MvC3 SFIV KOFXIII producers mention CvS3! We want CvS2HD Online Edition and Capcom-vs-SNK-3 please!

[SF-Zero2]

Just have it set up like EO though…Arcade mode for purity and Console rebalance crazy color edit so I can’t see you on the rain stage mode.

[Nephinel]

Other than removing roll canceling, why is CvS2EO generally considered crappy compared to the original release?

Maybe it’s the Super Cancel ability P-Groove got (which P-Groove should have had in the first place IMO)
Or the fact that in A-Groove you can cancel an air attack into Custom Combo regardless of whether or not it actually connects.

EO-ISM? Who cares, no one uses EO-ISM.

[SNAAAAKE]

super cancel wasn’t in cvs2 because it made landing super little too easy. I dont think it should be in cvs2. I dont wanna eat a super just because I got hit by a random uppercut or some other normal.

and that a-groove “buff” was dumb too. do not want either.

[Mr.Unbrockable]

How about a CVS2 Online edition.

People would buy it then bitch about how much the online aspect sucks.

[Nephinel]

super cancel wasn’t in cvs2 because it made landing super little too easy. I dont think it should be in cvs2. I dont wanna eat a super just because I got hit by a random uppercut or some other normal.

Actually,
Super Combo Cancel and Cancel Any Move were extra system features for EX-Grooves in Groove Edit Mode
Capcom just added it to P-Groove in the EO version to make it more similar to the Street Fighter III system.

[Fly666monkey]

Actually,
Super Combo Cancel and Cancel Any Move were extra system features for EX-Grooves in Groove Edit Mode
Capcom just added it to P-Groove in the EO version to make it more similar to the Street Fighter III system.

Frankly, P-Grove, S-Grove, and N-Grove needed buffs. I’ve almost never seen them used in competitive play. That A Groove buff baffles me, since that groove was more than fine as is.

[HAV]

As somebody who plays the best P-Groove player in the world regularly… P-Groove doesn’t need any major buff. Faster meter build is all.

N-Groove needs ZERO buff. N-Groove is good as fuck. People were just lazy with it. N-Groove is #3 groove, IMO.

S-Groove… eh… fuck it. Let it rot.

CvS2 is perfect as it is.

[geadom]

N Groove bad? Bwahahaha
as HAV said, P-Groove only needs faster meter build.

But to rebalance the whole game… that is another thing (that will likely NEVER happen).
Im the only one that want this AS IT WAS, with good netcode added in?

[HAV]

Not at all.

I definitely don’t want some redone version of CvS2 ever. Give me the original, unchanged, with good netcode, and let that be that.

Any “rebalance” can be saved for CvS3… which I probably won’t play.

[Morgan_of_Gael]

CvS2 is fine as-is.

Frankly, P-Grove, S-Grove, and N-Grove needed buffs. I’ve almost never seen them used in competitive play.

N-Groove is pretty common. It certainly doesn’t need buffs.

Other than removing roll canceling, why is CvS2EO generally considered crappy compared to the original release?

Because it removed RCing.

Im the only one that want this AS IT WAS, with good netcode added in?

Exactly what I want.

[geadom]

Other than removing roll canceling, why is CvS2EO generally considered crappy compared to the original release?

Maybe it’s the Super Cancel ability P-Groove got (which P-Groove should have had in the first place IMO)
Or the fact that in A-Groove you can cancel an air attack into Custom Combo regardless of whether or not it actually connects.

EO-ISM? Who cares, no one uses EO-ISM.

From THE MAN himself:

CvS2 Frequently Asked Questions:

Q: There’s like 5 different platforms for CvS2. Are there any differences?
A: For obvious reasons, everything will be compared to the arcade version of the game.

Dreamcast: For all intents and purposes, arcade perfect. There have been some complaints about speed differences between the arcade and DC versions, but it’s an established fact that there IS no standard arcade speed. Different arcade cabinets all set on the default speed of 3 will have slight (sometimes major) speed differences for no apparent reason.

PlayStation 2: Pretty much identical to the DC version (and therefore, identical to the arcade), the PS2 version does sport slightly higher resolution. Nothing game-affecting, though.

EDIT: Yun has a really random game-crashing glitch: hit the opponent with a You Hou super, then immediately do the qcb+P palm move after. Game crashes for no apparent reason.

X-Box: Lots of differences here.
[LIST]
[]EO Mode: The Easy Operation Mode lets players do special moves and supers at the touch of a single button. Obviously aimed at beginners and mashers.
[]System: RCs are completely removed. Not sure if other glitches (OTG grab CCs, tech throw glitch, etc) were removed.
Grooves: S-Groove reportedly charges its gauge faster. P-Groove gets the (amazingly broken) ability to do super cancels. A-Groove can jump and whiff an air attack and still activate CC afterwards. They can also cancel most connected air attacks into CC as well.
[*]Characters: Sagat, Blanka and Cammy all get a 5% damage reduction across the board. Certain characters I can’t remember got a 5% damage boost, I think it was something like Dan, King, Kyosuke, Maki, Eagle, Gief, Yuri, and I think Zangief…? On a more specific level, the only real tweaks found were that A-Maki can no longer juggle a CC after her punch throw in the corner, the Kim infinite doesn’t work and Cammy bounces a lot higher on a blocked DP. Hibiki still can juggle a CC off of her kick throw for whatever reason though.
[/LIST]
And… that’s all I can remember at the moment. There are certain false rumors being spread around by XBox lovers, like the top tier characters’ moves having less priority and Sak/Bison’s CCs doing less damage. Don’t believe them.

Gamecube: I don’t know exactly for sure, but it should be exactly the same as the XBox version. I’ve heard random rumors about stuff like Sagat not being able to buffer supers off of his low fierce, haven’t had a chance to check them though. EDIT: this has been confirmed to be true.

You should also remember that the game was played at arcades (what was that again?) too. So for competitive and tournament convenience, EO wasnt good.

[VDO]

why harder to build meter? faster pgroove meter would make more sense. cvs2 matches are already slow as is. all the meter building fine. p needs a little boost and sgroove needs more damage.

I posted all this many times before. if they ever make it for next gen consoles, it should have 2 modes. the original version with rc and everything faithful the original cvs2 for the fanboys and elitists. and the other balanced version with various tweaks to even things out for every grooves and characters. sak/bison shouldn’t be doing like 75% damage from CCs. thats just one random example.

I would NOT fuck with any of the actual gameplay and hit boxes tho. its already gadlike and perfect. I am only talking about damage output/intake and meter building.

Hey yo that’s actually a good point lol! A-Groove on the real needs to be nerfed or whatever muthafuckas are callin it today when they tone it down some! The was just ridiculous the concept of 2 level 1 supers making a level 3!! That isn’t even simple arithmetic! If that’s the case they should have 2 super bars as long as the full level 3 bar! It would make better since that way…

[SF-Zero2]

After seeing how nicely Iron Galaxy handled the MVC Origins, they get my vote for a Capcom Vs. SNK Millennium Match 2 pack or whatever. They improved stuff alot over 3SO

[geadom]

How WE can voice to Capcom USA that we want an online enabled version of CvS2? Done by Iron Galaxy, of course.

Dev: Arent you a mod at capcommunity? Whan could be done?

[SNAAAAKE]

its not that WE aren’t doing enough or some random BS like that. the fact is SNK don’t wanna deal with capcom again even though they are not doing any actual work. they dont wanna give capcom the license to work with SNK anything now.

this is fucking tragic considering how “swag” cvs2 actually is. first time I saw hibiki I nearly shat my pants. me and my brothers were like “OW SNAP! :eek: isnt that that girl from last blade!”

[HAV]

I don’t think it’s that simple. Both sides are on some bullshit… and if there’s anything this PS3 CvS2 situation should have taught us, it’s that Capcom USA is a joke, and kinda worthless. Begging them isn’t gonna do anything. They seem to have only slightly more say in what goes on than we do as fans…

[rayplay]

Out of curiosity, how much would money would SNK likely even get from CvS2 online? IIRC, the company that made the game gets the profit, so it’s not like Capcom got a lot of money from SvC and SNK didn’t really get anything from CvS2. So I’d figure that SNK would basically be saying “Hey gaiz, throw Capcom your money while we basically get a small check from it!”. Which is actually a reason why I’d think they’d probably rather be interested in just making another vs game between the two since they could work on it or make new business deals. Just a random thought.

[geadom]

My biggest fear is that the gem called CvS2 is going to get ported to usa psn as the same shitty japanese version… killing all the chances to play the goddam game again. A waste, really, CvS2 was the last fun capcom game.

[Violent_Ryo]

its not that WE aren’t doing enough or some random BS like that. the fact is SNK don’t wanna deal with capcom again even though they are not doing any actual work. they dont wanna give capcom the license to work with SNK anything now.

What are you talking about dude? Where r u getting this ?

Check my last posts or the first page, SNK is on the record 3 times now in the past year that they are ready and willing to work on another crossover game(s) with Capcom.

[SNAAAAKE]

no you are mistaken

snk is the problem here