Not sure what you mean. How do I option select cr. mp? I dont know dick about os aside from crouch+throw. I threw him outta the dive like once, by accident.
But! After spending some time in training mode, I’ve learned that if you time juri’s cr. mk, it puts her low enough so that the condor dive misses her! You also have enough time to punish with cr. mk. into hk pinwheel/fuhajin store, sweep and backdash, or catch him with ultra2! It depends on whether he lands in front of or behind you. “Worst case” scenario, he lands in front of you and eats a cr. mk (unless you knew he’d land in front of you, in which case you can follow that up with pinwheel or fuhajin). Best case scenario, he lands behind you and is too dumbfounded to react in time to your punish.
I’m going to try this tomorrow and hope for the best!
In this vidéo he make -> cr.lp(any poke like cr.mp or st.hp) ~ cr.lk cr.lp (throw command).
If his oppoment try to throw, he throw too else, this is the cr.lp who come out. Now if we take the os : cr.mp ~ cr.lk cr.lp, if your oppoment try to throwing you after his dive, your thrown come out and reset the pressing else if he dive again, the cr.mp come out and punish him.
Yea Kichigai and I have the same idea against divekicks. Oh and the T. Hawk matchup is ridiculously in Juri’s favor. All you have to do is press st.mk and ALWAYS have HK fireball stored, it literally makes it so he can never dive, and he can’t jump close either with it. st.MK controls the ground game so well against Hawk, so abuse the fuck out of it, that’s all i got for you.
Don’t play on 360 anymore but if I can get some free Live then I’ll play with you and try to give you tips. I live in Socal so we are relatively close and I think my mic still works so I’ll see whats up and try to teach you some stuff.
In the match against Makoto he was probably teasing you. He did just one Karakusa grab in the end to win and that was intentional. Rest was just pokes.
Had he done the fukiage/tsurugi stuff and the karakusa/Ultra set-ups, it would have been an easy 3 set match for him, probably with a perfect.
Hardly the tryhard type you mention. I’d avoid such training partners too if he doesnt go 100 %
It sounds like you really do need some more people to play with. If I had internet worth a damn or an xbox I would love to play some. But as some others have said search for some groups of people to play with even online, and hang out in endless lobbies.
Don’t let someone ruin all the fun for you. If anything tell him to shut up.
Sounds like a guy I used to play with. He wasn’t really any good (jumps way too much, doesn’t know any optimized combos/punishes, can’t do any links) and I knew I could beat him offline, and he’d often win maybe 8 games and then I’d win 2. But when I win those 2 out of 10 games, this guy is so visibly angry. He cusses, gets angry, and tells me not to play Ryu mirrors because Ryu is his “nigga” and that I “can’t fuck with [his] main” and that I have to play some other character.
I played E. Ryu (who I play every now and then) and some Poison (also very rarely I play her) and he wins and gets all smug. He’s like “yo you gotta give me respect for that” and I obviously am not going to give respect to someone who doesn’t even want to play against my main.
He just takes it so seriously and personally and I honestly can’t deal with that - I get salty too, but I’m good at handling losses. I know why I lose, and I try to adjust and adapt.
These kind of people are just not good training partners, because they really won’t help you get any better. Once you expose their fraudulent play and start beating them, I can almost guarantee they’ll just ragequit and not even play with you anymore. That’s what happened to me (literally all I had to do was get used to DP timing online because he’s so jump-happy).
I’d look for an offline scene, if I were you. I play offline mainly, but every now and then hop on PSN only to be disappointed.
I second looking for an offline scene. I live in a country completely devoid of any fighting game scenes and I always get hella jealous when I see how US players have such easy access to them. Make use of it, son.
Gonna be honest, it sounds like the training stopped once you earned your first few wins.
I don’t know if this other player sees you as a rival, but it’s definitely not a training relationship anymore.
You’re doing better than a good amount of other players, though…you’re watching the game tapes! Even though the relationship here doesn’t seem entirely healthy, I would use this as a great learning opportunity. Take the advice people are giving out in this thread, especially on the OSes (what a technical game) and check your footage for scenarios that seemed uncomfortable for you–run those back with the record feature and try finding out answers to these situations one-by-one.
Play him at your leisure, but it seems like it would be fun to find out answers to his playstyle and start catching up to him over time.
You should focus on improving your game on your own. You’ve already taken a good step by asking people for advice and reviewing videos.
Honestly it shouldn’t matter what kind of attitude your friend/training partner has. SF is something you CAN improve on your own, so in terms of getting better at the game whether he’s nice or a dick is kind of irrelevant. If it’s something that bothers you then you should probably toughen up or just not play with them anymore. If there are no other local players then just play online. I don’t know why you can’t travel, but as soon as that option is available to you, maybe you should look into places you can go.
Ignore trash talk and attitude. You’d be amazed what you can learn if you pay attention and ignore everything but the game. Player attitude is just a distraction. If it gets to you it means you’re not focused enough.
Yeah, you’re right. Lately, I’ve just decided to not only stop worrying about beating him, but also stop giving a damn about his attitude. I’ve noticed I get far less frustrated when I just stop caring and play. Anytime he says something, I just shrug it off.
“YOU DONT DO COMBOS, YOU JUST THROW SHIT OUT THERE!”
“Then block and punish it.”
“EVERY TIME I THINK YOU’VE LEARNED, AND YOU DONT.”
“Learn to respect my wakeup.”
“EVERYTHING YOU DO IS SO UNSAFE!”
“Well, stop getting hit by it.”
“WOW, RANDOM ULTRA, OK.”
“You were pressing buttons.”
I’m content to just piss him off by “scrubbing out a win” now. This match here is a good example of what I mean. I even took the liberty of spicing it up for ya’ll.
There was enough salt for a big bowl of popcorn after that one, haha. After that match, I got him so afraid of my wakeups, that he backed off every single time he got a hard knockdown, which was great for me, since now I had a safe wakeup the whole match, lol. #MINDGAMES.
I’d also suggest finding a new training partner. There’s no point in consistently playing with someone you don’t like, especially when there’s nothing at stake.
Also, he’s not skilled enough to punish your bad habits consistently. I mean, that’s not too bad a thing since it’s entirely possible to identify and break them by sharing the videos here, but since he’s letting you get away with so much stuff, IMO it seems like he’s going to hold you back once you surpass him. From what I’ve read from the thread, your approach and attitude towards the game compared to your partner’s will probably lead you to surpassing him eventually.
So yeah, if your partner is unpleasant enough to play with to the point of almost quitting the game, you might as well ditch him because it’s IMO your free time is too precious for that. Since you play on console I don’t reckon it’d be too hard to find someone who’s not only a better player, but someone you will enjoy playing with. It’ll probably be a hassle but honestly from how you’ve described him I don’t think I could stand playing with that guy for more than a week.
idk, your friend is kind of buttcheeks, ill help you learn as long as you have a mic since communicating during the match will be easier/helpful. my GT is my username and ill be back home on the 7th so we can start then should you want to play.
I watched some of the videos.
Here are a few tips.
First of all, you are both learning the game, there should be no animosity towards each other.
Since you are both low level players (nothing wrong with that) YOU WILL make a lot of mistakes, a lot of bad reads and not have enough knowledge to escape certain setups and situations, etc.
One point I want emphasize is that your friend is correct about the wake up situation. You should start by understanding the concept of risk versus reward. Say you attempt a reversal on wake up and I were to block it as Makoto, you will often lose a third or more of your life. Now consider the hit, in which case your opponent loses maybe 10% or more if you spend a little meter. The problem is, you have to guess and he doesn’t.
There are a time and place for wake up reversals and you need to be able to recognize them, distinctly.
Block more effectively and know when to punish. If you opponent is pressuring you, do you know when it’s safe to attempt an escape without a reversal or backdash? If you don’t that’s ok, but you need to learn to recognize these sorts of problems and focus on them in the match.
You lack execution and are paying for it, take some time to focus on your combos. You need to maximize all damage output in every situation outside of set ups.
Wish I could be more concise, but I hope some of that was at least a little helpful.
This is a good point. It’s just something that seems to happen though. I see it happen in every game I play. Some people just want to feel better than someone else. It can really suck and its a big thing that ruins a lot of competitive games for me.
It’s good to see you’re starting to ignore him though. It can help learning in a big way.
You will see it and hear a lot. But that doesn’t mean it’s always a bad thing. Often times you’ll be in the other persons shoes, such as when you are playing online and beating some scrub up thinking “wow no way did he just wake up super” and at the very least you have made the mental leap in order to recognize bad a habit when you see one, on the other hand someone else will be saying the same thing to you about your horrible habit of crouch teching every throw. Just as an example.
You’ll find more often than not that you’ll have a friendly rivalry with your training partners, sometimes devolving into simple shit talking or calling out each others mistakes and bad habits. Some times they are just mad when something works on them.
Just try to laugh it off and focus on your own growth.
