New Mexico, ABQ

I personally fail to see the argument that “Gamers can get the same or better at home, why go to the arcade?”

It makes very little sense, as gamers (particularly fighting games) have almost always had the option to take their business to their own home. Even when fighting games were booming in arcades in the states, people could still play those games at home… for the most part. People never went to the arcade to get a game they couldn’t get at home, they went to get an experience they couldn’t get at home.

Arcades don’t need better managers… if there was business, you better believe there’d be better management (a point Pi tried to illustrate with his experience as one for an arcade). If games make money, they get support, and if they don’t… then they don’t get support. The last fighting game I remember creating that atmosphere in New Mexico (in a big way) was Marvel 2, when it first came out. It’s the last game I can remember going into the arcade and actually waiting to play it because there were so many people (strangers) playing that you had to put your coin up.

The simple fact is, Albuquerque never had a big enough scene to support a real competitive fighting game environment. Even when the modern fighting game scene was in it’s hay-day, there were still only a handful of seriously interested people, and none of them stuck around long enough to get a real interest going. I wouldn’t feel too bad about it… the fighting game scene in tons of places is dying or has died. And perhaps home console dominated competition has taken over for that reason, and not the other way around. From what I saw in Davis, CA when I lived there (2003-2005), the people keeping the scene alive until the death rattle were the ones who eventually went to home console.

Anyway, here I’m talking about the fighting game scene dying, and I’m one of the guys who for all intents and purposes, threw in the towel on playing fighting games.

Without getting too much into explanation, I think the biggest reason arcade fighting games are a dying breed (and granted, I can’t say there’s hard proof for that statement, just what I’ve seen here, and in Davis) has nothing to do with management, or console fighters/options taking over. It’s in fact that tournament fighters are just going out of style. There was a time when SSF2 was a pretty game. Nowadays (especially 2D fighters), it’s hard to create a beautiful, yet intensely in-depth fighting game that competes with the hard-hitting graphics of certain console games, but also gives you all the complicated fast-paced action of games like Marvel or CVS2.

That’s my two cents.

Oh, and… how’s everyone been? And hey to all the new people that started posting since I last set foot in here.

I’ll play you anytime Onslaught.

I agree Rosencrantz. Fighters are out of style. People are just more into FPS and such these days. They can play people online, in large groups, form guilds and whatnot.

So whos going to where on sunday? Anyone else interested in Zals or is Tilt the way to go?

yes the scene is small, but think about how ahead of the curve we’ll be by the time sfiv comes out. you know that once that game comes out we’ll be able to have pretty decently sized tournaments .

i am merely trying to get prepared and have some sort of structure in place (that is a small community) so that we can further ourselves, and have tournaments and places for new comers to play in

I’ll let you know if we ever get another chance to hit up Alb again. I’m not fond of CvAss, but I can get a win once every 10 or 20 games (in El Paso anyways)

Brett! Where have you been fool! Stop playing dat WoW!

Must be that good. you had to reference him twice!

Brett!!! <3

wat?

Heh, hey guys. Pi, my GF saw you at a Cute is What We Aim For concert… she said “He sang loud, and he sang proud.” I think she also said that you rubbed up on her a couple times =P.

Anyway, I wasn’t trying to put more wood on the fire of the argument of why the fighting scene here or anywhere else is dying… mostly just trying to say “Don’t feel too terrible about it.” I respect the idea of trying to get something started, especially around here =).

wait are you still in abq?

Yeah, I’m still in ABQ. I think Prrrrrince Jefferey said something about me moving outta state. I may have given that impression incorrectly because I moved to a new location in ABQ.

so brett is still there :woot: i wanna play you when i visit you still following marvel or not really?

Games today! C’mon guys, Im tryin here. I’ll play marvel or whatever, just lets get some games going.

Zal, what are we doing today???

HAHAH!!! I was so drunk, they had to cut me off.

And as far as rubbing up on her. I don’t remember…any of that at all.

I’m really down for whatever.

you guys wanna come over?

Nah, not really. I don’t play much of any fighting game these days. Shit, I stuck the old SNES SF2T in the other day =P.

I’m probably rusty, but nothing a couple hours of play wouldn’t fix probably. Jefferey beat me pretty consistantly last time we played in Tilt… I think. =P

If you could get 30 people over for games in ABQ I would be amazed. Although it is hard to have people over cause every week I hold a SC4 gathering as a matter of fact I’m having a SC4 tourny next week at my househttp://http://nvgaonline.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=4697.
Anyway like I was saying it’s tuff to have everybody at your house at most theres 10 people but in a tiny room but it almost feels like an arcade people standing and waiting there turn scrunched up but the comps fierce wich =mad fun.

Now Iv’e been trying to make the whole fighting scene grow but I favor 3D still I love competition even if I can’t compete at the highest level I will put in a solid effort and If you guys need somewhere to play I have no problem with holding a gathering at my house the only problem is I have no roots in the 2D scene so someone that is involved can either contact me here or X-Topia and we could work something out like maybe Sundays and times and a count of how many I could expect to come but even if that doesn’t work out I still want to get some games with you guys one day.

if you’re down with us bringing a tv and ps2, i’m down to play wth you guys. I don’t really know shit about scIV, but i’m always down to learn.

Yeah man that’s cool with me I already have an extra TV but it’s only a 27"crt so if you guys have a better one you are more than welcome either way it still beats paying money to play though and I also have a Dreamcast and CvsS2 and MvsC2 and so far I think I have SAT and SUN off only thing is the house will be full SAT for the SC4 tourny but you guys are more than welcome to come and if you guys wanted to enter another game in the tourny that is okay to it might be late notice but hell it’s ALL for fun anyway just let me know what you guys wanna do.

Anybody who wants to enter the SC4 tourny has to post on X-Topia(so its free what could be better and I’m giving away an arcade stick the link is in my post above.

i still play that game competitively needs online play :lol:

Thought xbox live arcade had online play for it? Maybe it’s not Turbo…

they have hyper fighting, but xbox lag is shity :frowning:

if you want to get some games in sometime hit me up man. i love ST and CVS