Hey all, add me to the list of VF players in the NW (Seattle area).
Handle is Resok (go by Rob RL). Was there at last Preppy’s (on 2/1/08) playing Lei Fei in the tourney.
Great games by the way.
Resok
Don’t know if anybody’s seen this yet but…
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1213618_1124.html
New version of VF5 with two new characters apparently and tweaked gameplay.
Hey guys.
I’m slowly learning VF since I practice sometimes at Femto’s house. I’m just copying his El Blaze as much as possible since he’s a cool character, but I eventually want to learn Wolf and maybe Akira (though Sorias saying he doesn’t use Akira because he’s too hard scares me-he plays Aoi!)
Just wondering, I am trying to learn more about the game system (I just learned what fuzzy guard is), but could you guys list maybe the top 3 things a beginner would need to know to improve quickly? Basically all I know is El Blaze’s basic moves, until I fight more characters I really won’t know what they’re capable of/how to block properly.
I am amazed at how addictive playing this game is, I thought I was pretty much an ST purist who also likes SNK games, but I definitely want to get into this game a lot more… I’m hoping that the scene for this game here gets as big and dedicated as ST is, because I don’t want to waste time learning a cool game if no one plays.
BTW, does anyone go to Gameworks to play VF5? Does the Gameworks one have character cards you can use to save your data like the Japanese ones?
Mmm
- Fuzzy guard- Best defensive option in vf5 imo.
- Advantage- Learn what moves keep you advantaged/disadvantaged. virtuafighter.com has frame data for movesets… (this is something I still need to do but meh, I’m soo lazy).
Can’t really think of a third!
Here’s a bit from a post a few pages back talking about some advanced shit. But be sure to check out those vids that Mike posted up.
And practice practice practice! don’t be like me trying to cram a session in before Zach’s house =[
When should I do fuzzy guard, is it anytime I am at disadvantage, or is it after my attack is blocked anytime?
Also, do I execute it only one crouch, or do I need to crouch stand crouch stand while holding G?
you’ll only have to do it once. and i would recommend trying to fuzzy guard anytime you’re stuff is blocked (Although there are going to be times when you will be hit with punch strings or something like that cause you’re at a big disadvantage)
http://www.mycheats.com/view/section/19322/19168/virtua_fighter_5/ps3
you don’t actually have to read all that… the videos sum up everything.
I would say anyone learning VF (any), and looking at only 3 things? Hmm…
Warning: Long Post Ahead
1- Learn to properly use P and 2P. Don’t worry about abusing it too much at first, but it’s such a basic tool to use when used well. P gives advantage on block and hit and whatever, so watch it touch opponents and mix up between elbow attacks (El Blaze’s 3P) or throw (something one direction to start).
I think Chanchai covered 2P at one point in his posts, but here’s a quick overview:
2P blocked -> go into defensive mode: block, sidestep (just worry about getting a well timed side step at first, add throw escapes later) or dash back and react.
2P hits -> act like it’s a P at first and mix up throw or elbow.
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Learn really simple combos that do good damage and you won’t miss. I’m serious, something that you can get out in your sleep. Or on the other hand, look here for good combos and memorize any combos that: 1- are good damage and 2- launchers leave you at -8 or less. Those launchers don’t have guaranteed punishers, so you’ll always be able to guess your way out of a situation.
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Start to learn advantages/disadvantages on your attacks. Don’t worry at first about your opponents stuff, because that’ll just bog you down. Focus on your characters’ move list and look at what advantages and disadvantages you have after hit/block. Also, start to memorize “universal” advantages and disadvantages. So, things like P (+2 on block), 2P (-5 on block), elbows (-4 on block) , sweeps (about -18 on block, usually -4 on hit).
Just to know, this is a list for people who haven’t really played much VF at all, ever. This is all stuff that I worked on when I first started, and it seems like everyone suggests these or variations on them. Honestly, advanced stuff like fuzzy guard, eteg, and the like shouldn’t really be focused on until you feel really comfortable with the movelists, advantages, disadvantages, and understand the flow of the game much more. All info is IMO, of course. Different things work for different people, so if it’s not working for you, don’t do it! :tup:
Thought I’d post my thoughts after playing you for a while online now. You’re damage doesn’t cap out quite as insanely high as mike’s stagger combos yet, but you’ve done a really good copying the more standard moves. So grats, you can probably back off a little on memorizing combos till the rest of your game picks up.
The biggest problem I saw while playing you was just that you’re still very predictable. Basic gameplay at small disadvantages in VF is to expect a mid or throw, and fuzzy guard will help beat those options. However, fuzzy guard will lose to low throw, delay throw, most low attacks… there’s a lot of reasons to purposely not use it. You’re definitely in the always fuzzy guarding stage still. Not a bad thing, everyone starts out that way, you have to practice fuzzy guard a lot to get the timing, before you should start thinking about what else you can do. But, just be aware that the eventual goal is not to get so attached fuzzy guard that you always use it. (Mike’s a bit predictable too, so try and learn some other styles… he always seems shocked when he tries to elbow me three times in a row and eats a reversal)
If I had to say what you should work on next… I’d say character specific knowledge. Run through dojo with the other characters, or just play online matches against other people. Obviously, eating a reversal if you use too many mids against Aoi is to be expected… but fighting Jeffry or someone, you can spam quick ‘safe’ attacks to protect against his monstrous throws, and try to bait an evade. Knowing your opponent’s arsenal is a big advantage.
Guess I can elaborate on the Akira comment too. Aoi is one of the character’s in this game with the most different options, so the difficulty in using her is that there’s so many different options that you need to understand. Akira, on the other hand, has some of the fewest options in the game… no full circulars… no low throws, and so on. So, outside of the just the pure execution difficulty, playing Akira well requires a much deeper understanding of the few moves he has. Take, for example, punishing an ETEG… with Aoi, I can use my low sweep, no other information needed. With Akira you either have to use a half-circular, which requires reading open/closed stance to understand which side you’re half circular will hit in, and predicting which direction your opponent will evade, or risking a throw, which might get escaped. The advantage, of course, is Akira has really great risk/reward on his moves, and you can often just plow through someone without worrying about those more complex situations. It’s just a completely different kind of difficulty.
As for gameworks… I live within walking distance of it, though sad to say I’ve never gone;; I’ve heard it’s the ‘deluxe’ cab they have down there, but I don’t know if gameworks actually sells the gamecards and stuff… wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t, since I hear the fees to save characters in japan are pretty ridiculously high.
Thanks Clayton, hopefully before or after the tourney you guys with more experience than me could give me some pointers. :tup: It’s just hard because I usually am focused on ST (my main game) and often I play poker (but this time I will not play poker to focus on ST and VF since I’ve been practicing).
I’ve been playing for about a week now, thanks to Ejdge teaching me the basics. I’m still a major scrub, but at least now I can beat Pai/Laus that just mash P over and over again.
I’m glad to see that I’m already being called a cheapass online by my opponents! Here’s some of my favorite messages I’ve gotten after games (I’m playing Wolf)
1. ur fuckin cheap
2. u fuckin gay ass noob
3. next time fite
4. ur decent y is your rating so bad tho
Haha! This is a fun game. I have so much to learn. I can’t wait to get better. I’m 2nd dan now online, what is everyone else at?
Also, I’m thinking of picking a second char (not that I’m anywhere near good enough with Wolf yet, but I’m thinking if I play a second, it will help me get better at Wolf.). Who would be a good second to learn?
Are you coming to Zach’s, u fucking gay ass noob?
I can’t, I’m going to Cali to visit family that weekend (leaving Friday night). Otherwise I’d show you all just how crappy Wolf can be in the wrong hands.
O’right.
Seattle could use some more Shun’s…
VF5 is dying in the polls in the Northwest Majors Game Discussion Thread. VF5er’s need to represent. No offense to Tekken players, but I would rather see this then DR.
all the local guys should plan a weekly or even bi-weekly thing to come to versis and play matches >.> tekken too.
March is practically here and organized VF get-togethers haven’t been posted about as much…
I’ll be putting more effort into reorganizing at least Portland’s VF scene for some fun get-togethers. A lot of players really have improved so much and are real contenders now.
I think there are two great places for VF meetups and I’d like to encourage and use both:
-PSU via Random Select meetings
-Versis Entertainment Center (the game centers I operate)
I don’t know what the happenings at PSU have been like lately, so I can’t comment on them at all. But whenever I did play VF there, I had a good time and hope to keep it going. Random Select has quite a few players who are strong enough and VF. I can’t always make these meetings, but I would like to try to. If they’re happening, please let me know or post up here!
As for Versis, I’m the kind of guy who tries not to advertise his place too much, but it is a great place to play and I think the price is very reasonable (more than reasonable even). I’ll be calling around, trying to get more people committed or at least plan to travel by group next week for a VF get-together. I think it would be fun.
VF Get-togethers at Versis are pretty comfortable with the 72" screens on the main two stations (where we do play VF), the bar where you can play standing up or sitting down (it’s about the right height for standing up and playing with an arcade stick–and the viewing angle is right for the 72" screen), spectators able to sit front row or behind the bar, and the lounge behind the stations where people can also spectate the matches. Anyone playing would have access to the PCs (unless they were all taken up) and with enough people, a third station could be used for chilling out on another game.
We also have multicades now which are fun for some side distraction. They’re not perfect, but we could play Super Turbo or Alpha 3 or a large variety of other games on them. Even Puzzle Fighter.
If anyone wants to meet up privately to play, let me know. I’m generally down for that and I also don’t mind helping with the cost (within reason) since it’s free for me anyways.
-Chanchai
As far as gatherings are going on in Seattle, AFAIK it’s just Zach’s mostly with a few of us playing each other online…(I need to pry myself away from rock band and get back to playing against more people)
For me I have no problem playing against people online. If you see me just send a message and I’ll be down to play a few games here and there…GT’s is Frankdadank1.
I saw in the other results page that some people are interested in some match vids for VF. Did we want to try to set up something for that? I know that one of the grand finals is sittin pretty on Zach’s 360 as replay saves. Does anyone besides Zach have a video camera?