He does, he is one of the only characters in the game that has a unscaled damage special move (web throw). He gets 150k every time he manages to land that move in a combo.
Spider-man can do meter-less 800k damage combo’s with web throw tricks using Doom OTG (that’s the easiest execution option). If you can do the SJC maximum spider you can easily make that 900k+ before DHC.
I honestly think Spidey is a really good character. He’s just not that great at opening people up but he has good pokes, decent high lows with web swing high’s to lows as well as for 900k health he’s a difficult character to hit with his web swings and zips.
Spideys option of just doing a combo into an OTG assist web ball air rest to ultimate web throw can kill like almost any character…
That’s actually a terrible team. No answer to keepaway and saving XFC and meters neuters Wolverine.
Spidey can do 1.1 mill damage with doom missiles and shuma mystic ray and without using meter.
compare spiderman to the majority. Those high damaging combos do take more work in comparison to guys such as Wolvie, Sent, Zero, X-23, etc… Spiderman really needs a specific type of assist (OTG assists) to make things easier for him, with out an OTG assist, he needs to work extra hard to wrack up a good magic series. Him being below the rest doesn’t mean he is too weak, he just lacks allot of valuable assets. He lacks.
Sentinel is rightfully in the Class S tier list. That guy is in the majority of teams used in majors and it’s because he provides that no-brainier come back. I do understand why people view Wolvie as #1, i myself have thought the same when this game was released (actually even before, since Wolvie has always been the top of the series except for MVC2).
Unless you struggle doing half circle motions then spidey combos aren’t hard at all. Mark my words people will be complaining about the unscaled damage on webthrow in the future.
Care to back that up with some evidence? I can think of at least 5 characters I’ve seen on streams more than Sentinel lately.
you can watch WNF, ever since the beginning. Sentinel has been a very constant team member. The quantity has decreased, but regardless of that he’s still one of the most reliable characters t use against real tough situations.
So, no, was the answer to my question.
That, and, HALF of the Sentinel’s remaining in the CEO and Revelations singles tournaments are not anchors, so your read on why people are using him is probably crap.
Plus, nothing from before the nerf really counts.
In any case, frequency of use is a terrible way of judging character strength. It’s biased in all of the ways that character choices are biased, most of which aren’t actually character strength. For example, it undervalues high-execution characters, like Viper, who is really strong.
the cast is balanced. It would be hard to draw out a tier list because each of them have a place where they excel. So frequency adds on, the reason they are seen the most in tourneys is because of the offering they bring. Sentinel is still dominantly used worldwide, anchor or not. I’m not just talking about the pre-nerf also, if you actually read carefully, it says “ever since”… therefore the time adds from the past to present. He can bring come backs very easily, that never changed.
If you look carefully, the majority of the Class S have significance at both point and at back.
Sentinel only brings easy comebacks against people who can’t block. Do you know what other characters can do that? All of them. And certainly looking at this weekends results at CEO and Revelations (both teams and singles) I would say ‘dominantly used’ would be more than a slight overstatement. The only reasons that Sentinel still sees play IMO is due to X-Factor and being generally piss easy to play. That’s not a top 5 character. Hell, that might not even be a top 10 character.
I lasted one page in this thread before finding stupidity, again
Yeah, what I am telling you is that it doesn’t actually imply anything about the strength of the characters.
For one, we know that people do not just pick the characters they think are the strongest. Even if they did, they can and often are wrong, because that perception isn’t necessarily based on anything credible. So there isn’t actually any reason to think that popularity is really indicative of character strength, anywhere, ever.
And, being not absolute shit as an anchor like Tron and Haggar is not the same as “very easy comebacks.” That stopped being true as soon as people figured out the matchup.
So it is of particular interest that virtually nobody puts Sentinel in front. He’s no less of an assist character than Akuma.
The only reasons that Sentinel still sees play IMO is due to X-Factor and being generally piss easy to play.
that just underlines my point in concerns of “come back”. What should make a top 5 character? Other than a high and simplicity team killing character? How many matches are there where only one single - mildly health- sentinel was the last guy there and managed to kill the next 3 characters of just a few moves?
People put sentinel on front as a come back character. He’s not used first on teams, because that is strategically a risk. Because if so ever the time comes that the player is in trouble, sentinel will come out as an attempt of resolving.
But since the entire cast IS BALANCED, then popularity and tournament presence is an** add on** if you want a Numbered tier list. Please start reading and comprehending carefully before you try to argue aggressively. if you’re saying that we can not judge the tier list based on popularity, then we’re judging on strengths only, and well everyone in the cast has a specific pro and con on them. We now look at tournament standings, performances and these are the top 10 i’ve seen successful on the majority of teams in this games history. So it’s their standings, and actual strengths written that draws this tier list.
Sentinel is with out a doubt part of the top 10, saying he’s not is only made by a bunch of kids trying to make themselves look hard.
The selectivity which you applied to what I said rivals that of politicians and lawyers (sorry UltraDavid). Benefiting from a broken, slippery slope comeback mechanic and being easy to play =/= good.
You seem to be confusing what Sentinel is capable of (i.e. a good assist, a decent point character when backed up w/assists and a scrub crusher) with what X-Factor is capable of. I also hope you realize that you can replace ‘Marn’ and ‘Sentinel’ with almost any decent player and any common anchor except Tron and it would be pretty much the same thing. X-factor is the problem here, not what character is rocking out on it.
I don’t think popularity has that much to do with the tier lists. That’s like saying that Justin Bieber is the best musician at the moment, because he’s the most popular.
I think Sent’s drones are certainly one of the best assists in the game, but I don’t think Sentinel is a very good character, regardless of how many people use him. He blows up people who don’t know how to hold back on their fightstick. You rarely see the more established players falling for his tricks, and most of the better players turn him into scrap metal thanks to his massive hitbox.
I’m sure that Sentinel is a Top 5 character in online- and lower-level play. When I first started playing this game, Sentinel was the bane of my existence. Now I’m more worried about Wolverine and Phoenix.
Oh really? Prove it, smart guy.
You’re seriously contending that your tier list is *not a tier list at all, *which, one, is totally retarded, and, two, makes this statement even more confusing:
If the cast is balanced, in what sense is top 10 even a meaningful distinction?
XF3 Sentinel is a joke when you realize that up back nullifies his offence.