Anyone have any good Taokaka matches that have been recorded? Really want to see how she plays
A bunch of the changes I’ve seen are kind of nice. I mean sure I’ll miss CS2 Noel, but on the plus side I don’t have to keep trying to get that damn Haida Loop down. That, and her new CSX combos look sexy as hell, and still really respectable. It kind of makes me sad to see Makoto fall so far even if I didn’t play her, but it makes me happy to see Tsubaki really low.
That being said, a couple of things I’ve heard/noticed/read lately from a number of Dustloop related things with regards to the tiers that you guys might be interested in. I’m not listing whole tiers, but I’ll summarize stuff I know.
S Tier: Apparently this belongs to Valkenhayn and Hakumen. There was some brief things at first with Ragna and a slight debate with Tao, but holes have been found with Ragna, so he’s dropped to low A, as has Tao.
A Tier: Hazama’s pretty high up here and is typically seen as the 4th best character in the game. Mu is actually seen as mid-high this by a lot of people as when CSX first came out, many were thinking of her as the best in the game. With that being said, this and B Tier are the two that are the most likely to change and flip around over the next few months.
B Tier: Pretty large mix of people such as Lambda, and Platinum. People are speculating that Tager’s B tier now, but there’s a relative debate on whether people are just having wishful thinking, or if he actually is. Rachel and Relius are question marks here as people are unsure if they’re B or C, although the latest list I saw had Relius high C and Rachel low B. A bunch of new Noel mixups and stuff seems to be coming out a bunch as she’s seeming less ‘nerfed’ and more like a different character (kinda like CS1 to CS2 Litchi). Good number of people are saying she’s high B, but some people in the ‘Vanguard’ are saying she has the potential to be low A based on further testing. Arakune seems smack in the middle of the tier, and Bang seems to bounce in and out of here from B to A- depending on who’s being asked.
C Tier: Essentially this is Litchi and Relius right about now. People are thinking Jin’s probably going to come out of it and get moved into B. People are noticing a lot of Carl nerfs apparently and reporting that he’s in here, while some others are insisting the nerfs he got were compensated somehow and that he should be a good bit higher. I’ve never played Carl so I really have no idea and can only go off what I’m hearing. Also, if the stuff about Tager turns out to be fluff, he’ll probably wind up back in here.
D Tier: It’s kind of universally accepted that Tsubaki and Makoto are here and here they’ll stay. Makoto seems to have been pummeled half to death with the Nerf Hammer, and a bunch of people are reporting Tsubaki got it pretty bad too.
So yeah, that’s my take on things from both what I’ve personally seen, and what I’ve heard. By no means take it as an “official finalized list”. Dunno, hopefully that clears up things for some people.
Actually, most recent tier list mumblings from folks “in the know” indicate that the most recent arcadia tier list basically only has S,A,B. So sorry about your Tsubaki hate, she might not be completely screwed after all.
I don’t really have Tsubaki hate per say, she’s just always been a pain to fight is all. And while I can understand there being only 3 tiers, I find it hard to believe that Lambda/Platinum/Relius are in the same tier as Makoto after they yanked out most of her teeth.
Livewire, where do you find this information? Because it looks like you’re kinda just making stuff up. Speculation is fine and all, but it’s still just speculation.
Also, have you actually watched any of Extend matches? Everyone looks fine.
There’s a couple of lesser known BB boards I go to where this stuff gets discussed, Lythi. And yeah, I’ve actually watched a good number of Extend matches. It’s just 2.5k for Makoto seems so…bizarre to me.
I know you meant well though, but it kind of sounded like you were sort of calling me out though, but I’m not sure why.
Fair enough, I’m just saying. And it wasn’t my intent to call you out or anything, but like I said, this is still just speculation. No one really knows yet, especially in North America/Europe, where only a handful of people have played the game, and even fewer are objective enough to make that sort of judgement, I imagine.
Plus, have you seen Makoto’s corner damage? Still nuts.
Pun intended.
Okay, that bad joke totally made up for everything. Though…gotta admit, that “Go! Go!” thing she says after combos is a little weird. Reminds me of “Bang Bang!!” from Star Ocean 2.
Did you watch the recent Makoto combo video? Plenty of practical stuff in there that generates plenty of damage. She’s just no longer doing 5k from a midscreen CH j.B. Reports are that Relius is only “pretty good” as well, and certainly, I haven’t seen any footage of him that lead me to believe he’d be some sort of dominant powerhouse, so I’m not sure why you find it so hard to believe that Makoto can still be solid?
And don’t worry, I’m sure they nerfed everything you hate about Tsubaki. The only thing keeping her out of the bottom tiers right now is some fairly monstrous damage possibilities with her install super.
I wouldn’t make any real judgements on Relius, I haven’t seen anything ridiculous from him either but it’s not like anyone really knows how to use him to capacity yet.
Well yeah, I think the main thing that’s bouncing Relius around in placement is that he’s still really new so people are learning how to use him. And granted aside from the matches I watch, I’ve only seen 2 Makoto combo videos from CSX, and one of them was the tutorial thing so it’s possible I’m missing some new big discovery.
Unless you are posting an arcadia tier list, its completely made up speculation with no bearing or facts to back it up. Even Makoto isnt as bad as you are making out. No, she cant do corner to corner 8k+ dmg combos anymore, but she still has all her tools for pressure and mixup and rushdown. She still does respectable damage and can break 5k in corner easily. Still has the godlike oki orb. She just cant do multiple loops with different levels of moves anymore and counter assault combos.
I said they were things I had read and heard. At no point did I say that it was set in stone “this is how it is” and that it was an Arcadia tier list (and even then, those have been proven wrong on rare occasion too). I even mentioned that I could be wrong on some things so I don’t know why you see it fit to call me out. I haven’t played the game, so I said it was secondhand information so I really have no idea what you’re so pissed about.
Your tier list is completely wrong, livewire. It doesn’t matter if you read discussions on random scrub boards between story mode theory and which girl char is the hottest. Secondhand gossip is not more credible than firsthand. This is entirely why tier list discussions are flat out forbidden on dustloop.
Seriously guys, get off my ass. I posted something based on things from people who actually HAVE the import version of the game. And it was posted with the best of intentions, so I really think treating it as if I was trolling when I wasn’t is entirely unnecessary and uncalled for. And since we’re speaking of Dustloop, I always thought tier list discussions being banned when people actually have first-hand access to a game and can actually test/confirm/deny/discover things to base their predictions off of was silly anyway. Just because I post something that is DISCUSSION and NOT a tier list or attempt at a tier list as was mentioned (and even if it was, a number of character things do match up with the tier list Arcadia put out), does NOT mean I’m saying, trying to say, or implying in any way that I know more about the game than people who play it every day. I’m as much of a Blazblue player and fan as everybody here is so I wouldn’t try and say things with the intent to stir shit, so I think some of you guys REALLY misunderstand my intentions.
Got BBCS for Xmas. Have fun kicking my newbie ass online!
Interesting…Amazon has Blazblue CS Extend regular and Limited edition listed as the same price ($39.96).
Sweet, I was going to pick up the LE of it anyway, but now just got another incentive to.
It’s probably just an error on Amazon’s part.