No more op then just them hitting you crossup anyway?
I mean powerstone is literally slower than what ultrons mixup options are to begin with.
I think he is talking about the storm. Canāt push block them to create space, so they can pretty much do whatever mix up they want
Pretty sure he meant Power Storm with tridash. No pushblock = lol Iām in your face forever.
I am not so scared of that!
mostly cause i keep on forgetting to pushblock so it doesnāt make a diff to me anyway.
So end of week 2, any updated tier lists? I donāt really know where to put zero or x anymore but I think people
havenāt really been playing either properly that Iām playing.
Arachnophobia Tier = Spiderman with Reality Stone + corresponding setup partner.
High Tier and below = The rest.
Sounds legit.
Everyone was gaga for captain marvel but then nobody wants to play her.
Champ was all like shes super top tier then immediately went back to ultron.
Thatās my meta and tier discussion statement!!!
Zero is probably top 5 at worst top 10. X id probably low tier.
Damn. Spidey has always been so underrated imo, itās good to have him back, canāt wait to play him and web zip all over the supers :^)
Just found stupid good setups with Arthur and strider off of mindstone:
Arthur:
Mindstone then
Jhk xx qcb lp (repeat 4 times) Land then instant overhead j.lp xx tag or cr.lk chain (the hitstun decay gets big enough to where the cr.lk and j.lp will both uncombo. This is a completely unseeable mixup)
I can also do cute shit with Arthur like doing the j.lp up then canceling into a delayed jhk that will crossup and tag that crossup, or do the j.hk early for a non crossup into tagā¦ this is also near unseeable when timed right.
Strider can mindstone then get gram loopsā¦ which are demoralizing cause they last so long.
LOL.
Also, Arthur upclose is a headacheā¦ the unseeable instant overhead mixed with the jhk overhead jump cancel overhead into a low.
Haha, to good.
Tried Arthur yesterday too and is j.HK overhead was weird. If you do it ASAP for instant overhead, CPU was able to block it while stay crouch. Had to delay the j.HK after the jump a little to be OH. I should try it on myself to check if it works that way on a human player.
People say that scaling on Mind Stone Surge is too much but they forgot it deals 1000 damage first and this damage is not part of the combo after. You can do easy 3000+ combo after so basically it is a 4000+ throw, not to bad.
Also, I have to study it further but seems like switching while in a combo reset the only one OTG / one wall bounce / one ground bounce rules as you can get a second ground bounce in the same combo when you switch just after the first one and relaunch.
If you instant j.hk with arthur it wonāt counter as an overhead, you can see it yourself it will hit as āhighā. You gotta wait a smidge to hit the button for it to count as OH.
Yeah in training mode it uncombos if you donāt hit the opponent ASAP, but it keeps the scaling and stuff anywaysā¦ weird. Arthurās instant jhk is a mid but if you time it just right itās a highā¦thereās not that big a difference between the mid and the high. An easier way to get the high is to do an instant double jump jhkā¦ done to fast it can still be mid but itās kinda hard to do it that fast.
Also, Arthurās instant jhk has a built in mixup if the opponent is locked down or doesnāt pushblockā¦ you can double jump cancel the first j.hk into another jhk and that one will ALWAYS be an overhead, or you can land and go low. So this makes Arthurās lockdown mixup pretty strong because you can just sit there doing the overhead stuff or not or go for the instant overhead j.lp which if you are in dantes million dollars or something will combo into the super.
Arthur isnāt easy but I think heās a force in this gameā¦ lots of tools.
I think strider might become a force as well, but his damage is pretty low and his neutral isnāt the greatest outside of teleports and stuff, still though he also has some strong tools.
Noticed something interesting today, Dante is a good example of visualising pre jump frames. You can instant air his hammer, but if you do it fast enough you can cancel it into lp guns. So essentially youāre doing guns in pre jump frames but youāre also doing hammer on the ground. I donāt know exactly how many but thereās possibly 5-10 pre jump frames, itās enough to see part of the hammer animation with the human eye.
Dante is currently the best character in the game.
Very good neutral, very damaging combo even without meter, can create huge set up for the other characters with Crazy Dance and Million Dollar. Instant OH or d.LK->Stinger, d.LK->d+HK mixup. Easy wall carry, etcā¦, etcā¦ He has everything except that Spidey 100% lol.
j.hp, s.hp, c.hp, sj.hp, ad/f.hp, jc.hp, qcf+hk, c.hp, sj.hp, ad/f.hp, jc.hp, qcf+ hp, qcb+hp, lp, ASā¦
Lol. Itās super basic bed and breakfast does like 60% and you get a ton of shit off of it. Iām not sure Iād call him best in the game just yet but Iād say Dante, Spider-Man, Captain Marvel and Dormammu are in the top 5. Captain Marvel has a projectile invulnerable armour that costs nothing, she doesnāt care about reality, super busted.
Dante is a character that by design will be top 10 minimum in every game just off design. He has too many moves to ever be worse than that. I knew he wouldnāt be worse than high mid tier at the least. He was top 10 in umvc3 despite people not realizing what he could do until midway through. Dante likely never leave that upper echelon of characters unless they put a hit out on him.
For me Dante is the best just because you can pair him with anyone, itās always a good choice.
Same goes for Ultron IMO but he is not as strong as Dante. Quiet Close though.
Spidey is definitely strong but he absolutely needs another character top set him up or he will have problem to get in against good zoning. Chun Li is quiet the same. I wanted to paired them but they both suffer from the same weakness.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JVxQF5e7tKM
Probably escapable still havenāt tested it but it could be wittled down to a single frame so pretty hard for people to AS if they canāt CS.