are similar in principle to those in other games, but the implementation is different so that’s where a lot of confusion is.

  • I advocate learning how to play Virtua Fighter toe-to-toe. This is different than playing high level Street Fighter or even Tekken, where spacing is very sensitive. A lot of people struggle to play VF at even intermediate level because they are trying to play it as a spacing game first and end up not grasping the simpler basics of the game.

  • Most people jump into Virtua Fighter trying to learn all the special properties and unique attacks of their characters. To play at a strong, intermediate level, you really just need to learn the general attacks common to almost every character–how to use those attacks, and a couple of ways to do bigger damage. This way of learning is totally different from say, King of Fighters (which I’ve been trying to learn and train at nowadays), where you really need to learn which attacks go in which situations. In VF, you first just need to know the general pokes and setup moves–and maybe 2 easy ways of doing big damage… really, that’s all you should need to play intermediate and beat a lot of people.

If you would like me to go into more detail about these basics for playing at an intermediate level, I would be happy to make a post. But I know that if I write everything in one post, it’s intimidating. But I would also be happy to talk VF whether it was online chatting, through the forums, on xbox live (or PSN even), or by meeting up at a games session somewhere!

Nice to meet you!

P.S. I am thinking of writing and posting here a list of “Basic/Intermediate Drills” that should teach “correct responses” to players and by doing the drills, it should show you why that answer is correct. I’m starting to think this might be the way to teach intermediate level VF and get people up to speed quicker. These drills generally require two players though.

just spam the same 2/3 op moves over and over

Yangsing’s usual sarcasm aside, this tactic will kill you in VF lol. At least against an intermediate level player hehehe.

Taking some requests for XBL VF5 matches. If you can deal with the Hawaiian lag, I promise some good matches with a variety of characters =)

XBL nick: RayBladeX2

Damn, what about tomorrow? 8pm PST? FT20?

Ray, awesome seeing you ^^ Most people have had to deal with the lag on my end, so Hawaiian lag should be okay ^^ It won’t be the same as our offline battles of course, but it should be a blast. But I hate having to decide who to take off of my Live friends list to make room. But I’ll try to do that soon.

Femto, I’ll try to be available at 8pm tomorrow. It’s hard to tell if I will be able to or not because my wife will probably want to go out or do something. So… if you can’t make it, don’t worry about it. But if we happen to both be online, it’s on :slight_smile:

Sweet!

There’s a really fun Japanese Final Showdown tournament live on ustream right now! Quite entertaining and mostly has big-name players of the past and some present.

I recommend you guys check it out!

Also, if you’re up early tomorrow morning, there will be a live Korean VF5 Version C (XBox) event where the Korean players are getting back together for some fun VF, including Shinz (aka AkiraKid who was a dominant force throughout VF but especially VF2 and VF3). That event will be livestreamed here: http://ko.twitch.tv/drakefang

Update: Man, a lot of OLD SCHOOL players came out of the woodwork to play in this exhibition tournament (it’s in the arcade show–extension I think of TGS). Kyasao was a famous VF2 player back in the day and Kashiwa Jeffry also. Kyasao was fun to watch, though I don’t think Kashiwa has played VF5 lol.

Was fun watching Chibita and Ohsu earlier :slight_smile:

And the Japanese “Dream Tournament” is over… Hope they archive it :slight_smile: There were some fun matches!

LOL… the commentator/announcer (the one who screams and did commentary at Evo way back when for VF4 Evo I think) is fighting against the Sega Spokesgirl, while commentating his own match (the mic is stowed in his jacket in front of him)…

I’ll play you if you bring it, and if you come regularly I’ll actually practice. :slight_smile:

I’m working on it :slight_smile: Still tough for me to manage my time, but at the very least I’ll try to give a good amount of heads up if I start doing this. Fortunately, the response has been good! I’ve had response on both forums (VFDC and SRK) as well as through other means.

BTW, a big potential heads up! There’s a VFDC regular who will be in Seattle in late October. I am keeping his identity confidential for now, just out of respect until he tells me it’s cool to let others know. We’re hoping to meet up in Seattle then, but I don’t think the chances are that good that I’ll actually be able to go. That said, he’s not a “big name” North American VFer (and no, he’s not Japanese either), but he’s a very good player–I believe him to be a good deal stronger than me. He’s a very nice guy, and some of you may have already fought him online on Xbox Live over the last few years. I’ve fought this guy online a few years ago and both him and his brother give me hell, and they do exhibit a tighter grasp of the game (they’re better at putting the knowledge into practice) than me. Anyhow, if it’s possible this turns into a really great VF Session opportunity in Seattle (or even Portland, I’d probably be willing to pay his train fare), I’ll keep everyone updated as soon as I’m allowed.

Just thinking about this is very motivating… I think it would give us certain directions to focus our training… Training to fight the character(s) this guy plays… I would be showing everyone the various options against my Lion–how to punish each option I’d put out there, so we can really get down to the mindgames for everyone… Training everyone for max damage with their characters… and of course reinforcing all the basics to make sure you have a chance at maximizing damage. I think it would motivate an awesome training curriculum–one I believe is doable in even 2-3 weeks.

@ Geo Yes VF5 is complex but that complexity works in your favor. That’s the most succinct answer I can provide: the complexity is actually the added playability and options the game provides. For example DOA has 8-way run, but you have no way to actually evade a linear or semicircular attack, so what good is it? It’s window dressing. In VF5 you have a concrete, reliable evade system. There are so many different throws, and different attacks that have different effects, that there is a myriad of strategies you can implement, so it never gets old. No you dont have to put in hundreds of thousands of hours, play it like you would any other fighting game. There are a lot of guys on VFDC that are newbies that got mildly competent in a few months. Since you are on SRK I’m assuming you have a decent arcade stick. If you dont, get one. Pick a character that best suits your fighting style, and spend a little time a day mastering him.

^^ I think that’s the Key difference in VF , due to the extremely large movelist for each character, you have to spend about a month or two on each character to get to a decent level with them, as opposed to other fighting games where most characters are carbon copies of each other so you could learn the whole game in a month or two. As you can tell you get more bang for your buck in VF.

whatsup in the seattle area?