Fun Bags might be the first thing that some people think of when they hear SNK, but the rest of us know what the company is really capable of.
the people who like video games in general and a have a fondness some fighting games, and the fgc are two different things, and the former is *much LARGER *than the latter. tekken, street fighter, dead or alive, anime based fighters(naruto dbc, jo jo ect) and fighters like p4u based off of other products are the ones in the general knowledge stream gamers have, and mostly the first 3, it doesn’t seem fiscally responsible is what i am saying.
i also have issues with general laziness in how the kof’s are being made now* cough* the f*** are you still using pixels, animate yo’ sh** * coughs* and some other issues it does seem ready for this fight,
ryu has stepped up got him self some new clothes expanded his bag tricks , hanging out with some 3d cats expanded his game, while Mai still relishes in the 90’s , kof needs to take some think about some stuff and make some life style changes, buy some new clothes, maybe some animated clothes, maybe some 2 and half d clothes i dont know, make some engine choses change some things, make it more appealing, tell people about her self, get out there let people know its a viable fighting game instead of *not *street fighter
Kof13 was extremely solid. I’m confident SNK could deliver if they made a new Snk vs Capcom. Capcom is the one I’m afraid of making a new game.
When the fuck has Ryu’s design ever changed? Or Guiles? Or Cammy? Or any SF character? SNK has had more important chaarcter design changes than Capcom. Man XIII needs that Wild Wolf Terry back.
Huh. What. Are you calling SNK lazy for spending several years creating brand spanking new high resolution sprites that are marvelously animated?
I don’t think he’s aware of how taxing and challenging it is to make and animate sprites with any kind of quality.
If you have the engine, what KOF did is much more labor-intensive than what SF4 or marvel did.
That aside, I have this feeling that CvS3 would bomb terribly, and wouldn’t possibly justify its costs unless they did it on the cheap within an existing engine. (and hopfully did it better than the dreaded x)
my idea for this game would be to build on CVS2 and do a collab with SNK as opposed to two different games, call it Capcom X SNK. As much as I would love sprites as good as KOF13, it would be unrealistic so I think upscaling the current CVS2 sprites and then drawing over or asking someone like Arcsys to recreate them in HD would be a good place to go (without the funky anime faces of course).
The game would have both 6 buttons and 4 buttons with knockdown moves (HP + HK) found in KOF available on both button set ups. Strong punch on 4 buttons would either be directional inputs ala CVS1 or lp and hp with ex moves being done with an additional kick button.
If people think it will be like CvS2 2.0 then they better not enough ask for It I know it will be quite different from cvs2 anyways I would love it wanna see what type of stuff Capcom would add!
True, but the support from the FGC alone could certainly be enough to make a CvS3 game successful and fighting games are popular enough with the general gamer base to show there would be some sort of interest from that crowd as well. Put them together and hey, could have something big there, or not, you never know. There was certainly a sense of curiosity towards the SNK franchises when CvS2 came out and I’m sure it could happen again. That’s the way it was for me anyway; my only exposure to SNK fighting games prior to really playing CvS2 for the first time was Fatal Fury 1 & 2 and brief moments playing Samurai Shodown and KOF '96. My reaction to Orochi Iori was ‘hey who’s the crazy red haired dude? He’s cool’. But maybe I’m being too optimistic, I don’t know.
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Have you PLAYED 13 yet? :wtf: Game is EASILY one of the best in the whole series. Mechanic additions to the standard 3v3 formula are great, animation and artwork are awesome, story is a nice bonus and watching high level players go against each other are some of the hypest matches ever. If you want to talk lazy, check out KOF 2001. By the way, the rest of your argument presents yourself as valuing graphics over EVERYTHING else a game has to offer. Good luck establishing credibility with that statement.
That’s always what this forum wants though.
The DS4 speculation is almost entirely people wanting Vampire, almost exactly.
That’s how we roll, I guess.
cvs3 need to play like cvs2…maybe with MINOR changes at best. with different/more characters and proper balance(example: yuri should be doing same damage as sak). wish they’d announce the damn thing and get to work already. its been like 11 years.
they did all that a decade ago with ancient hardware and cant make another game like that with today’s advanced tech. I believe capcom is underestimating the market. they are thinking a game that plays like cvs2 may not sell as much as sf4 or something.
NOW its the time to make another fighting game. while the market is still hot. there are fresh new blood(sf4/marvel3 players) willing to try/learn any new fighting game.
Like how some MvC2 players expected MvC3 to play just like MvC2 and not an entirely different game.
when this happened
the clothing was an anology
i own it
i actually own quite a few king of fighters
i make fun of the sh…stuff i chose to bother myself with
and hold on
one of these things is not like the other one of these things still is a pixelated sprite and looks like crap, and this is just 2d fighters i’m not even getting into this
and if you wanna compare anime fighters
un ex-f***ing ceptable, no way a game sereries that been out since the 90’s cant do better than sprites that’s embarrassing, i own 3ds games that look better than that , we have an issue. and before you say graphics doesent matter
ahem video games is a interactive medium that is suppoused to draw you away from reality , if graphics didnt matter
mario still would look like
im not saying everything has to look like
but obviously that making the game look presentable shows a care you put into your game, thats one the first things you learn in game design your game can be functional as hell but if it looks like sh** no one is gonna play it, and thats just assets with a board game.
also you say the mechanics work great, ok where is the new crowd, where is the influx of pleyers street fighter had and as it , so does tekken, blazblue exploded, you wanna know why, its accessible to new people, they expand the fighting game fandom. i like kof 13 but i am not going sit here and bull sh** like it isnt hard for people to learn it, its EXTREMELY hard, and not in a good dark souls , ninja guiden way , bad hard like we neet to talk to the developer hard
and it does even have the advantage of looking pretty, its a game that looks crappy, hard to get into and is know for a super sexualized ninja girl, how is that appealing to anyone especially in this day an age of girls getting into gaming , and thats what this fighting game is known for, mai, when doa girls have on more clothes than you , we have an issue.
while i am not as big as fan of kof ,as i am for tekken ( i would have tekkens babies) but im not going to lie
it isnt that great , its kinda dissapointing , it needs to do better, i know it can.
hi I’m less than twenty years old both physically and mentally,
watch me present my skewed and limited opinion as absolute fact ,
even though i can’t recognize good aesthetics or animation , only 3d graphics and anime , i dont get how anybody could possibly say games like doa and ff13 look like hyper-polished turds
btw i probably dont actually play competitively so im not going to bring up netcode at all even though thats one of the largest factors in kof13 not doing as well as it could in the competitive fgc , also im gonna ignore how well it did in the us compared to the past , as well as the fact that the series is far more popular and recognizable in other 1st world countries , because i cant think past BIG NUMBARS.
Ignored. just…too stupid.
With combofiend working at capcom, we are one step closer to possibly having a cvs2 re-release.
You also forgot another SNK classic in that category:
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hey i am less than 20 years old and and i am artist, i know what good graphics and aesthetics are and Kof isnt because you know, im not stuck in the past. i do play fighting games competitively but i didn’t wanna bring the net code because i was being nice. its like talking about devil may cry 2 , we all knows it bad, why even bring that up in the argument.
see if you want to present an argument, go ahead , if your going to be a condescending douche , lets go , lets go. because it sounds like your mindlessly [S]sucking off [/S]bowing down to kof because good ascetics and animations
here is my counter argument
you see that, that’s graphic evolution, that’s evolving , that’s bettering yourself and changing your ascetics because your offered more tech
what you are describing is laziness and stagnation
and trust me , im not telling you to do this to king of fighters
but a good ol fashioned graphical update would be nice
because when Nintendo;s fighter on the effing wii
looks like this
and you look like this
thats and issue
also hyper polished turds huh ,
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its called being good at your job and thats a game series where the graphics are Consistent through cutscenes and things are constantly loading in a sandbox environment, yeah that has way more "horses needed " than a fighting game, there is NO excuse, have you seen blazblue it looks great so i;m not just going against the prospect of 2d.
my argument still stands
maybe we can talk like adults when you learn to mature, because right now your acting like man child, because someone is saying that thing that you like and has been around along time , might not be that good.
grow up