New coward crouch problems

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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On the original SF4 I just tapped up on the stick to get out of coward crouch, was easy and extremely useful, especially against Ryu. In SSF4 it isn’t so easy, there’s an extra element to getting out of coward crouch and I can’t figure what it is exactly. It seems to be that I press up and the 3 punches button but the timing is odd as well. Before as soon as I tapped up it came out of coward crouch, now it doesn’t always come out as soon as I press up+3 punches button, is there any other way to just cancel it so I am standing normally again after? Also have they changed it so we can’t jsut cancel it so easily anymore, tbh I though it was a bit overpowered against Ryu before, which I like obviously, but maybe they nerfed it?

I know I can go into balls etc from it, I’m not asking that before anyone says it and sorry for not know the terms for 3 punches etc, I never normally visit forums unless I need help so I don’t follow it all.

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You don’t have to press the 3 buttons to cancel the crouch, just reset stick to neutral. The crouch animation has a set time (53 frames) before it can be canceled out of early with a special move, super, or neutral reset. Otherwise it takes 90 frames.

These moves cancel coward crouch in order from startup(hops don’t hit duh):

Forward Hop
Backward Hop
Vertical Beast Roll
Super Combo
Light Electricity
Horizontal Beast Roll
Medium Electricity
Hard or EX Electricity
Focus Attack(uses meter, just reset to neutral then FA)
Rainbow Roll

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yeh, tried it in training mode, maybe its just that I’m doing things wrong, I suppose I have changed the way I play quite a bit since SSF4 came out

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or maybe before going straight to up worked but now we’re got to just go to neutral or something

5

Pressing up works just fine since it goes through neutral. I think in vanilla you just had to let off the buttons and it canceled, I forgot. I know there is a difference between the two versions.

6

In SSF4 you have to move the stick into neutral, not back. You will loose your charge getting out of the CC unless you hop backwards out of it.