Hey guys, another DMC fanboy here. I didn’t originally pick up a vergil dante team cause I saw everyone else doing it, a few months short of a year later I still see everyone else having fun doing it, so why not?! I wanna have fun with the twins too!
So my debate, who’s the third for the team? I don’t want Zero may cry… too broken, and I just don’t like zero.
I can adequately play Hawkeye and Taskmaster, so they come to mind, seeing as they fit anywhere on any team. But I really wanted wesker, cause I feel he has wonderful synergy with the twins and his derpy otg to ezmode combos. Not to mention dark wesker. Only thing I worry about with the oroboros man is that i’m missing out on a beam assist by not picking hawkeye or tasky. counters to the beam argument are- if dante builds enough meter on point, I can keep swords rolling enough to protect vergil’s teleports. another, less favorable argument is that dante has weasel shot- my least favorite assist for him =(.
‘too broken’ is a good thing.
dark wesker is not that good except vs inexperienced players or if you’re playing online, in which case he is a god.
best team order is probably dante (meter builder), vergil (the person who will actually be killing and wrecking your opponent’s shit), assist character.
dante should have jam session or crystal, depending on the needs of your third. good candidates for the 3rd position include strider, magneto, hawkeye, unibeam.
oh, my original point was going to be that there’s a sticked thread for this, for team-building.
where somebody who actually knows what they’re talking about (i.e. not me) can help you out.
i read it, and when i saw “mvc3” i was like “shit’s old…” and i couldn’t find anything tailored specifically for the twins… they should have a twins team building thread. Something i really wanted to work with wesker is how amazing he is with dante, so many unblockable set ups…
But yea, the order was what i was thinking, pretty much… Dante/Vergil/XXX… i was even thinking iron man. He’s a very conditional character. the more i think of it the more i’m leaning towards hawkeye… But i just can’t get that Dante forced neutral tech unblockable set up out of my head… it’s like a guarantee reset into an unblockable- which is amazing for a team battery. And yea, dark wesker’s gimick is getting old. If I ran him i’d either blow lv.2 on vergil, or tag in wesker with vergil assist. and save for dark vergil. But, Lv. 3 hawkeye imo is among the best anchors in the game… one of those commonly overlooked by the dooms, akumas, vergils, weskers. So many amazing anchors that people over look… Like skrull where they may as well be a whole other character entirely- vs a sped up more damaging version of their previous self (doom, akuma, wesker).
Thanks for your reply regardless… input is helping me with the argument in my head.
OMG YOU GUYS! that’s it! I had no idea there was strange synergy… unless you guys are trolling me… I’ve been looking for a solid strange team since release! Was gonna do Strange/Dorm/Doom… Team Ph. Dormammu… but … i didn’t wanna learn doom =.
So for real though, The twins work well with strange? Bolts or Eye assist?
To make the point clear, Zero May Cry is not that broken, in fact there are a lot better teams, it is overrated as hell, if you consider the 2 most used team building formats are 2 point characters+ assist or 1 point+2 assists or the best 1 point+point with good assist+ assist, and Zero May cry doesn’t fit completely the requirements, Zero is godlike with Jam Session, but Dante with Rapid Slash is not that great compared to MorriDoom or Magnet Drones so after Zero dies your team doesn’t have another way to turn the thing to your favor , yeah vergil is one of the best anchors, but he relies commpletely in touching the ground, before that he is vulnerable as hell to mixups, and in this game blocking is risky and almost all the time you need to guess, that is why i say Zero/Dante/Strider is a lot better taking into account how a team needs to be properly built, now for the Twins the good thing is that they have synergy with a lot of the cast, but if you want to build a proper team around them i really suggest to put Hawkeye or Magneto in the back, if you want them to shine and obliterate teams you don’t need to search more, with that their neutral game becomes enchanced and your team has a lot greater synergy, Vergil/Dante/Strider could work very well also, you could use weasol shot for vergil neutral game and vajra for combo extensions, and if vergil dies you have Dante/Strider who form an excellent duo and one of the top 5 in this game, why? easy, you can put Zerp,Viper,Magneto or Vergil in the front and all of them benefit greatly of this duo, so my recommendations will be:
thanks, what you said makes a ton of sense… i dunno if i just subscribe to the same schools of thought, or it’s just the truth of the game… but i’m leaning toward strider… while hawkeye is an awesome anchor/assist… with some research Ver/Dan/Str has like a million ToD combos. So weasel over jam and carrot huh? hmmm… also, even though strider isn’t a beam, he tracks like a boss. I feel like his effectiveness is beam-like if not better.
P.S. In vanilla i could bold move cancel teleport all day off of stinger… umvc3 it feels different… what am i doing wrong?
Don’t worry it happened to all Dante players, execution is tighter with Dante in this game, even Bold Cancels, try to do it a little before you think and you should be fine after a week or two, With Vergil the best assist is Weasel shot for left/right mixups Crystal is good for combo extensions but you can do that with Vajra(though is a bit more difficult) so no point in using it.
I’d recommend going with either crystal or Jam session for strider may cry. Weasel Shot is good, but Vajra has better range in neutral and the other two also allow for left/right mixups and more chip/lockdown while giving better combo extensions, Crystal giving a better confirm off helm breakers is good enough to use it over weasel shot.