MvCI Meta and Tier Discussion

Megaman is still decent imo. His armour lasts pretty long and he can get 6k+ damage with 1 meter without it. His projectiles are good. Box dash is nice, etc. but he’s no Dorm.

Been dicking around with a Megaman/Sigma team for kicks.

Zero has to be top 3 in this game. He is one of the only characters in this game with good reversal options, and disrupt most setups and space stone surge. Even if you bait his reversal, you can’t really punish for it like in a normal DP in a fighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUpiXXyfdx8

Why can’t you punish his baited DP?

Because of Hyouretsuzan.

The hell is that?

ice stab

Zeros dp isnt invincible though iirc

It’s invincible from frames 1-4, active on frame 5. It’s gonna trade at worse.

It has a huge hitbox, and it’s a strong anti-air that you have to respect. Shoryu Wiki says Zero has a tiny window of Invincible Frames. Really what makes his DP so good is how active it is, and how it puts a wall. Edit: Sougenmu Shadows copies Zero’s DP too, so it’s not just the ice drop. It’s not just his special DP. His Tornado Super is ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9iBT0V9J1M
The hitbox covers the entire vertical screen, and puts Zero’s hurtbox at the top of the screen while it’s active. So you could tag cancel out of the Super, which protect your character and Zero from getting a happy birthday. Not only that but it has a vacuum effect, and so it’s a strong anti-air against people who super jump at the top of the screen.

yo, that zero was dirrrty. i’m loving it.

Whenever Zero comes in for a counter switch they will always do the DP. It will beat out almost everything. Cap players do the same thing with his DP.

It’s retarded that they gave the robo beast Zero a pseudo DP that’s invincible until first active frame and then also gave him a fully invincible level 1 that locks down into free mix ups. Zero top tier always confirmed.

Seems like they always give Zero that something extra to push him over the top.

He needs it :wink:

I disagree completely.

I think he is one of the Top 3 supports in the game and the Slicers, Boomerangs and Freeze Shots make him an excellent wall as well.

I think Megaman X is the most underrated character in the whole game at this point.

I think Thor is better than ms marvel , like seriously

That’s fine that you feel that way, but since you do… generally you need to back those claims up with some evidence of some kind and simply listing moves doesn’t really cut it.

What about those moves makes him good support/better than other supports?

You said he’s a decent wall so that’s cool, what does he do against thanos projectiles and projectile counter? What does he do to counter people reflecting his shit back at him? What does he do against people that teleport behind his wall?

What are some good wall patterns to use? Most of us probably haven’t seen a good mega man so these are questions that most people will be asking themselves when they hear that a character is pretty good.

I’m all for mega man being good, but I’m not seeing it because I haven’t seen it…

@Dime

Of course you haven’t seen it. He is not an easy character at all to pick up. He will take time to maximize.

Wait, till you start seeing more boomerang tag setups and those dirty Slicer/Freeze Balls angles shots for defense and High/Lows.

Megaman X reminds me of all the Zero talk in early Marvel 3 where peeps were starting to see his potential as Top Tier but didn’t believe it until like late Vanilla/early Ultimate.

Mind you, I don’t believe personally that Megaman is a Top Tier right now unlike Zero then, but he certainly ain’t a Low Tier or Lower Mid like many people are proclaiming.

Not easy to pickup, / = / Low Tier.

That’s all I’m saying.

So Zero can actually tripguard against up-back. Wonder how many other chars have lows with big enough hitboxes to override the lower body invul.