Holy fuck this bickering is cool. Just kidding, shit’s wack. Yo my life revolves around school, fighting, and gaming (and motorsport <3)
Go esports. What’s gonna happen? Some big talkin bitch gonna judge me? Oh no what ever shall I do.
I freakin’ love this.
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EDIT: I, too, want Korean food.
I as well want Korean food. Or Thai…fuckin peppers man fuck yessssss.
Also that clip blew pretty huge Johhny. The end is really entertaining but the play is god awful even for cheese ><.
Not even kidding, Garrett and I have had better micro battles with scouting workers and I didn’t even have an attack move key that worked!
Matter of a fact I’ll make sure to cheese Mike sometime and save the replay
Let me give you my two cents on the Jwong/Juicebox situation. I’m not going to talk about the money or the perks; I don’t know how that works. I just know that last year, I had to pay Jim Kelly $20 for his autograph and that guy hasn’t been in a movie I’ve seen since Enter The Dragon (and he didn’t exactly win an Oscar for that… As a side note, PAX is much cooler than other cons about these things. I got Ken Levine to sign my copy of BioShock just by asking and he even threw in an Irrational Games art director Nate Wells). The point is, famous people like to get paid and hell if I know what the etiquette is for that. But what we’ve got is some people arguing that bringing in a Jawingawong or Juicyfruit will bring a lot of attention to the tournament and get more people to participate, and then others that see bringing in a “big” name will do absolutely nothing for the scene nationally (as I’m sure nobody will argue that it did last year when Jawanger beat the shit out of everyone, took all our money, bought a refrigerator magnet and a bag of blue meth, and went home) and be a waste of community funds. The thing is, these are two completely different sides of the coin.
Getting a big name to boost attendance and grow the event itself is a short-term goal. It’s personal, for us here. And to that end, there’s no doubt that’s what it will do. I understand last year was pretty big, attracted a lot of competitors, and certainly Jabba The Wong helped it get there. If you’re a casual player, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. We should be as inclusive as possible, and yes, I’m saying that because I most likely fall into that category. If we can make ACE star-studded and get as wide a range of player types, from as many places as possible, I’m all for it. Albuquerque deserves the big show.
But the long term goal, and this is trickier, is to get the scene on the national radar. And to do that at ACE, I believe, it’s not enough just to invite Jambox and put him up in a room. We have to *body *his ass. What you want is for these big players to go to the next big tournament, or get on a stream, and say “Watch out for those guys in the ABQ.” So what it comes down to is, who’s really hungry? Last year, we all walked away from a Jwodong match like we’d just seen a real life ass-whoopin’. The players who really want it should HATE to lose, even to a legend. Hell, I hate to lose, and I’m a casual player, and I lose all the time. So quit sandbagging it… Garrett. If you want Fight For The Future to someday become a stop on the Road To EVO, the path’s paved in dem Ws.
Well put. +1
What JW said. Thank you also for posting something very opinionated and not being a doucher about it.
I’m not really even sure what I think about this, but did you ever think that expanding the local scenes would help or make the path towards national recognition easier?
Also HATING to lose too much is honestly not good for competition. Yes, losing should drive you to work harder and yes, it is important to keep your eye on the prize, but if you put too much emphasis on winning people often start forgetting to learn from losses and either plateau or get worse. Certain athletes have admitted to hindering themselves because they put too much into winning and/or the money. Arrogance can turn into more issues, losing a love for what you are doing can happen, and eventually hitting a skill plateau or even not performing well can all stem from too much of a focus on the prize and not the actual process.
Still well put post, you made a lot of sense with what you said. Props!
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Nathan Barnatt is my personal hero.
Fuck I love Keith Apicary.
Stealing JW’s format.
This I’m 100% on board with. I think the first stop to making a tournament worth noticing however is having a tournament worth attending. Right now, looking at the New Mexico scene, I see a scene that looked a LOT like the scene in Arizona when SF4 first came out. I’m very confident in the quality of our players, the dedication of the scene, and above all else the drama that comes forward.
See, to me the drama is a sign that we at least care about the scene. We may not agree with where it’s going or what to do in order to get it to grow and flourish, but we genuinely give a damn. That much I can credit some people with – especially Montoya, Garrett, Dylan, and Zal.
The key here is not to let our differences consume us. There have been many times in Arizona when that scene was being constructed that the scene nearly fell apart. The key turning point that nearly crushed us there was when Blaz Blue got released. I cannot tell you how much drama came about because of it. I see much of the same division being caused by Marvel and the slew of other games being released. It was solved simply with the arrival of Californian players – an outer enemy that they could unite against. I see our rival here as being Colorado. Unfortunately, a certain amount of division still exists despite this. I honestly feel it’s because of all the new games coming out, but I also personally think many of these games have a limited life span. Whether that is for the best or not is up for debate.
In the end all I want to bring to the table is an opportunity for us to see more, play more, and do more. Juicebox, JWong, Ricky O, whatever you wanna bring is fine. The key is that we find more people, hone our skill sets, and try to find a more unified front. To me, having Juicebox over is really just a visit from a friend. If he can do some good and bring people up from Cruces, down from Colorado or over from Texas, that’s a win-win. Especially considering the cost which is relatively close to nothing.
tl;dr, play more and quit bitching.
I’m mostly just bummed that the games I like the most (Melty and SC5) seem to be liked by almost no one else. At least I’ve been playing more AE lately…
You coming this Friday, Sam? Or maybe we can netplay if you’re free after 7/8ish PM this week. How is it over wifi?
So, how many entrants do I need to guarantee to get KoF reconsidered for ACE? I mean, kind of silly not to run the main game of the one “big name” who’s confirmed to attend, right? Plus, how long do we really expect the tournaments on the non-capcom day to take? Could throw it on after T6 finishes up. I’ll be happy to handle brackets, promotion around the web, and whatever else making KoF happen entails.
ACE is running a short schedule on Friday (three hours less con time than last year) and are giving us zero leeway as far as extra time, which is why we have so little going on that day. I’ll talk to Jason about adding it last minute.
Just to contribute to the drama, I talk to Ricky Ortiz all the time, and he said that us paying for Wong to come here was really cool and he wishes he could’ve been able to go. I can say the same for Ross, because he said he’s always wanted to visit here, since his dad was thinking of moving here.
IMO, I think bringing him here may not have been the smartest idea money-wise, but I definitely think the name brought a lot more people here than it would’ve had he not shown up.
Also, why Juicebox?
Thanks for the free money, AJ. Any time you’re down to lose again, please let me know.
A major problem for us seems to be the date, which is out of our control. It’s good to know we are getting the notice of bigger players though. This is why I think it’s good to bring bigger guys out if we can do it without using a major portion of our budget. It attracts people to our event and gives us a chance to promote our town and scene to guys who will bring the good word about NM with them.
It would be great to have Ricky or Mike visit and play at FFF, though I’m sure this year they’ll be more focused on EVO points than green chile. While I don’t see us going the route of paying someone like we did with Justin again, we’d love to help them feel welcome to join us and check out Albuquerque and our awesome event!
It’s true that ACE is poorly timed for fighting games considering not one but two major fighting game events are going on that same weekend (one of them even has the silly CoD bullshit). Good time for a con, perhaps, bad time for a tournament, especially Albuquerque’s biggest tournament. C’est la vie.
If anybody has NS2, hit me up on steam: JohnnyWalkerBlack. That game is finally playable and fun.
Natural Selection 2?
What’s ACE? When is it?
ABQ Comic Expo, June 8-10.
Dylan’s signature for reference
Yeah last year had a similar issue. The problem is that there aren’t many open weekends at the convention center during the summer and the timing of game tournaments doesn’t rank high with those in charge of scheduling the comic (aka main) portion of the con. Plus there’s EDC as well, that’ll be stealing some people that would otherwise be showing up.
All that being said, FFF2 is shaping up to be a damn good event. Expect more cool stuff soon!