Damn, is it really necessary to convert it twice just to see it? I would think that one capture to something nearly lossless like HuffYUV or DV would be better before encoding it to a low level and putting it online. I’d like to see these vids too.
Thanks
Thanks alot Tarkan, thats the one I was trying to find, didn’t know if it was still online. That the best old school memories thread.
Yeah I loved how games used to feed of that whole VHS era of genra flicks. Those 70’s & 80’s streetgang moves with all the sheepskin waistcoats, butterfly knives and subway trains filtering in thru double dragon and its offspring, same with the Ninja flicks and later the world tournament style.
We used to have those consolation throw rules too, funny how little isolated scenes round the world never dropped this from the WW days, despite CE’s inovation.
Great to see you Apoc, your finaly here. To mark the occasion, uploaded a couple of great HF Rog vs Sim matches here:
http://rapidshare.de/files/9569726/HF_Rog_vs_Sim.rar.html
Looking fwd to anything you have to say on HF, Tomo, oldschool, your HF Rog etc…
Yeah really looking fwd to this, cheers again Bob. Think your doing more than anyone else to help western SF2, like your part in Evo ST etc… Cheers mate
Yeah everyone go buy the Insanity DVD, then they’ll hopefully make one just as good next year. Support SF2!
btw as well as all the features jms kindly listed, there is a large multi version bug/ crazy CPS1 guile combo vid too. I think this may be taken from TZW Guile vid Sean Guilley made refrence to, either way, its amazing.
Crayfish.
The reason why I did it like this is beacuse I want to convert all my old (pre 1999) before the VHS tape degrades and I can not watch them any more. It has allready happend to a 2i tourny from Southern hills golf land from back in 98/99.
Along with this im going to do the same thing with any other tapes I have that not many ppl have seen.
thx again cigarbob!
off: crayfish I read that old forum featuring jchen and other oldskoolers and the guy the started the thread said he had posted another one asking some mk tiers and stuff. did u save that too? if so, plz link it to me via pm (I don’t wanna screw this beatiful thread :))
Hi mate, yeah I do have a bit of MK2 stuff. I’ll dig out what I can and bundle it on rapidshare. I warn you tho it may be a while, ive got like 1000000 cdr’s and am going back to my province for x-mas. Hopefully get some stuff up for you early Jan. BTW if you like MK2, get over to here:
http://www.darktemplarz.com/combovideos/
and get the video 'MKII Deconstructed ’ it is amazing. btw have you spoken to DreamTR, he apparently was/is the best MK2 player in the world.
Crayfish.
How do you save a thread
Thread tools, show printable version
at the top there is a link to show 10000 posts
save the html file
Edit: Owned by Rich with a better method
Hey Crayfish. I finally figured out how to record videos using Zsnes. I got some nice matches if you want me to send them to ya. They are less than 780Kb files. Let me know man!
thx man. plz send me whatever u can about any mk game. it would be much appreciated. I’ve seen the mk2 vid. heh, I even contributed to it with a kung alo kombo. thx anyways. no I haven’t spoked to DreamTR, I don’t know if it it’s a good idea to make such a thread :S jajajaja “info on mk ol skool scene”
Yeah Kung Lao was my man, whily thing into hat toss, cut em in half, classic.
Yeah that would be great Jessie, but why not bundle all you have onto rapidshare and post here for everyones benefit? We need all the HF we can get. Sure everyone would love to see anything you have. You ever play any other ‘name’ players on there like Apoc’s Rog etc? Thanks Jessie.
Crayfish,
Sweet! In those matches, the Sim player is simply not throwing:( One drill and Rpg should’ve lost. Also. he keeps missing the Sim combo. Jump frc, st.short, dash short upper, low short, dash short upper…then, just for fun, walk up like you’ll throw and jump in his face with fierce for another dizzy, lol. Stuff was fun! I gotta check that dvd:)
Thanks again Crayfish!
Apoc.
Motherfucking Apoc how you been dude I was wondering what happened to you. Good shit your still jumping kicking
Great to have you contributing Apoc, would really like to hear you breakdown the Rog vs Sim match.
Thanks to rapidshare upping its filesize from 50 to 100mb, I just uploaded that old Japanese (Gamest?) CE tournament vid over at the Korea CE thread:
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102064&page=8
directlink: http://rapidshare.de/files/9684197/SF2_jap_turn.mpg.html
I wonder how good that Rog player was with the beefed up HF rog!?
I really want to upload the Gamest HF vid, does anyone know where I can upload a file of 150meg?
Crayfish.
eek dont use rapidshare dude…
edit: yousendit.com has unlimited upload. Also im willing to upload that Gamest HF vid so make sure I get the link first! :wgrin:
I’ll do my best off the top. It’s been over a decade, lol. Really quick, me and Schaefer played 5 times in tourney and I lost ‘em all. However, Sagat doesn’t beat Rog. It’s a great match. In fact, my first tourney facing Watson I used Rog vs. Watts Ryu AND Sagat and single handedly eliminated him in winners’ and losers’ bracket. I lost one game of 7 then. Fine, they didn’t have Rog experience but I didn’t have “top player” experience as I didn’t play with those guys and had my local 'cades so, that just proves who brought serious Rog to the scene, lol.
K, Rog and Sim is in total favor of Sim if only because Sim can get away with a mistake or two but Rog can’t. Otherwise, it’s a great match. Part of Rog’s main strat is to not get knocked down or to get hit with a drill(Blocked or not) that also allows Sim to land. This means that you need disgression when attacking and appropriate range(Sounds like ol skool, huh? heheh).
When attacking, you want to make sure that Sim can’t move much. Meaning, don’t st. fierce if he can move. You can eat a low move and get tossed around. Either attack after he’s afraid to flinch or after he’s whiffed. That way you hit the start up of Sim’s moves or follow them in for free. I particular counter any whiffed legs over my head. This allows me more freedom to jump from farther when Sim realizes the risk in throwing out random standing kicks. Much like A3, Rog’s dash will go through the kicks at the right range and nail him for free(I took this part of Rog vs. Sim straight from HF). A good Sim will be VERY careful about throwing out st.kicks.
Staying just outside max slide range is perfect for TAPS through Sim’s punches while also being able to react instantly to any whiffed slides.
A smart Sim will only throw fireballs at a range where Rog can’t tap safely. It’s important to know this range and either jump over fireballs early or simply block while working toward better positioning. At this range the only thing to watch for is the jab fireball. An early jump will land on it so just block or jump straight up but only while Sim is in recoil.
Drills MUST be taken care of. If Sim gets to the air at the right range without you nailing him you must walk into it and either take the hit or block close enough to counter before he lands. If you block or get hit by it at this range, it’s over. Tossed to death. However, less than perfect drills are Rog’s best friend here. Instead of taking the hit high and throwing, Rog should take the hit high(blocked or not) and combo to dizzy and then the round is over with Rog winning. Still, once Rog is down, there’s no risk for Sim and, again, it’s over. As with many characters, st. jab counters clean from the proper range and st. strong is great too. Utilize all of your AA’s against Sim ON THE WAY UP. Dash is good to take a high hit to combo too.
When knocking down sim, Rog should get free damage. Deep TAP to jab dash and keep your range.
Rog’s big advantage is his ability to dizzy so fast. Sim is a big character and therefore takes some huge Rog combos like the one I listed in my last post. That combo is the ender because Sim has to guess to avoid further damage. After the 2nd dash upper, Rog can walk up and overhead with jumping fierce, throw or trip. The throw sets up more damage or even a glitch juggle(like that Japanese vid), usually in the corner(heheh Sim can do it to Rog too).
Once Sim is dizzy, Rog should win. Once Rog is down or thrown, Sim should win. Obviously Sim has the advantage since it’s pretty simple to work his advantage in the match whereas Rog takes a lil more brainpower. Sim will win the match most of the time since you don’t need to be a master to utilize his advantage whereas Rog must be a master to work his.
The Rog wins that tourney simply because his opponents aren’t bothering to throw when they should. Those players in that tourney couldn’t have hung at WF. Rog lost well before he made the finals and…well, most of those matches would’ve turned out differently had throws been used properly.
ummm…I guess the rest of the match comes down to Rog’s usual all-around game but these are the spots to watch for that make the difference. Sorry, that I couldn’t be more thorough but, it’s been a long time. If I missed an area in question, lemme know:)
Oh! Misplaced slides are Rog’s combo cue. Too far is a free hit and too close is a combo or dizzy.
Wow, haven’t thought through a post in a long time, heheh.
Sups Bacardi! Comin’ up baby!
Apoc.
Man! this thread is awesome. Makes me wanna play. I remember that Daigo A3 footage. sick! for back then. It was equivalent to him parrying chuns whole super with no life when Wong tried to chip him. A big up to all the Stfr pioneers for postin’…Now all we need is Valle’s $0.02,super street fighter man. When Wong came on the scene, I just knew Valle was gonna spank em’. nope. Man… I read this whole post it was so cool.
my boy apoc, sigh…
“my first tourney facing Watson I used Rog vs. Watts Ryu AND Sagat and single handedly eliminated him in winners’ and losers’ bracket. I lost one game of 7 then”
lol??
what version is this?? are you sure?? why dont we explain to people about how i invented tick fake grab into duck short hit confirm into short spin kick, repeat FTW? fucker, always looking to use me as a pedestal. if you forgot about this, lets just say “vegas” “circus circus” “playing for rolls of quarters”, just a few to refresh your o so selective memory.
ok, happy holidays, pz
watts
Pedestal? Shiet, on ol skool your washed up now and I’ve long since been done so…damn yo, your ego knows no bounds!
Nothing selective in my memory there. We played twice the day we first played on HF and you got punked twice which IN TURN caused you to figure a new “trick” out and somehow you think it means the match. You just did what we all did. You lost, bad, and went back to the drawing board. It isn’t like I’m saying I’m better considering I practiced with little more than scrubs while you chilled in LA with the best. This has been brought up before and, on the real, whose memory is selective? Last time you just claimed no Rog experience(although Thao played him so, … yeah).
13214324235 years later and still talkin’ shiet, lol.
Happy Holidays bro!
Apoc.
Damn yall I was there to.
I remember ripping both of your dirty ass’s with Gief.
And if you dont remember that you real “Selective memory”
Hugs to you both.