MvCI Meta and Tier Discussion

Depends on where you are in the match and how good you are at movement.

Yea it depends. Still a free tag and mix up at the end for one bar.

What’s the problem? You need the opinions of just certain people to be certain?

May I remind you that champions like Justin Wong and Chris G were plain wrong in the Marvel 3 early meta about tiers.

Excellent players but they are still players just like you and me, who can analyze the pros and cons of characters.

Your opinion is that Sigma doesn’t belong at the very Top. Cool.

I believe he belongs there. He can control space and pace of the match extremely well with his long range normals and traps. His damage is Marvel 3 Hulk type damage and his laser super is a light version of Arthur’s Level 3 which is one if the best if not the best super with the AoE and tag situations.

Add all this and I don’t see how he isn’t anything but Top Tier. High Tier at minimum but his damage and control prowess, push him over the edge IMHO.

Question.

Is Thor Top 10? Top 15?

He is definitely much better in this game than Marvel 3 and has won tourneys here and there.

Is Thor a contender?

The running joke is he is banned from official tourneys because you never see him on stream. I think he’s extremely good though. I haven’t started ranking characters yet but I could see him in the top 15

Thor is good but again, his dirt is extremely limited. He can also be rushed down pretty easily. Good movement though,which is pretty important.

I think Thor is easily top 15 if not higher. His charged mighty strikes and air mighty sparks are very good tools that control space and allow easy hit confirms. With the right partner its easy to force someone into a very bad position with those moves alone.

Thor is really good. His limiting factor is his supers are trash.

I don’t need opinions from others to be certain however, it helps to have some evidence to support my argument. If Sigma is as strong as you claim people will flock towards him. People love to play top tiers. We haven’t seen this. If Sigma was some hard to play character with a high learning curve then it be understandable. He is pretty simple.

Is his damage that big? The cast seems to do around the same amount of damage no matter. Is he breaking 7k with one bar? Does he have a combo that leads to HSD? The sad truth about sigma combo vidoes is they all start with J.HP into st.HP. Some will do J.HP air dash J.HP j.HK and then be like huge Sigma damage. Or say sigma BnB and then end the combo in lvl 3. But yeah… If damage is normalized then the neutral is where a character needs to shine. He has big normals and specials that control a lot of space but it can be difficult controlling space with him.

The argument that people flock to Top Tiers in swarms isn’t necessarily true at all and there are plenty of examples in all FGs. (ST Dhalsim, KOF 99, 00 Jhun, SC1, 3 Astaroth, SC2, 3 Yoshimitsu, SC4 Hilde to name a few)

Popularity isn’t a reason to discard a character tools and their matchups against the cast which gives them their tier placement.

There are some things this game did with Thor that I don’t agree with. I miss being able to do Mighty Strike on the ground and Mighty Smash being his DP don’t feel right.

But they got rid of Mighty Thunder. Everything else is forgiven.

I love Abegen’s Thor in this.

Last Wednesday WNF winner used Thor/Raccoon as well.

Mighty Thunder was mighty useless

Is Spidey hype still alive ? :3

I think it died down when people realised that his tag set ups are aren’t as good as those of the top tiers.

I still think he’s good, but he probably needs to use his best stone (power?) and needs a partner who also maximises the same stone.

So Chris and Ryu are bottom tier, Zero Dante top and everyone else somewhere in mid and bottom mid?

Seems to be the consensus i notice

Ultron belongs with Zero/Dante. He might not be quiet as good, but he’s certainly better than those mid tiers

A tier to Zero/Dantes S?

I think Dante is solo S tier, with zero ultron dorm in A with Gamora bringing up the rear in A- for top 5