Av needs some work. At least you made your own.
Seriously Cable isnt overrated.
Cable is ranked #4 in the top 4.
That is THE perfect position for his ass.
Is Cable better then Storm Sent Magz? No.
Is Cable better then everyone else? Well… Yes.
The power of AHVB just cant be denied. It makes Cable stand a chance vs the big 3, and a pretty good one too.
Cable with AAA is still one of the hardest things to overcome in this game.
Strider, he isnt overrated or underrated.
He is an anomoly in MVC2. He is potentially the best character in the game.
But due to the limitations of mechanical and human error he isnt.
Under the Big Four should immediately follow Strider/Spiral.
Then imo Cyke.
After Cyke I dont think the list matters anymore.
Personally, I think Doom should be directly below the Big Four. Maybe putting Strider and Spiral above them is justified, but IMO they don’t win matches on their own. Doom with one meter is nothing to sneeze at, and Doom with two meters is downright scary.
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Why the hell does everyone consider Dhalism a anti-Storm/Mags person? If anything Cyclops is a MUCH better character than Dhalism. He can chip, build matter really fast, play a lil keep away, good assits etc etc… please I want to know why Dhalism is considered the silent killer of two of the Big 4. I have played against some pretty good Dhalism players and all they do is POKE and do some rushdown… or runaway.
Dhalism is a loser! If you want to kill Storm or Mags get learn how to play as Cyclops and [MASTER] Omega Red.
I have seen this guy totally DESTROY this MSP team using Omega Red… it was freaking beautiful and scary at the same time since he basically predicted what his opponent would do, unleash the coils, mash his life away then throw him.
:eek:
Sorry for the rant but here are other people that I think are underrated and overrated.
underrated :
Jin = his AAA is freaking powerful and invincible! You dont’ know how many times I laugh at those people that use Capcom AAA… it blows them away!
Omega Red = I really want to master him… his coils are evil!
Megaman = Despite that this guy is a annoying fucker… he is pretty good. Crappy assists IMO. 
Servbot = get some invincible AAA’s and a quick projectile assist… he could be your wosrt nightmare! 
Anakaris = He takes just as much damage as Strider… but I believe that Anakaris is a better character on his own than Strider. That unblockable throw and his Royal Curse can really piss off people… I would know. :evil:
Doom: He is more than just an assist! Anyone tried his other assist? The photon shot one? It’s not as quick as his AAA but it goes farther.
overrated:
Dhalism = the bastard takes above average damage and deals below average damage… yet he can defeat Magento and Storm. -twitches- sure…
Jill = wooo look at me air combo my fiery dash into a SUPER fiery dash… -.- yeah that’s all I can do. -throws zombies and dogs at you-
Spider-Man = people who used to own everyone with Spider-man for free in MvC1 think they can own everyone in MvC2? Let’s see you try! :lol:
Cammy = she is Magneto version 1.0 with bugs and crap. I have no trouble with her using my Rogue. Kiss, air combo, crouching HK, Good Night Sugah. 
Now I have a question for you people… why do you consider to Capcom to be overated? I think he is one of the best characters with one of the best AAA’s IMO. He has more options than Ken or Psylocke… supposedly one of the best AAA’s in the game. The only thing I can say that Capcom pales in comparsion to Cyclops since Cyclops is freaking awesome. A simple standing hkx2 XX Super Optic Blast does 55+ damage. But then again Cyke’s AAA is kinda crappy in terms of defense. It only does 16-18 damage if it gets all it’s hits but Capcom’s does a solid 22 points of damage.
Capcom is just below Ken’s AAA which is does 26 damage and Iron Man’s AAA which does 36 if all the hits connect.
So… why do you people think Capcom is considered overated?
Geez people… Omega Red is WAY OVERRATED!!!:bluu:
and if you agree with me… I pitty you
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I agree completely.
However, IMO, I still think Doom isnt all that. I’m not saying he isnt good, but hes just a bunch of small little tricks. He sorta plays like Cyke but more bulky and slow.
I dont think IM is overrated. Most people know that he isnt all about that infinite. He play style resembles Doom’s a bit, so its not all too bad.
I agree with you 100%
Flame if you will: Whats is Iron Mans Easiest infinate to pull off?
Extremely underated character would be Thanos. If very well played can be deadly. Same with Shuma
Overrated? Neto
I think that Akuma is underrated and maybe, Anakaris, and Thanos. Zangief and Hayato are also better than most people think.
People often put Hayato with the lowest of the bottom tiers but come on! You don’t have to keep using all of his laggy moves or to keep throwing out lotsa random supers because that is not the point of playing Hayato! Use his priority and range to start combos if you have a chance. Don’t forget that his normals can be canceled into specials or switch out. Crouching lp, cr.mp, cr.hk has insane range for a chain. Almost as good as dhalsim’s cr.lp, cr.mp, cr.hp but without the danger of the opponent hitting or countering your fists(including projectiles). Use less laggy normals when close up and please don’t cancel into qcf+p and say that Hayato sucks cause of the lag unless as a sudden counter.
Roll also have some good points. Her Rush Drill is slow but has an invincible start-up and invincibility throughout its duration. Her Hyper Roll can counter normal attacks and jump-ins. She is small, has a slide to make her even smaller and she is not THAT weak.
Use Roll's kicks instead of her punches. Her standing and crouching lk does 4 damage and her standing and crouching medium kicks does 7 which is **AS STRONG AS RYU AND EVEN STRONGER THAN MEGAMAN'S!** Her punches are weaker and also pushes the opponent more away than her kicks. Lp, mp, hp, fireball does not connect but lk, mk, hp, fireball does! NEVER USE HER AIR FIREBALL AS AN AC FINISHER. It only does a pathetic 5 damage minus the damage reduction. Use up+hk or throw instead. Her throw has good priority and damage. She got a double jump. Her jumping lk is fast, has decent range and priority, and can be used to catch the opponent. People say that her cr.hp is useless but I think that it could bo used to biuld some hyper meter because it has the exactly recovery time as her standing hp but she is crouching and does not move forward. You can also cancel into special, super, or switch out.
A good basic combo for Roll is jump-in with lk->mk->up+hk, land, dash-in deep, standing lk->mk->hp->fireball. You can make good use of her items too. She is not the best(duh)but there are ways to improve her usefulness!
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Thanos is right where he deserves to be. The programmers at Capcom must have gone to lunch right before they programmed in Thanos’ airthrow, and then forgot about it when they came back from the break because he sure as hell doesn’t have one. Anyone who gets a significant lead can beat him by jumping up to back. His Power XX Power XX Soul Combo isn’t all that bad, but how’s he going to land it? He’s a fatass with no mobility at all. Not to mention that also makes him a combo target.
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Unfortunately, Hayato and Roll have terrible assist and assist plays a HUGE role in MVC2.
Their DHComboability are also pretty lame although Hayato has EXCELLENT DHComboability out of his rushing sword super(qcf+pp). As an added bonus, it’s actually very easy for Hayato to combo into it(qcf+pp)making it a good way of ranking up damage from a combo.
Sorry, my bad. Hayato’s assists actually are pretty good. Of course, it doesn’t nearly match the invincibility and super setup of Cyclops gene slice, the protection and chip damage of Doctor Doom’s anti-air, or the glitched Juggernaut Punch that brings instant death on the other side of the screen. However, Hayato’s assists does lend a helping hand in the fast paced game of MVC2. His b+hp plasma combo starter also have very good startup, range, and recovery. If blocked, it is often safe to continue the chain for a few more hits as long as no assists gets into the way.
Personally I think Cyke is better then Doom as a character.
But the overall skill level of people using Cyke doesnt show it.
Really, I think American Cyke is pathetic. He has much more to offer then SJ.RH RH RH, double jump, RH RH.
His priority foot still has pretty damn good priority, it isnt god like it was in XSF, but it is still good.
He can fucking DOMINATE Sent, has a decent shot vs. Cable, and can impersonate Storm vs. Magz and run away.
He isnt too hot vs Storm tho, imo he gets FUCKED UP.
And thats without touching his fucking infinite.
If American players picked up on his infinite, I swear Cyke would be a SOLID #6.
In application however, I would tend to agree that Doom is near the top 4, but I would put him at number 8 or number 9.
There is way more expierience playing doom then Cyke.
Sure Strider and Spiral cant really kill anything by themselves.
But Strider and Spiral are starting characters, really they arent 1 on 1ing anything anyway.
And the potential domination that Strider and Spiral have just make them better.
Strider/Spiral can be 1 player games sometimes, with them just completely dominating a match.
And that can be said of the top 4 too, but really, I dont see Doom just up and dominating a match.
He is good, but I dont think he brings anything to the table that is a dominating force.
Not like the characters ranked over him.
How many characters die for free to Doom-B assist?
Ever tried landing near Doom? Not pretty is it? Ok, how bout we do this…
Doom/Sent/BH…
cr.lk, call Sent, cr.fierce, cancel into flight, ad/b, laser, cancel flight call BH, sj., and do whatever you want from there.
Doom doesn’t have too much trouble with Sent if he’s in unfly mode… it’s funny as hell when you make Sent block, then he tries to frying pan you, and you block, lol…
Doom can friggin completely lock-down Sent for at least 4 seconds with BH AAA once Sent is grounded, all you gotta do is fly a little low, start firing off a couple lasers to chip, and call BH AAA… once that’s all done, just keep him grounded with lasers, go to the ground, and start tri-jump, lk, cr.lk, rh, and then take off half of Sent’s lifebar from there.
IMO…
IM vs Sent is pretty hard to decide. Sent is a huge target, and if he’s not careful enough, he can just get killed in the first 5 secs of the match. IM just needs to pace the match a bit, then try and go for j.u/f fierce when Sent is in flight, and if it hits, auto-infinite, proton cannon.
BH vs Sent
Sent Stomps BH
BH vs Storm
Bh get’s raped… by either rushdown or run-away
BH vs Magz
Good god…
BH vs Strider
Don’t make me laugh
BH vs Cable
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BH vs Spiral
“Dancing Sword, ching ching ching ching, Dancing Sword!”
BH vs Cykes
“Mega Optic Blast!!!”
BH vs IM
…
BH vs Doom
Doom pwnz j00…
There BH has been defeated by almost every single top-tier there is… Doom kills BH with j.fierce, IM takes him out easy, and the rest I have explained…
Wow, you certainly told me why BH sucks :rolleyes: :lame:
You haven’t explained shit. I stopped listening around the time you said Doom owns Sentinel.
Aw yes, and the japanese once again proved to us how superior their Cyclops’ were at EVO, no? I didn’t think so…
So, people got to get off of the japanese’s nuts about Cyke. Infinite doesn’t make Cyke good. Meterbuilding, S/J/SJ.Roundhouse and MOB make him good. And please explain how he has a decent shot vs Cable and can run away from Mags.
You know, other than the fact that you seem to be a nipp-o-phile, the other hint that you don’t know what you’re talking about is when you said he looses to Storm. Actually, she’s pretty much the only solid top tier win he has. He does decent vs Sent, but IMO that match is too risky.
I’m not saying Doom ownz Sent, but I’m saying there’s more then just ghey throwing pink shit all around the place… Sent still has a major advantage in the long run, if he has either Capcomm AAA or any good assist, but Doom is still dangerous with just one meter…