North Carolina Thread LXIV

Dune said you have to have skill to play Kyo though, which doesn’t equate to spamming double kicks. He has all the tools, but you have to actually know how to use all of them.

Yeah I know, I’m just trolling.

I like how everyone is saying Kensou has bad normals. cr.D and st.D are both great, cr.B is really good for hit confirms. st.b st.c chain being frame advantage is good too. I don’t really trust top player evaluations sometimes. People tend to rate the characters they like higher and the characters they don’t like lower. IE: every tokido tier list “akuma top tier”.

btw, Bringing my PS3 out to Erik’s tonight for KoF. Darrell if you wanna get some KoF in, drop on by!

Well he even said he just thought Kensou and Athena didn’t really fit with the flow of the game rather then being bad.

His normals are better then Athena’s.

Some folks rate their chars lower as well.

Also never use double kicks outside of combos on grapplers with instant grabs.

King has really powerful combos, that’s what makes her near-top in my eyes. She has a hard time forcing mistakes if she’s behind though, that’s her only flaw.

BTW US release of BB Extend is $40 on Valentine’s Day.

Every single character in KOF 13 can do “powerful combos”, that’s not what makes a character top tier.
Since every character has a combo that kill someone, it boils down to:
a) how EASY it is to land that combo;
-does the character have to force you into the corner, or can they TOD anywhere?
b) how EASY it is to confirm their damage
-does it have to off a close strong normal that you have like 2 frames to confirm off, or can they do it off a bunch of crouching light kicks that they have forever to confirm
c) how EASY it is to open up a character
-neutral game and mix-up potential (long quick sweeps, hit confirmable lows, HD confirmable overheads, command grabs, specials safe on block)
d) how HARD it is to catch the character
(how much stuff their EX invincible special goes through, anti-air pokes, projectiles)
e) damage-to-meter ratio

King ranks probably in the Top 5 of each of those categories.
Pretty much all she needed to be very good in console was better air normals and a cancelable slide. She got both of those and more. She has great projectiles in a game where projectiles were mostly nerfed, including the only air horizontal projectile, which pretty much owns the grapplers of the game (since they were some of her biggest counters).

We have people who play. If you post up here and have decent TV’s we will probably show up.

I might be going to this I know a lot of people in Greenville who are going.

How convenient, this means that you can take it to a nice dinner, get what you want out of the deal, and BREAK UP WITH IT THE NEXT DAY.

It’s funny cause it’s trueeee.

Gonna spend some time in AE 2012 with Evil Ryu, the buffs he got are great. Fei Long “nerfs” are like non existant if you know how to hit confirm. GUy and Cody’s “increased walk speed” is barely noticeable if at all. Most of the changes are horribly miniscule.

Also oni can do some crazy shit now… for instance:

Air double jump hit > Raging Demon

High anti air LP SRK > TK Air Raging Demon

Electric fireball in the corner > TK Air Raging Demon

Anti air fw+HK > TK air raging demon.

Air tatsu > TK air raging demon (works mid screen)

Probably some other shit he can do it off of too, shit looks crazy.

After hearing about my boy Terry, everything Dune said just went out the window. Maybe I’m in denial, but I can’t just give up on Bogard like that. Although I was thinking about using Kyo and Flame Iori. Hwa Jai I can accept that he is a beast.

You saw the vid against Justin, right? Anymore damage and we’ll need a ratio system for this game.

YES! That’s what I would of loved if the movies were like that. Sad that I like the 80s movie better than any of the new ones. Although out of the three the third one was done the best IMO, minus a lot of the unnecessary stuff put in it.

Will said he doesn’t care, so I’m assuming he is.

Subject: Carpool to EZ

Who is going to EZ from the RDU area? Trying to get a ride up there so I can win some money and bring back the gold.

Subject: KOF Storyline > SF Storyline

So I read up on the KOF storyline today. Must say that SNK at least put in some thought when it came to it, even the character personalities. I like some of the characters more now after reading up on them. Thought back to SF and couldn’t come up with what the main storyline about it all is. And team boss coming together only to disband after one tournament. And so many team swapping and retires and comebacks. Now I know why people refer to “teams” now.

But one thing got me thinking. Rugal being thought to be dead and coming back in '95 isn’t really bad. But Iori killed Mature and Vice and their both back in XIII as “spirits” if I’m not mistaken. Considering SNK doesn’t believe much in “If you’re dead you can’t come back,” does this mean perhaps Geese’s return and/or even Rugal?

And Garou seems like the 3rd Strike of SNK, even though I do believe Garou came out before 3rd Strike. I mean in the sense that a lot of characters were replaced by other characters with similar abilities/skills.

EDIT: Poor Team USA only entering into one tournament only to be forgotten. :frowning:

I’m planning on carpooling to EZ. Anyone else from RDU want in?

Also:

GATHERING! MY PLACE, THURSDAY!

Usual start time. Game focuses on KoF, UMVC, and AE 2012!!

Looking forward to seeing you guys out! :china:

Yo, can I catch a ride with you to EZ Saturday? Gonna “practice” up on my KOF, UMVC, and maybe AE 2012 “skills.”

OK guys here’s the deal, tomorrow I have to be.in Greensboro to take care of the ticket I got while coming back from the September rese. So im gonna be available for games in the afternoon. I wanna play some kof! If nobody in rdu hits me up I may go to the barfights since im gonna be so close.

I’m down Demo. Going to Erik’s yet again in the eve so if you wanna come over tomorrow sometime you’re welcome to come by. I don’t usually get up till like 5-6. When you planning on coming through?

Also Mike, you’re good to come.

The reason they threw Vice and Mature back is in because they’re palette swaps, so since they could reuse a lot of animations and modeling for both of them, that saved them a few months of development time.

Rugal doesn’t come back except for Dreammatches. The only playable tournament version of Rugal is in 98(UM) and is probably going to stay that way.Technically Omega Rugal is allowed in Japanese tournaments for KOF95 because that game is so broken that it doesn’t even matter.

Geese is even more rare. They intentionally keep Geese out of KOF to make people appreciate it more when he actually is in.

Garou came out around the same time as 3rd Strike but way after SF3: New Generation, so Garou: MotW definitely was inspired by the SF3 series, in terms of technical gameplay and the idea of a “new generation” of characters replacing old ones:
Kim --> His sons (each one has half his moveset plus a few unique moves)
Geese + Terry --> Rock
Mai + Alfred --> B. Jenet
Raiden --> Tizoc
Xiangfei and Tung --> Gato and Hotaru
Ryo + Takuma --> Butt

Suspicions confirmed. Yun feels like a SF4 character now. 2012 is ass.

You mean 2012 is still SF4 right? =P

Messed around with 2012 Evil Ryu for five minutes, and realized that I have pretty much zero interest in SF4.

Jon, count Me in for the Carcool to EZ Saturday. Just checked the Boards this morning so I didn’t know y’all were Playing lastnight as Dooms or I would’ve tried to make it ova there. I’m down to Play this afternoon if anyone is interested though. Holla @cha Boy. 1

There are between 4-7 of us. However the majority of HD TV’s lag so hopefully you guys have some CRT’s. Also Matt usually hosts a session about once a week if you wanna show up and play.

But you can stomp! A lot! Then get hit and take slightly less damage! On counter hit you can do some abitrary thing no one cares about! YEAH AE BUFFS!

I have no life so I’ll be over there again tonight lol.

So my carpool is looking like:

  1. Duo
  2. Sofa King
  3. Hoc4Life

I have that middle bitch seat so I could fit someone skinny, but I’m not sure if I wanna do that to the guys in the back considering everyone listed isn’t skinny lol

Seth is liable to back out though. Kris did you still wanna go?