MvC3 Balance Tweaks Take 2: X Factor Harder

[Exalted-1]

This is because XF is currently not used the way capcom expected(at least that’s what it looks like to me). In a 3vs1 setting, it makes a lotta sense to get a speed boost as a comeback factor as otherwise, it would be literally impossible to catch up and open up people chilling in the back protected by assists while you got nuthin.

Obviously, when you use XF like a free damage boost, then you start thinking the speed boost doesn’t make much sense.

The best fix IMO would be to swap XF 1 and 2 with 2 and 3 and only allow XF2 and 3.

Who cares if you can’t win a 3v1 without X-Factor? It starts 3v3 and I thought the idea was to kill off the other guys characters. Why should he get to press four buttons and get to even it up by different standards?With X-Factor certain character get WAY too much more than other characters.Teleporters should not get speed boosts and beams should not do 900k or whatever the fuck Akumas beam does. I can’t tell you how many times I have been ahead just to have the other guy pop lvl 3 and kill my last two characters before they even hit the ground.

[New_Era_Outlaw]

Funny thing about this thread is that X Factor got buffed. You can do it in the air in Ultimate.

[candeisis]

Hey something i think should be removed from mvc3 is xfc out of block stun. Its much too strong in mvc3, it leads into a death combo and often wins you the game, only because one player tried to be offensive and attack. Sure holding your own XF counters this strategy, but it is simply so damn good do you really want the meta game to revolve around who has guard cancelled first. XF is strong enough as it is and there are other ways to land grab supers in this game, i hope they get rid of it entirely.

Last char vs last char, both have xf, its often who xfc’s out of block stun first (ie when the opponent cant coutner xf eg jump attacks, which will be diff cause of air xf in umvc3 at least …still its lame)

[DefenseX-Factor]

X-Factor is not only boring and way too strong, but it also extremely favors the fastest mixup characters the game has to offer. Catering to one subset of the high-low mixup character is probably one of the worst parts of X-Factor and makes chars from franchises that aren’t built around that system to fail badly. If you’re going to introduce new systems to your fighting games you have to make sure every character can take advantage of it reasonably well OR that you give the characters who can’t enough options to defend against it. X-Factor fails in every way.

That would require you having intense control of the match… lol

At this point I have heard a lot of interesting ideas to balance X-Factor, but the only one that I have heard was interesting was splitting it up into different powerups. We’ll see what they do with Super MvC3.

Hi there NYO, I’d like to ask you where you found the source that say they might be splitting it up into different power Ups I have posted a thread up but somehow got locked idk why maybe because this one had already existed, thanks

[_Insert_Name_Here]

Hi there NYO, I’d like to ask you where you found the source that say they might be splitting it up into different power Ups I have posted a thread up but somehow got locked idk why maybe because this one had already existed, thanks

He was talking about an idea he heard, not something Capcom said.

[notsoy]

X-Factor also lasts for a shorter time, does not reset damage scaling upon activation during a combo, and gives standardized boosts (no longer character-specific) that are weaker across the board.

Fun idea - Wolvie’s Berserker Slash still has its invincibility, but never crosses up. :l: and :h: versions still cross up, but have no invulnerability to compensate.

Also, reduce frame advantage on his dive kick. And on Dante’s Hammer too (+20 on block wtf).

[rogueyoshi]

whats up with the complaining about hammer and j.S… hammer is only +20 if you do it at the absolute lowest point from the ground. i think that they should probably add a few more landing recovery frames to make it easier to whiff punish though. and as for j.S, its pretty fucking horrible on whiff or block. it having a decent hitbox is just logical compensation for that.

[notsoy]

Yeah, the j.S whining is silly. And why is it surprising that j.S has a crazy hitbox when all of Dante’s normals have a crazy hitbox?

(+20 on block) - (time til landing) is still pretty safe in most non-combo situations where you would use Hammer, though. A move THAT safe with THAT much invincibility? Something’s gotta give, even if only a little bit.