Like I said before who cares what system tournaments are run on? Just play on the system that’s being featured at the tournament. The PS3 having more input delay than the 360 is nothing more than a rumor since no legit test has ever been done. Also West, the Japanese run console fighting game tournaments on the 360 because it’s cheaper.
Also more SF4 players are on XBox Live.
Anyone who seriously believes they are capable are detecting 1/30th of a frame delay is a delusional moron.
Nice sig West. :lol:
negative, tokido says lots of JP players feel the difference offline
see above
I’ve read most Japanese players say that they use the 360 just cause it’s cheaper. Also like I’ve already said there hasn’t been any legit tests to prove this. And if the 1/30th of a frame delay is true then does that really affect anyone? Is it even humanly possible to detect that during play?
there hasnt been a lot of testing because there is always something to scrutinize about the test. if the stick is native 360 ppl will complain, if the buttons are pressed by a human ppl will complain, if the television is not in a weightless environment ppl will complain.
i feel like there is lag on ps3, the few tests conducted show there is lag on ps3, jp+ the rest of the world says there is lag on ps3…i think imma roll with that
Video shows timing difference between SSF4 versions : News : EventHubs.com
This is mostly where people are probably getting it from I think. However I don’t really see the big deal saying “I lost because of that 1/30th frame delay messed me up” sounds like the most bullshit excuse ever. I own 360 and I play PS3 at tournaments. You lose because of lack of skill, while it’d be awesome if we were all robots and could detect that kind of delay we’re human.
keep in mind i have never ever ever blamed a loss on lag, but if u think 2 frames of input lag is insignificant you might be a “delusional moron”
Yeah I remember that video and that’s why I said there have been no legit tests to prove that the rumor is true. A free hand test is by no means legit.
It’s 2 frames over 1 second, lets not say stuff out of context. So that would literally mean that each frame comes out 1/30th of a frame slower which by all means is insignificant since no one can even detect that during play. So please lets stop saying 2 frames of lag cause out of context is sounds major, instead say 1/30th of a frame of lag. Also this is still a rumor since there are no legit tests.
I have SSF4 on both the PS3 and 360 and I can perform everything with the same exact timing on both consoles.
erase that whole first paragraph. the video obv shows that when he pushed the button it took 2 more frames for the move to come out. now if that test is reliable, which as far as im concerned, it is, then that means every time u push something its gonna come out 2 frames slower than what would happen on xbox. the guy has the technology to run frame-by-frame comparisons, im assuming hes competent enough to run a reliable test.
also, as foreshadowed in my earlier post. what would be a “legit test” ?
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more evidence
dont be ignorant lol
How can we be 100% certain that a free hand test is hitting on the same exact frame? If there was a test that guaranteed that the inputs were on the same exact frame then I would agree. Also lets not insult one another, I don’t want this to turn into something more than what it really is.
Either way at the end of the day just play on the console that’s being featured at the tournament.
no insults, he ran the same test, multiple times, synced the camera to the monitor, ran back everything frame by frame and got scientifically conclusive results.
when he pushed the buttons together he got 2 frame difference multiple times
when he pushed xbox 2 frames prior he got the inputs at the same time, multiple times
whats left to debate?
It may look like he’s pushed the button at the same time but it’s not proven, a free hand test is flawed from the beginning. Like one of the comments said on the video, either you need to make a controller that can split a signal to two consoles simultaneously or you need some kind of LED light installed to show when exactly the input signal is being sent. You can very well touch a button but not have it pressed down enough to send a signal, so it can seem as if you pressed it at the same time when you didn’t, thus why an LED would be useful.
frame by frame is good enough for me but to each his own
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Specifically:
"Sometimes experiments are conducted incorrectly and are at fault. If the results confirm the predictions, then the hypotheses are considered likely to be correct but might still be wrong and are subject to further testing.
It’s better for people not to throw around the science word carelessly, unless you have scientific method down pat.
I’m inclined to agree with the viewpoint that even if there is some factual basis to the lag issue, it’s not relevant enough to matter. You have top players who have played SF4 both in the arcades and on 360, then enter majors that run the game on PS3 (aka all of them) and still win. That’s enough “evidence” for me.
psn ppl will say no lag and xbl ppl will say lag
until jesus comes back and tells us
think what u wanna think
i still dont care i never complained about playing on ps3, just showing u guys whats what
wait… I don’t even… hold up.
I see what you did there lol.
As a side note, I don’t know if I’m comfortable with our thread being named after an actress who took her stage name from her flatulence.
I’m not saying that there isn’t lag, I’m saying that there is no proof of lag. Until a legit test is conducted then the argument will never be settled. Regardless just play on the system that the tournaments being ran on and lets not bring this argument back up.
We need mythbusters
or bill nye the science guy