Need help against Ken/Ryu

Honestly dude, if you seriously want to be helped, you need to first deeply accept that there is a LOT you don’t know about this game. I don’t mean to sound condescending or harsh, I just really want to drive that point home. You learn the fastest when you feel like you know nothing because your mind is so open. Humble pie, man.

Thats the first thing I said in my post, that Im NEW to this, and to bare with my lack of experience, so I dont find this comment insulting.
You’re arguing with everyone who’s offered you advice thus far. These guys were nice enough to take the time to help you, especially when these kinds of threads usually just get hate-spammed and closed, or ignored altogether. (There are already existing threads in this subsection that cover everything you’re asking about.) I urge you to earnestly consider what they’re writing for you.

Im arguing with one random person, who im just ignoring now because I dont believe in starting shit on these forums.
Im thankful to everyone else that gave me their input and Im putting it to use.

This isn’t some wussy self-help book. This is friendly advice. This is how life works. Just like pretty much everything else in life, there are no magic secrets that will make you good at Street Fighter; you have to build up your skills bit by bit, a little at a time.

Im not asking for some magic formula, im just asking for a scenario, like saying “throw fireballs and then dash forward so when they jump in theyre suprised at how close u are or something, or dash back and throw more fireballs.”

I promise and guarantee you that a lot of denial stems from the arrogant attitude you’re brandishing all over the place in this thread, and that denial is specifically the biggest thing holding you back from growing into a stronger player.

What am i denying? Im not claiming Im any good, im just saying if i throw a fireball i cant throw an uppercut like ken/ryu do pretty much instantly which is why everyone on PC uses the two, not exaggerating.

The more you know you don’t know, the better you can become! :looney:

Im aware of how much I dont know, ive tried methods posted in other threads thus i finally made this one, all i was really asking for is a rotation, a what if, or what i should be trying to do the after they get X meters away, etc.
Ive received as much help from the others as I expected and Im thankful so thats it.

The problem is TSD offered pretty good advice and you chose to ignore it, that’s your call though. I’m still a noob at Sagat, but I find ken/ryu’s easier to deal with than most since 90% of the time they do the same thing. Zone them period! If you used a tiger shot close enough to them that they can jump in you messed up. Say hello to the tiger knee, it’s your best friend.

Oh okay, cool. :smile:

Wrong, Ken has horrible recovery on his fireball. As a matter of fact, Sagat has better recovery on his non-EX fireballs than both of them. It isn’t just a matter of what range you jump, it’s when you jump.

edit: fuck wrong thread lol

read your posts man, you had some smartass comment for everyone that tried to post help.

Basically, it’s all about the distance with which you throw your tiger shots. You’ll also need to react faster when pulling off TU when they jump in. If you’ve zoned correctly, the TU will punish them. Re-read tsd’s post. It really is how you should zone. You’ll need to know when to throw tiger shots and when not to. Don’t fall into a pattern and keep your opponent guessing. When you’re getting up close to your opponent, you’ll sometimes need to engage in pokes rather than fireballs. It’s all about more practice and experience.

LOL noobs like the OP make me laugh. Your being a total azz and u want help? U need to sit your azz down, stfu and listen to us. If you are dumb, just quit the game. Cant teach a retard how to be smart.

Im a sagat player, and I eat ken/ryu’s (any shoto) for breakfast. u should not have a freakin problem with them once u get at least decent.
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I love this thread

ban this troll and delete this thread please

lol troll my ass. u mad little boy? mad that im asking a justified question?
i tried ryu again and everything is x10 easier, anti air, grabs, which i never whiff like sagat does constantly…etc

Somebody get a mod to lock this piece of shit and warn the OP.

OP is undeniably a retard. Ignore him.

u kids still reviving this thread? no necro posting. plz lock or delete this thread, so these trolls stop feeding it, thanks.

The irony is crispy to perfection

Hi asamoraj. Still a shit talking quitter?

Quoted for truth

who are u?
ihave a DCing problem due to the game running off Steam…i never play Roses, aside from one of my friends, and I never to anyone but him, when it comes to Roses.

rofl disc at k.o. screen

lol does it make u mad troll?