Frank, I’ll post a date ASAP. I’m back in MN and currently getting resituated.
Seems like the SF scene will be me and STEFAN! Represent.
small update–I destroyed people at SVGL (3S). And owned in CVS2 in the board walk arcade. CVS2 is most popular around there… wonder why.
We should play it more though so I think it’s broke all over again.
-M
I felt I did better at Stefan’s place in 3S than I have done ever before. That being said, I still got waxed, but I think I put up more of a fight that day.
To put it in perspective, the first, oh, half a year to a year I knew of GGXX, I hated everything about it. I whined all day about DPs, air dust, priority, lockdowns, traps, THROWS, etc.
The ability of me being able to slightly improve at 3S is an omen of what happened to GGXX, I might actually become proficient in it, who knows.
dood. if you went and practiced a few random combos with each character you use, then you’d be mad good at those games. like if you practiced some 50% Dizzy combos and you can get them every time you attempted them, like your Lei Fei or Cassy combos, then you’d be set. same goes for Ibuki. from an objective view: i dunno if sa2 is the best super for you… your playing style is to take advantage of random moments and do some combo. even though her sa2 can be used thusly, you’d benefit from sa2 MORE so if you ticked into it… but you said before that you don’t like to base your style AROUND one move (or combo, etc). that’s why i started thinking you’d like sa3 more since you do those random moves all the time, and her Yami Shigure can link from like… 90% of the moves you use, it’s a short bar, you build meter like a fuggin’ MOFO, and it’s not a hugely involving combo. i dunno. that’s just my opinion and what i’ve noticed from your style.
but Dizzy… i swear. if you get some 50%'s down consistently, it’d absolutely suck to play against you 
good shit mike, i told you your yun was good stuff. i play alot of good people at 3s and really didnt have that much trouble with them. so i knew that you would do well against them. cvs2 was kinda a shock to see you did well considering you dont play that game very much…i wonder how i would do there then? =)
Rob,
Honestly I think you play 3S well. It’s hard to play against people like stefan, frank and I because we’ve played that game since FOREVER ago. I’ve watched plenty of vids of you from random saturdays and you play well. The key to Ibuki–regardless of super because her game does NOT revolve around supers–is a little bit of randomness and GOOD mixup. She has great high low games. I know you probably like to play off the cuff and not plan anything out but it may help out to do so. Everything I do with Yun leads somewhere predetermined. That being said if I have a setup I chose from 3 other possible followups and mix them up and so on… I’d hate to see somebody like you fade from the 3S scene but I can understand if the love is not there. :razzy:
As far as CVS2-I think I play that game WAY better in arcade. I think I benefit from the atmosphere. That being said Frank I’m sure you would destroy everybody out there.
Happy Holidays everybody!
I’ll post up a date as soon as I know.
My stick works again, so I can probably try it at the next gathering again, unless you all have enough sticks, then I’ll just use yours. Don’t matter to me.
Mike: Thanks for the boost of confidence. I posted above why I hated GG, but somehow came to terms with it and do pseudo-decently in that game. I was just comparing it to how I feel / felt about 3S. With every game I’ve ever played seriously, there’s been a period of “I hate my life”, followed by a ‘click’ that was more or less a moment of enlightenment. That happened in GG, SC2, and VF4, but has yet to occur in 3S. I felt like I was getting close, but like you said, it’s difficult to play against all of you who have been busy at it since the beginning of time.
I do like to play more or less on my toes, as you can probably tell from my Dizzy play style. I don’t have any solid setups that force the opponent in to doing what I want, but rather I play on more of a filter mindset. I can remove one option, but there are still five other ways to counter what I’m doing, but if you do the ONE I’ve filtered, I have to be ready to hit after that, too.
Example, if I toss a low laser fish, I assume the person I’m playing against can recognize which is the laser, so they’ll either jump up or block. If you block, that just lets me get closer to throw something else, if you jump I have to meet you and either air move or throw, but the truth of the matter is, not everyone can immediately tell which fish is what, so if you get hit, I have to combo off of that too.
Back to 3S, the biggest problem I had at Stefan’s was the fact that I couldn’t get close enough for chains. The only chain I landed successfully multiple times was the air j>towards&f, cause well, there was a lot of air stuff going on. But getting close enough on the ground for a jab seemed out of the question against Hugo, Alex, and Ken.
The only option I’m seeing for that is parry in to chain, but even so, their range is so far that my jab probably wouldn’t even hit on a parry. So, what I’ve ended up doing, is just a lot of randomness as you say, towards and forward, ducking roundhouse, air chain, ducking strong>kicks.
Oh, and two things I was curious about Mike, I did a wacky chain, something like close fierce>ducking roundhouse. I got a 3 hit combo? Thought that was weird.
Second, was I somehow combo’d in to the super grab, I think it was off an air move, probably either jab or fierce, but not 100% sure, maybe you know?
Maobei, you probably don’t intend what you say to be taken this way, but it seems like whenever you give me suggestions on characters, that the current way I play is completely incorrect.
It seems that every week, you have this new awesome strategy that will end all. The thing is, it’s always with a different character. So, you spend the entire duration of the get-together putzing around with a character you don’t play, only to land a theory combo once. What’s the strategy there?
It’s very, very difficult to take you seriously, from my point of view, if you’re going to spend an entire GG session jumping back and forth with Johnny trying to get an FRC, or trying standing gigas over and over without any real set up.
When you tell me that you know how my Dizzy could be 100x better if I just did what you said, when you don’t play the character, or much less the game (as you say, anyway), I’m sure you can imagine how much weight I’ll put in to those comments.
Maybe if you decided to stick with a single character, and not waste so many hours on combos you saw in a match video, then never touch the character again. . . Maybe then Hugo could start representing a bit more.
In response to VF and SC2, you know how complicated those combos are.
Cassy: Move that knocks you in to the air>236b
That’s every combo she has.
Lei Fei: pp k/p/d.k>f.k>f.k
Combo 2: d.pkg>pk>b.gk>d.k
Reversal: u.pkg
That’s all I do, and if you play VF for like 10 minutes you could do it too. It’s not advanced in any way. (Makes you wonder how good those WI/Chi people are, eh? :-p Never have I seen so many people pissed off after losing)
In closing. In GG, I think I might be aware of what I’m doing when I play.
In 3S, I’m honestly not, but saying that I will win if I swap supers is really irritating, simply because that isn’t the case at all.
For you, my suggestion would be to stick with one character, I can only speak for myself when I say this, but I don’t really give a damn if you can or can not do a combo with a character you don’t regularly play. You’re not going to make anyone go “Ooo Aaahh” if you land a 4000 hit combo with Chipp, they’re just going to say “Wow, ok, that only took seven hours, that was it?”
nah… the Johnny FRC’ing is me trying to learn Johnny seriously. i just suck hardcore. i hafta get those divine blade FRCs if my Johnny can be more of a threat. without those two FRCs, it’s kinda like doing ice spikes without the frc… it’s useable, just not too safe and severely denies a bunch of very nice options. i was kinda curious about Slayer, but i dunno. all i know about reload is that my main got destroyed, so i’m pretty much scrubbing around for a new character to use. and since i’ve used Johnny in ggx and somewhat in xx, i figure i’d go back to basics and see where it takes me for reload.
oh. and the comments i give you about Dizzy is purely based on what i’ve seen happen in tons of match vids. they’re not theory combos, they’re actual live-use combos in matches. i just keep trying to do random combos with characters i don’t play because i don’t have a character i play anymore, so i’m experimenting around. i apologize if that made you think all my suggestions were whimsical (which they somewhat are… it’s like “steal the combo from match video of the week” type of thing). but the stuff for Dizzy weren’t random stuff I came up with. just trying to relay some combos and stuff i’ve seen in other matches (not 100% stun gauge combo videos).
so i dunno. tell me how bad my Johnny is and where i have the most openings, disregarding all those holes i have in my offense due to randomly trying frc stuff. i’m well aware of those openings ^^;
i’mma practicing his combos on xx at home, but it’s not quite the same.
input plz, kthx ^^
If Johnny’s going to be your new main, I can start paying more attention to when there are insanely punishable holes in traps and whatnot, then letting you know.
I can’t think of any off the top of my head, but I’ll try to keep an eye out next time.
enough garbage talk…lol j/k, MERRY MUTHAPHUCKKIN CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! so when are we playing again?
Frank
the Frankmeister is getting fiesty. we should play soon before he lets loose his drunken rage… that’ll be some sight… having a roaring-ass drunk Frank chugging down the hard ale… that’ll be quite the Frank an’ stein. oh-ho ho ho ho ^o^
but yes. when do we play next?
Dudes,
So we can play in the middle of the week but here’s the thing. I’ve got work till around 6. Who else works during the day? Is it better to schedule it someplace else (stefan’s house) so you guys who don’t have work or school can play earlier? Either way we’ll play saturday for sure but I wanted to post up and let people know I can’t start until the evening during the week.
Rob–close fierce DOES chain into low roundhouse which can then be chained into standing roundhouse. If you get the close standing roundhouse you can do the Yarou Doshi MikeZ setup. Which is the the chain just mentioned… juggle with s.roundhouse (far) dash… SAII. Good stuff. Timing is pretty tight though.
-M
I work during the day too, usually until 5:00. I’m fine with just getting together for a few hours some night this week.
This saturday is New Years which means staying up late the night before and watching college football during the day. I’ll have to see if there are any games that I want to see, otherwise I think I’d be up for doing some gaming on saturday too.
[Edit:] Wisconsin is playing on Jan 1 at 10:00AM, so I will probably drop by after it’s done, so about 2:00 or so I’d guess.
tape the games to watch on sunday, dammit. there’s only one saturday to spend with people who wish to kill you all night long in a virtual environment that week ^_~
who REALLY gives a shit about New Years anyway? I want to play at least one more time, and not for 1 hour. Yeah, I know sometimes you can’t have your cake and eat it too, but I see that Big Mike is willing to play other days than we usually do. SO…Get your asses over there.
Frank
i agree. no kidding, it’s just another day on planet earth… cough
Stefan, wouldn’t you rather spend “new year’s day” with “touchy” gigases instead of “touchy” downs (oh… the pain)? 
I just noticed Maobei’s new signature 
I have an odd urge to play again though, from the looks of things I’m not exactly sure what’s going on.
Are we playing during the day, evening, Stefan’s, Mike’s, weekday, weekend?
DP nfo asap plz
Since the Wisconsin game is on early , I should be ready to play on Saturday about the same time I’d be ready to play otherwise (about 2:00 or so). As for gaming during the week, any word Mike…? Otherwise, I’d be open for having another session at my place on Wednesday night. I still only have 1 TV, so if we have more than 3 people playing, it might get a touch slow unless someone wants to bring another TV (unless Mike wants to have it at his place). Thursday would also work for me, so let me know if Wed. doesn’t.
Also, the Neo Gathering is coming up in a little over a week. Does anyone have directions to the event (and plans to go)? Rob, I don’t see any cock-offs on the Neo-boards 
. Time to get some smack-talk going.
“I win!” “I win again!” "Maobei, start trying, will you?"
Pretend I’m there. :^) I’ll miss ya, Frank…
Oh, and Rob: People use the knife super because it gives you a zillion bars of EX, and her EX’s (neckbreaker, knives, and multikicks) are really good. Plus you don’t get to really chip people with Yaoi Doujin, though if you gotta use it, try DF+Fwd into it.
Mike Z
Wat up Mr. Z, yeah kinda sad that I am going back home, these MN peeps were starting to grow on me. Anyways, I guess I have to resign to playing Cleveland people now…I guess their scene is finally growing again. It used to be pretty solid back in Vietnam, but anyways, I’m sure I’ll see you again soon.
Let’s play people.
Frank
i’ve seen a yaoi doujin with Chipp. it can be done. i was there.