Do you go to local getherings…or tournaments?
even after practicing in training mode you still have to practice during a game. during a fight it’s different cause you don’t know it’s coming. in training mode you know it’s coming cause it’s playing back a series of inputs. that’s a very very big difference. same thing w/ combos. doing it in training is a lot different than doing it in a match.
boards and bricks don’t hit back.
Thanks I’ll check it out ASAP.
Guilty of all of this its like you read me out. Trying to break these imperfections is gonna be hard but I’m gonna get some critique from SRK at the matchup forum.
I used to play with friends. Over at their house or at mine crazy bets and stuff. Good times but that was a long time ago.
If you’re on PSN and you have a mic I can give you tips while we fight rather than stuff you read online and then go try out later.
It could be just a few small things that catch you which fixing could turn it all around for you. Every time I level up it’s when I finally have an epiphany on 1 small thing that opens a lot of doors for me. I’d be more than willing to try to help you the same way.
I offer this to every newbie that posts a lot “I still suck” threads like this. I’m willing to try to help.
this is why i suggest just playing the game w/ basics and also not to watch vids so much. they’re helpful, but sometimes harmful especially if you don’t have a grasp on the fundamentals yet. ex. daigo vs mago match. you watch a vid and see daigo and mago throwing bunch of fireballs so you try to ‘zone’ online. but, if you’re playing against a very jumpy or twitchy opponent (someone who jumps at the slightest different animation) you’re going to get smack w/ a jump-in a whole lot even if you threw fireballs at a good distances. you lose and then you wonder why your ‘zoning’ didn’t work. it’s cause you didn’t play the opponent. a lot of people don’t even see the feints/fakes/baits, etc.when they watch a top pro fight cause it’s easier to see a fireball right? it’s harder to see the stuff they didn’t do (which when watching a vid you should also be doing, but it’s hard to see if you don’t know the game very well). so in your match, you didn’t even have to ‘zone.’ all you had to do was feint a few things and anti-air them when they try a jump-in cause they’re a twitchy/jumpy opponent. you’re going to be playing all types of players so you need to adjust.
Just quit. Sell your stick, trade in the game, and do something you suck at less.
Dude.
Take a deep breath here.
You, sir, are going about it all wrong. Instead of scouring these forums for info at every chance, you should do more solo/offline/online practicing and damn what the nay-sayers would have you believe.
The first step to getting good at a game, even on a competitive level, is to enjoy what you’re playing.
By watching all those videos and reading up on all these combos you’ve made the fatal flaw of OVERanalyzing the game and your tactics.
You have to understand that a lot of the videos and combo threads and what have you were penned or recorded by folks who’ve been at this since… well… since I was no more than 8 or 9 (when Street Fighter II first came out). Feel me?
I grew up watching SFII matches in a crowded bowling alley and wishing so much I could play with the big boys.
Many folks my age just kept practicing and became the people posting top notch strats and vids.
Others, such as myself, simply had other stuff to do and couldn’t rediscover their love for fighters until later on.
Either way, we keep playing because we enjoy it. Win or lose. Online or off. Tuesday or Friday.
Short, but I actually nominated this for an article.
I’ve actually noticed that the more frustrated people get with the game, the worse they perform, which then raises the rage, creating a feedback loop of death.
We get so caught up in the technical bits of the game, and analyzing what we’re doing wrong, that a lot of us seem to forget why we play in the first place: because we have fun. If that’s not there any more, then you definitely need to take a step back and think about why you’re putting these hours in. Is it for some rank on a leaderboard? The chance of winning all that monies in a tournament? Or is it simply because you really love this game and want to see it played well by your hands?
Personally, I’ll take the last option. No point in playing the game if you aren’t having fun. It’s like the business philosophy of “happy workers are effective workers.” It applies here: if you’re having fun, you’ll play better.
Hey, thanks.
I’m just not sure I could have stomached any more of anyone telling this guy to just give up.
If he really likes the game, has a sincere interest in getting better, and is just getting frustrated with his progress, then telling him to STOP the process is the wrong way to go about it.
Rather he need only to simplify his approach and just play for fun, researching only to nail (insert X difficult combo or maneuver here) or to find like-minded folks to spar with.
I’m not great, by any stretch of the imagination. But a love for the game and the friends I’ve made over the years thanks to Capcom’s strong lineup of satisfying ways to get it handed to me, have kept me playing. Winning AND losing with a smile.
The last thing our community needs is to scare away fresh blood. Those are the guys who will determine if future games are made long after us old farts have left the sandbox.
Try blocking low
Do you have it for Xbox? I get trashed a lot too. I main Dudley, and I know it’s no easy path. I would like some positiv criticism and feedback. I feel with all these terms, footsies, option selects and frame data I just get overwhelmed.
you just gotta learn a strat that kills scrubs and you’ll feel so much better
first thing you do is figue out how to kill a scrub. usually involves letting them kill themselves by jumping in or botching execution or stuff like that. it’s really frustrating if you’re the type of guy who likes to hit lots of buttons (hitting buttons is fun) but once you force that patience into your matches you’ll start winning more (which is usually more fun)
i’m like 99% sure you’re playing by arbitrarily picking a combo you’re going to land and then trying at every opportunity to wedge it into the gameplay and not looking at the match as a whole (starting off going “i’m gonna hit him with cr jab cr jab cr hp machine gun upper” or something instead of just feeling it out). the best combo for the situation right now isn’t necessarily the best combo from ten seconds ago or five seconds from now, so don’t even worry about the complicated combos yet.
pick literally 3 ground combos to learn.
one is simple like poke xx max out and is totally safe.
one is a little more complicated and starts with a quick attack you can shove in their face when they’re close. something with a link will be good for you.
the last one is your big pain damage combo for when they whiff a DP or ultra or something. make sure it’s reliable, i’d rather do 270 damage reliably than 320 80% of the time and getting punished for missing it the other 20.
(if you have one, learn a combo out of overhead, they’re really good.)
while there are lots of other factors in the game the most important one is damage. you need to learn how to get damage at all while avoiding damage on yourself before you start worrying about even how much damage it is you’re doing, never mind things like how much stun you do or how much meter it builds or where your combo puts them on the screen.
Go to gatherings, seek out local players. Don’t get so frustrated, watch your own games. Post your games when you ask for advice. Being able to do combos or do some sweet mixup doesn’t matter worth shit, if you can’t set them up in the first place.
But most importantly make sure your having fun I really stopped playing SFIV and SSFIV for that matter because every time I play it its not alot of fun for me and I just get frustrated.
I would really try to go to gatherings and pick peoples brains on the game and what your doing wrong, who knows maybe they are playing another fighter there you could learn to like better.
see ya
Don’t have any fight games for xbox, sorry
Not even a cell phone cam or some sort of digital camera with a basic video function ? If really not, borrow one from your friends. If you already spent 1000+ hours on training and it’s not really working out, I believe an hour for capturing some of your videos is time well spent…
This is actually a response to post 27,28 and 29. I want to enjoy this game but I have to be actually decent to enjoy. I don’t mind any of my losses I rather lose so I can understand what i’m doing wrong so I can get better.It is discouraging however when I take the proper steps to be a better player and see ZERO progress and there is no fun in always losing.Thanks for actually wanting me to stay in the fighting scene.I’m surprised of the ratio of I’ll help or Here is my input comments compared to the dumbass quit or find another game comment. Thanks.
Very good advice. I’ll see what simplifying my game is gonna do. My biggest problem however comes from punishing mistakes. I use easy combos but sometimes they mess up,I can do them real easily but for some reason i’m not quick enough or I become braindead when the moment comes to preform them.Its not that i’m nervous I am actually very calm and never threw a hissy fit,Or flinged my pad/stick at a wall. The worse I do is complain about lag or “how did I lose to that spammer!” Don’t get me wrong spamming or not he did whatever it took to win.But I’m trying to learn how to play not spam.Its just a big pain when you have to bring you self down to the opponents level if they are being scrubby so you wont lose. Never seen this in any other serious fighting game.
I’m trying to hook up with Youtubers so I can get some matches on video.I’ll update this thread if anything.
Are you having fun at all? It certainly doesn’t sound like it. Why don’t you play another game?
Practice blocking for a few days, or however long is necessary for you to get a read on what people like to do. It may not win you a whole lot of matches initially, but if you spend enough time focusing on just defense, you’ll see patterns begin to emerge in the way most people attack. I truly believe that blocking is the best option in almost every unknown situation, and while this is crippling to me to some extent, it’s allowing me the opportunity to learn all of the various aspects of the game without handing rounds over to my opponent in the process. Here’s the blueprint for most of the Ryu and Kens of the world:
1.) Poke, waiting for the inevitable jump in.
2.) AA when they do so.
3.) If they don’t jump in or the situation doesn’t call for it, block low and watch them SRK.
4.) Walk up and throw.
5.) Rinse and repeat.
90%+ of the people you meet in ranked are just flat out not any good at the game, and while my win percentage isn’t above or at said mark, I can say that with an absolute certainty despite that.
Now, for better players you’re obviously going to need to work a little bit harder, but in the time you’re spending on focusing on blocking, you’ll start to notice their habits and attack patterns aswell, which will slowly lead you into the deeper aspects of the game. Bottom line though, if you’re getting hit with unsafe specials left and right, you’re simply not focusing enough on blocking, and if you put emphasis on that for just a few days, incorporating it as a natural part of your game from there on out will happen seamlessly.
Sorry if I’m repeating something already mentioned in this post, but I didn’t see anything like this and felt it needed to be said. Turtling up slows the game down, and for someone that’s trying to learn and develop in all aspects, the ability to do so without very much effort is a God send. Use it to your advantage.
alex, if you’re consistently dropping simple combos, then you haven’t practiced them enough, or lag is killing you.
go into training mode, and grind the combo until you can do it like 25 times in a row without mistakes or like a hundred times with 5 or less mistakes. just pick a high number and do the combo that many times. then set the dummy to cpu and a moderate to high difficulty and work on punishing the random ultras and whiffed DPs with it. if you’re able to nail the CPU with it consistently but drop it online then you’re just getting owned by lag